Penelope Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Islamic State have laid claim to a terrorist attack at a concert hall in Moscow. Over 60 killed and 145 injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Russia has never had an easy relationship with Muslims viz the two relatively recent Chechen Wars. I saw an interesting quote on the internet this morning which read..... 'It's not so much who is responsible for this attack but who Russia chooses to blame for it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 52 minutes ago, JDog said: It's not so much who is responsible for this attack but who Russia chooses to blame for it'. And follow that with how they react... World is going to poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 It will be most interesting to see just what Old Vlad does in response to this massacre.......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Ukraine since week before elections was attacking Belgorod region of Russia putting troops into Russia across the Border. Last terrorists were killed\captured 200 miles Southwest of Moscow heading for Ukrainian border. If Ukies did slip the team in during the attacks on Russia prior to last Sunday's election, Russia is going to take the gloves off just like they did in Chechnya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 23 Author Report Share Posted March 23 35 minutes ago, Stonepark said: Ukraine since week before elections was attacking Belgorod region of Russia putting troops into Russia across the Border. Last terrorists were killed\captured 200 miles Southwest of Moscow heading for Ukrainian border. If Ukies did slip the team in during the attacks on Russia prior to last Sunday's election, Russia is going to take the gloves off just like they did in Chechnya. My understanding is that ISIS have claimed it, not the Ukies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) So far, death toll is 93 and four people have apparently been arrested directly involved in the attack and 7 more. So 11 arrests in total. Edited March 23 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: So far, death toll is 93 and four people have apparently been arrested directly involved in the attack and 7 more. So 11 arrests in total. It's Russia, who they arrest and who is responsible may not be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has issued a statement claiming that the terrorists involved in the Moscow Crocus City attack were planning to cross the border with Ukraine, and that they had "contacts" on the Ukrainian side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 20 minutes ago, old'un said: Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has issued a statement claiming that the terrorists involved in the Moscow Crocus City attack were planning to cross the border with Ukraine, and that they had "contacts" on the Ukrainian side. Easy way to blame Ukraine and go even more full bore on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, old'un said: Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has issued a statement claiming that the terrorists involved in the Moscow Crocus City attack were planning to cross the border with Ukraine, and that they had "contacts" on the Ukrainian side. No surprise there then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Death toll well over a hundred. Isis claim statement debunked but still looks to be them. Some of the perps caught. One interrogated at road side with boot on neck. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) You are all behind the curve on this one. It doesn't matter who did the job or who gets blamed or whether putin don't like it. The point is that a group has done it without putins men doing anything about it. They just walked in and did the deed. Now I hear that the Muricans were warning about this last week so how did the system overlook this one. Does it mean that other PEOPLE / GROUPS can just wander into anywhere... train stations. Public areas such as markets, train stations or factories or military establishments and do a lot of damage. Can't cover everywhere. Look what happened in the troubles. Watch this space. Putins men are already stretched?, using prisoners and men from other sources. Edited March 23 by Minky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, Minky said: You are all behind the curve on this one. It doesn't matter who did the job or who gets blamed or whether putin don't like it. The point is that a group has done it without putins men doing anything about it. They just walked in and did the deed. Now I hear that the Muricans were warning about this last week so how did the system overlook this one. Does it mean that other PEOPLE / GROUPS can just wander into anywhere... train stations. Public areas such as markets, train stations or factories or military establishments and do a lot of damage. Can't cover everywhere. Look what happened in the troubles. Watch this space. Putins men are already stretched?, using prisoners and men from other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Looks like they have them all now. One minus an ear that he has been forced to eat but otherwise looks intact. Putin talks of window to Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, oowee said: Putin talks of window to Ukraine. And we all know what happens to dissenters if they go close to open windows in Russia. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Minky said: You are all behind the curve on this one. It doesn't matter who did the job or who gets blamed or whether putin don't like it. The point is that a group has done it without putins men doing anything about it. They just walked in and did the deed. Now I hear that the Muricans were warning about this last week so how did the system overlook this one. Does it mean that other PEOPLE / GROUPS can just wander into anywhere... train stations. Public areas such as markets, train stations or factories or military establishments and do a lot of damage. Can't cover everywhere. Look what happened in the troubles. Watch this space. Putins men are already stretched?, using prisoners and men from other sources. You make a very good point - whatever the FSB are watching, it wasn't ISIS cells - more likely those individuals who might have posed a threat to Putin's chance of being re-elected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, old'un said: What is this emoji. It is so small that I can't make out what it is. Edited March 23 by Minky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Minky said: You are all behind the curve on this one. It doesn't matter who did the job or who gets blamed or whether putin don't like it. The point is that a group has done it without putins men doing anything about it. They just walked in and did the deed. Now I hear that the Muricans were warning about this last week so how did the system overlook this one. Does it mean that other PEOPLE / GROUPS can just wander into anywhere... train stations. Public areas such as markets, train stations or factories or military establishments and do a lot of damage. Can't cover everywhere. Look what happened in the troubles. Watch this space. Putins men are already stretched?, using prisoners and men from other sources. What makes you think that all PW members who posted on this topic are 'all behind the curve ball?' Surely it is obvious even to thickos like me that the Russian security services were caught unawares even though they had been warned about a likely attack. Condesension is not an appealing trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Where is there any condescension in my post. The overriding point that I was making was that it is a case of bolting the stable door after the deed had been done. Putin can blame the man in the moon but it was all to late. Whoever attacked the venue, they just walked in. There was no security at all. Americans warned putin about this but putin just like Stalin did, he rejected the warning as propaganda saying that America was stiring the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Quote Where is there any condescension in my post. I think this is the phrase:- "You are all behind the curve on this one." It says that you and you alone can see the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 10 hours ago, Gordon R said: I think this is the phrase:- "You are all behind the curve on this one." It says that you and you alone can see the big picture. Well done Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 22 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Easy way to blame Ukraine and go even more full bore on them. Hello, i agree, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Stands to reason their getaway route would lead to Ukraine as thats the nearest border, and its mostly anti russian too so is less likely to return them if caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Would it not make more sense for them to head south east towards Kazakhstan where there would be a largely Sunni Muslim population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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