johnphilip Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/share/r/J7NobNyjVea4SoNa/ Edited August 11 by johnphilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, johnphilip said: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/J7NobNyjVea4SoNa/ 2 faced as well as 2 tier then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, johnphilip said: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/J7NobNyjVea4SoNa/ what about us normal people that don't do faceache 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dessyb Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 clowns have many faces😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 People on this very forum for years said the winter fuel payment should be means tested. People who are millionaires get it … I recall many on here saying they spent it on cartridges. Can’t help but think of the Tories had brought it in some who are complaining would be saying what a sensible change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 It was probably the timing. NHS workers get a mega rise, grinning idiot Ed Milliband boasting about billions being spent abroad, so the UK could have the moral lead in the Emperor's new clothes, that is net zero. Then pensioners face cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 11 Author Report Share Posted August 11 18 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: People on this very forum for years said the winter fuel payment should be means tested. People who are millionaires get it … I recall many on here saying they spent it on cartridges. Can’t help but think of the Tories had brought it in some who are complaining would be saying what a sensible change. There is a vast difference between means test and taking it of everyone. Maybe people who got the fuel allowance used it on fuel heating. And because they did not have to pay the money out of there own pocket that the government gave as an allowance for they decided to treat themselves to something they liked . I don't honestly belive there was many on here agree it should be means tested and probably those that did, did not need it in the first place. The video highlights how two faced he is. While in opposition listen to these poor pensioners . Saying he is feeling sorry for them , none of us pensioners want money taken of us , was it not upto the new government to look into it and do a means test . No let's just take it of everyone, to easy .seem it has backfired as it's not raising as much as they planned it would . Yet. We can give to these channels crosses who have never paid into the system and are never likely to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 What is it costing giving free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland and Wales the free bus passes to under 22 yrs in Scotland and whatever else is doled out to non pensioners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 52 minutes ago, armsid said: What is it costing giving free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland and Wales the free bus passes to under 22 yrs in Scotland and whatever else is doled out to non pensioners Inducements to continue voting Labour, so uncosted, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, amateur said: Inducements to continue voting Labour, so uncosted, of course. Everything is costed?😆 Doesn't mean it's affordable?😆 Just politicians twaddle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 18 hours ago, armsid said: What is it costing giving free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland and Wales the free bus passes to under 22 yrs in Scotland and whatever else is doled out to non pensioners Aye its rare i get 13 items every 2 months at the chemist's that's some savings and free bus pass for the over 60's , That makes up for paying tax since i was working at 15 and them taxing my pension's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 19 hours ago, armsid said: What is it costing giving free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland and Wales the free bus passes to under 22 yrs in Scotland and whatever else is doled out to non pensioners As long as it is costing Scotland and not Westminster they can do whatever they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: As long as it is costing Scotland and not Westminster they can do whatever they want to. The Labour government will end up bailing out Scotland. ie us English 10 hours ago, old man said: Everything is costed?😆 Doesn't mean it's affordable?😆 Just politicians twaddle? Exactly! It's uncosted and blatant vote buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doormat Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 As much as I dislike the boomer generation (that’s a different discussion) it has to be said their unrelenting spending spree has kept things afloat … cruise industry, garden centre etc etc once they decide not to spend, things start to contract which has the usual knock on effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedward Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 Wow ! you dislike a whole generation - says a lot about you my friend, from a bemused boomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Doormat said: As much as I dislike the boomer generation (that’s a different discussion) it has to be said their unrelenting spending spree has kept things afloat … cruise industry, garden centre etc etc once they decide not to spend, things start to contract which has the usual knock on effect. Gawd help the Boomers if pigeons are anything to go by 😉😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 Just now, Penelope said: Gawd help the Boomers if pigeons are anything to go by 😉😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doormat Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 😂👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 4 hours ago, Doormat said: As much as I dislike the boomer generation (that’s a different discussion) it has to be said their unrelenting spending spree has kept things afloat … cruise industry, garden centre etc etc once they decide not to spend, things start to contract which has the usual knock on effect. The pensioners pounds keep lots of places going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 14/08/2024 at 07:54, old man said: Everything is costed?😆 Doesn't mean it's affordable?😆 Just politicians twaddle? Train drivers are OK..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9rxdrj713o............ who's next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 We used to have an Empire run by an emperor then we had a Kingdom run by a King now we got a country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 5 hours ago, Doormat said: As much as I dislike the boomer generation (that’s a different discussion) it has to be said their unrelenting spending spree has kept things afloat … cruise industry, garden centre etc etc once they decide not to spend, things start to contract which has the usual knock on effect. What a silly remark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Doormat said: 😂👍🏻 👍 40 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: We used to have an Empire run by an emperor then we had a Kingdom run by a King now we got a country 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 22 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: As long as it is costing Scotland and not Westminster they can do whatever they want to. Sadly it does cost those of us south of Hadrian's wall £41 billion pounds a year with an extra 2.4 billion the last three fiscal years because of Covid etc. This money is sent under the Barnett agreement to all the nations. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/latest-figures-detail-uk-governments-record-funding-of-41-billion-a-year-for-the-scottish-government FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 (edited) On 14/08/2024 at 15:37, TIGHTCHOKE said: As long as it is costing Scotland and not Westminster they can do whatever they want to. That was always the problem but with Starmer being keen to re-establish Labour’s grip north of the border I can only see that getting worse. He is going to throw money at them. Scotland is an economic wilderness. High unemployment and long term sickness. The ship building has gone, the mining industry has collapsed. Their fishing industry was ruined by EU quotas and the distilleries sold off to foreign investors. The oil industry is in rapid decline and Milliband has now pulled the plug on any future exploration. Most of the land is not suitable for commercial agriculture. Too hilly and poor soil. The climate doesn't help. The hills used to be covered with sheep but not any more. The price of wool has collapsed and the increasing cost of feeding them through the long winter ihas made it impossible to show a profit. So what does that leave for the future of Scotland? Well there is the tourism, but that's never going to be enough. Its also very localised to specific areas. Last time I was up in Scotland all the staff in the hotel i was in were Eastern Europeans , yet there is high local unemployment? Why get up at 5.30am to cook breakfasts in a hotel when you can stay in bed and live off Universal Credit? That says it all really. I will be back up there Tuesday, Argyll and Bute. Let's see what it looks like then. Edited August 17 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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