Weihrauch17 Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 So this week we have had Raynor wanting to enpower the Unions, Starmer wanting to take numbers of Migrants to be determined by the EU and now this from the horror Lammy : https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/16/labour-wants-new-eu-links-in-a-reset-of-british-foreign-policy They must have lost millions and millions of votes in a single week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty J Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: So this week we have had Raynor wanting to enpower the Unions, Starmer wanting to take numbers of Migrants to be determined by the EU and now this from the horror Lammy : https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/16/labour-wants-new-eu-links-in-a-reset-of-british-foreign-policy They must have lost millions and millions of votes in a single week. I bloody hope so, the Tories are bad enough !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 Marty J . how old.are you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Marty J said: I bloody hope so, the Tories are bad enough !!! OMG you probably don't remember how bad Labour were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, snow white said: Marty J . how old.are you Not old enough 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 16, 2023 Report Share Posted September 16, 2023 substitute the word policy for Lie...............same for all the parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Hello, has there ever been a decent Labour party 🤔 and come to think of it any Tory party, 🤔 since the end of WW2 the old slogan, we want to make this country good again 🤔, we've heard it all before like a stuck record that Is why people are fed up with politics most the younger generation who do not bother to vote as they cannot see there is any future, looking at the state of this country now who can blame them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 hours ago, snow white said: Marty J . how old.are you He could be in his twenties and not remember the Labour Party which means the Tories have been in that long and look at the 💩 we are in it makes no difference who is in powr they are all useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, has there ever been a decent Labour party 🤔 and come to think of it any Tory party, 🤔 since the end of WW2 the old slogan, we want to make this country good again 🤔, we've heard it all before like a stuck record that Is why people are fed up with politics most the younger generation who do not bother to vote as they cannot see there is any future, looking at the state of this country now who can blame them, Totally agree with you............ as ive said before ...we all know what the solution is...............a total reset...read into that what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, ditchman said: Totally agree with you............ as ive said before ...we all know what the solution is...............a total reset...read into that what you want 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Rim Fire said: it makes no difference who is in powr they are all useless This ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty J Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 16 hours ago, snow white said: Marty J . how old.are you 67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Marty J said: 67 And you don’t think Labour can do a worse job 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty J Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 I think I've been misunderstood, I meant that I hope Liebor have lost millions of votes this week and that as bad as the Tories are Starmers gang are worse. I can remember the disasterous Wilson government, the power cuts and three day weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Marty J said: I think I've been misunderstood, I meant that I hope Liebor have lost millions of votes this week and that as bad as the Tories are Starmers gang are worse. I can remember the disasterous Wilson government, the power cuts and three day weeks. and Starmer doesn't even have people alongside him with the calibre of Healey, Jenkins, Castle or Crosland. How can anyone think that the Starmer gang would do anything other than muck it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 I’m hoping for a very small majority for either side, then they can’t do anything 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 You can say what you like about anyone or anything until they have tried it's all speculation its no good saying what the past has done as it's not the past that will be trying this time. i've no doubt they will :@~{ it up but until they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: So this week we have had Raynor wanting to enpower the Unions, Starmer wanting to take numbers of Migrants to be determined by the EU and now this from the horror Lammy : https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/16/labour-wants-new-eu-links-in-a-reset-of-british-foreign-policy They must have lost millions and millions of votes in a single week. Unfortunately, they won’t have lost many at all. Bookies have Labour as almost certain to win the next election. It would take some form of huge scandal to change that at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Genghis said: Unfortunately, they won’t have lost many at all. Bookies have Labour as almost certain to win the next election. It would take some form of huge scandal to change that at this stage. At some point people decide that things can't be worse with the other party, because there are only really two to vote for in England, everyone's bills and cost of living has gone up and up so Starmer saying things will be better sounds good. The SNP have done nothing in Scotland, Labour have done nothing in Wales and if Labour get in in England they'll do nothing, nothing good at least, but folk will fancy a change and then reap what they sow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, amateur said: Starmer doesn't even have people alongside him with the calibre of Healey, Jenkins, Castle or Crosland. Thank God! It was Healey who cancelled the TSR-2 airplane and so effectively destroyed the British fighter aircraft industry as an independent industry and Jenkins who, to divert attention from that Labour had abolished the death penalty (so Harry Roberts didn't hang for the murder of PCs Wombwell, Head and Fox) who introduced licensing of shotguns. So me I'm damn glad Starmer has neither Healey (who taxed my late father at 19s 6d in the £1 so 97.50% tax) nor Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Quote I can remember the disasterous Wilson government, the power cuts and three day weeks. The three day week was Ted Heath - Tories, not labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, has there ever been a decent Labour party 🤔 and come to think of it any Tory party, 🤔 since the end of WW2 the old slogan, we want to make this country good again 🤔, we've heard it all before like a stuck record that Is why people are fed up with politics most the younger generation who do not bother to vote as they cannot see there is any future, looking at the state of this country now who can blame them, Of course and it's still going strong. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/17/tony-blair-institute-rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Thank God! It was Healey who cancelled the TSR-2 airplane and so effectively destroyed the British fighter aircraft industry as an independent industry and Jenkins who, to divert attention from that Labour had abolished the death penalty (so Harry Roberts didn't hang for the murder of PCs Wombwell, Head and Fox) who introduced licensing of shotguns. So me I'm damn glad Starmer has neither Healey (who taxed my late father at 19s 6d in the £1 so 97.50% tax) nor Jenkins. My point exactly. Those who were regarded, at the time, as being first class, mucked up. How can we realistically believe that second-rate Starmer's motley crew will perform better? 20 minutes ago, Gordon R said: The three day week was Ted Heath - Tories, not labour. Brought about by the Marxist-led miners union shutting down of power stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 16/09/2023 at 20:29, Weihrauch17 said: So this week we have had Raynor wanting to enpower the Unions, Starmer wanting to take numbers of Migrants to be determined by the EU and now this from the horror Lammy : https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/16/labour-wants-new-eu-links-in-a-reset-of-british-foreign-policy They must have lost millions and millions of votes in a single week. I sincerely doubt that, thinking people have given in knowing whatever happens we are sunk?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) On 17/09/2023 at 16:33, Gordon R said: The three day week was Ted Heath - Tories, not labour. I remember it very well, you could think heath used this to go against the miners when millions of people got laid of work and sat at home in the dark 🤔🙄 Edited September 18, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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