old'un Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 5 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Perhaps something to ponder is, is the U.K. knife crime “culture” a result of race or social class, lacking opportunity, disillusionment etc.? I suspect there’s a tendency to reflect on the machete / knife culture we see in Africa and project that here as “their” culture. But again is it a result of culture or class, I think if you look into it you’ll see that the middle and upper classes in African countries aren’t going around stabbing and chopping one another up, it’s the work of their lower social classes (just like here). Something else to ponder on….1964 to 1969 when I was a teenager some of the lads who hung around with us were black, mostly Jamaican, I remember they were always the first to turn to violence be it fists or as I witnessed on a few occasions a knife and these black lads were not from poor families. 3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: An awful lot of protests going on around the country, perhaps the strength of feeling might even be noticed by those in charge and possibly they might start to deal with it all. Liverpool, Leeds, Hull, Nottingham, Stoke on Trent and Manchester. Nothing on the news, any links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/aug/03/sunderland-riot-police-southport-stabbings-protests-far-right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 And the Home Secretary says Asked what the government can do to stop the disorder, she says the police need to take the lead on operations where there has been violence, disorder and thuggery. But the government will provide its full backing in making sure those responsible face the law, she says. Some suspects have already been arrested and are in custody, with more arrests expected, she says. People have "the right to feel safe", Cooper adds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: An awful lot of protests going on around the country, perhaps the strength of feeling might even be noticed by those in charge and possibly they might start to deal with it all. Liverpool, Leeds, Hull, Nottingham, Stoke on Trent and Manchester. It smacks of the 2011 riots that happened across the country, dry hot weather, tension running high, Gov will be hoping for some rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 What would happen if these people had there protest or what ever you call it and there was no police presence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, johnphilip said: What would happen if these people had there protest or what ever you call it and there was no police presence? Quite possibly no trouble or a mosque burned to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 15 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Quite possibly no trouble Not now the hard left storm troopers are getting involved in "counter demos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Not now the hard left storm troopers are getting involved in "counter demos" Agreed - its counter demo's that usually escalate to try and out protest the rivals. Not yet seen any news but I've been told Leicester is one of the protest cities. Edited August 3 by Dave-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 some ex labour nit-wit is calling for a nationwide curfew........muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 A list of action cities is posted at the end of this: https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/08/02/a-weekend-of-unrest-dozens-of-protests-planned-in-the-wake-of-southport/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEbVohleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfoPOQSY8aGraCDJTWai96blrAZikCNH7njpUnU_g9MnDmCbBUR76IrKaQ_aem_mY3vsHw1Lksv1sNsu-P1Eg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Don't know how true this is , but reported the PM has gone on holiday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, johnphilip said: What would happen if these people had there protest or what ever you call it and there was no police presence? It would probably look like this! 15 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Don't know how true this is , but reported the PM has gone on holiday . So Angela is in charge 😳😳 Can't believe he's gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 6 hours ago, Flashman said: They were all before the mass illegal migration that is being discussed. Really, when was Plymouth? Letby?.... Give yourself a shake! 8 hours ago, Dave-G said: BUT they aren't the one's getting special allowances, tolerance and cover-ups by authorities and MSM. You too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, henry d said: Really, when was Plymouth? Letby?.... Give yourself a shake! You too Your ethnic mates have killed more in a much shorter time span than those you have mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, henry d said: Really, when was Plymouth? Letby?.... Give yourself a shake! You too That is very much on topic for this thread Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 7 hours ago, Mice! said: You missed out Hungerford Just some that came to mind, most had some sort of mental ill health issues 7 hours ago, Mice! said: bad policing Bad health care is another issue of similar importance 7 hours ago, Mice! said: The London attacks, Manchester bombing, Southport stabbings and many others all have the same things in common, and the violence is getting more common as more immigrants are being brought into the country and spread around the country, yet people showing concern about this are deemed racists, it doesn't mean your racist, it means that your worried about the future your kids will have. Whataboutary? 5 hours ago, Mungler said: And don’t forget to pro-rata the stats, that shows up where the disproportions are…. Ditto for prison populations. Lean on an oppressed community and they show up as disproportionate, white, black but generally poor in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 5 minutes ago, B686 said: Your ethnic mates have killed more in a much shorter time span than those you have mentioned. Actually I don't have many "ethnic" mates from the area you seem to be basing all your bile at, ie Muslim, poor white people, yeah plenty of them. You might want to look up "tu quoque" if you want to talk with adults 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 10 minutes ago, henry d said: Bad health care is another issue of similar importance Not really, if we're talking about guns and there's mental health issues then guns should be removed, the police messed up big time with the Plymouth shooting, he should have already had his guns. Mental health seems to get the blame for everything these days, and sorry but for many it's just a cop out, knowing it means a different sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 17 minutes ago, henry d said: Lean on an oppressed community and they show up as disproportionate, white, black but generally poor in many ways. So you agree the stats and the disproportion? Ugandan Indians escaping Idi Amin. Chinese escaping the CCP. Jews escaping Nazis, Ukranians escaping Putin. Some poor / refugees don’t automatically end up disproportionately responsible for crime or in our prisons. Edited August 3 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Karma? a5d0ee9c-ede6-4710-8b7d-c20ea60b6864.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Quote Your ethnic mates have killed more in a much shorter time span than those you have mentioned. Whether you normally agree with henry d - sometimes I do, but generally not - the above comment is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, henry d said: Really, when was Plymouth? Letby?.... To repeat - “Since 9/11, across Europe we’ve had Madrid, London, Borough Market, London Bridge, Lee Rigby, Shoe Bomber… France have had more than I can count and India have had so many, it’s changed (improving) their relationship with Israel because of their shared terrorist experiences. “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Luckily for us the Danes keep records on who commits crimes by country of origin and ethanicity, unlike our Gov who have chosen not to record it as they don't wish to admit they have a problem........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 21 minutes ago, Stonepark said: Luckily for us the Danes keep records on who commits crimes by country of origin and ethanicity, unlike our Gov who have chosen not to record it as they don't wish to admit they have a problem........ We have the stats here in the UK, it’s just they won’t be released. Indeed, we’ve got the stats for just about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 14 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Quite possibly no trouble or a mosque burned to the ground. 🙄🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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