Westward Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 22 minutes ago, Vince Green said: It's like being back in my old College Student Union Bar in the 1970s all over again. It's the same old, same old Labour. 1970s buffoon Denis Healey reborn as Wrecker Reeves. Totally unqualified to be Chancellor and for whom ideological hatred and revenge policies trump fiscal responsibility. Tax and spend, topped up with reckless borrowing has never worked, but our banking customer services executive pretending to have worked as an economist, appears to have no knowledge of economic history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Just now, oowee said: Now this is one very attractive job. Labour getting on with business. Delivering on the manifesto. Second Permanent Secretary, European Union and International Economic Affairs This is a new Second Permanent Secretary post in the Cabinet Office leading the Government’s relationship with the European Union (EU), working closely with the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, EU counterparts, and the devolved administrations, and overseeing the team working on international economic affairs. This is a high-profile senior position that will receive significant public scrutiny and political attention. https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jcode=1930976 That job would be like being the deck officer on the Titanic. Making sure all the deck chairs are in neat rows as the ship slides down to the bottom. The EU is collapsing slowly and we don't want to be any closer than we have to. I would be the first to admit that we don't have a lot of better options but the world is becoming a very difficult place. Our only chance, and it's not a very good one is staying out of alliances that are going to drag us down with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 6 minutes ago, Vince Green said: That job would be like being the deck officer on the Titanic. Making sure all the deck chairs are in neat rows as the ship slides down to the bottom. The EU is collapsing slowly and we don't want to be any closer than we have to. I would be the first to admit that we don't have a lot of better options but the world is becoming a very difficult place. Our only chance, and it's not a very good one is staying out of alliances that are going to drag us down with them. Good news today that the EU defence alliance (£1.1bn annual) spending will extend to the UK. BAE can get a share. 15 minutes ago, welsh1 said: We left , time to get over it. Labour would be even stupider than we all think if they ever try to rejoin the eu. ? This is about trying to deal with the impact of the vote without the hysteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, oowee said: Good news today that the EU defence alliance (£1.1bn annual) spending will extend to the UK. BAE can get a share. ? This is about trying to deal with the impact of the vote without the hysteria. How strange that labour now want to help deal with the impact of the vote, because in opposition they did everything they could to disrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 27 minutes ago, welsh1 said: How strange that labour now want to help deal with the impact of the vote, because in opposition they, along with the civil service, did everything they could to disrupt. Sorry I felt it needed the extra bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 51 minutes ago, oowee said: Good news today that the EU defence alliance (£1.1bn annual) spending will extend to the UK. BAE can get a share. ? This is about trying to deal with the impact of the vote without the hysteria. https://www.google.com/search?q=bae+share+price&rlz=1CAIGZW_enGB1120GB1120&oq=bae+share+price&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg70gEJNjI5OWowajE1qAIIsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 18 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Sorry I felt it needed the extra bit Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 6 hours ago, Newbie to this said: That's better Again don't disagree. But I think all parties need to do one. They won't be effected by any changes in the budget. They will protect themselves and screw the majority of working people.. 1 hour ago, oowee said: Delivering on the manifesto Not sure I've seen anything delivered or even trying to be. Starmer is a dangerous individual and 100% a puppet. Strange how he won't answer simple questions like why was the US Largest land owner and Business man in the UK talking to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 4 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Not sure I've seen anything delivered or even trying to be. Starmer is a dangerous individual and 100% a puppet. Strange how he won't answer simple questions like why was the US Largest land owner and Business man in the UK talking to him. 🤣 Strange that nothing can fill endless pages of PW diatribe. There are none so blind as cannot see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Since 1909 and Lloyd George's "people's budget" the idea that the so called rich should fund the lifestyle of the so called poor has been an ongoing fundamental of the lazy greedy socialist movement. At the end of the day, those that create wealth, jobs and put money into the economy should be rewarded and encouraged. Not discouraged, punished and despised by those who see no need to need to get out of bed in the morning. Socialism trys to sell the idea that some rich victim is going to pay for the lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) Way before that. It's an intrinsic part of civilisation that we try to support the society around us. A social democracy promotes freedom and equality and opposes inequality and oppression. Edited November 25 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Oowee delivering on the manifesto? Are you joking gone back on his word cannot be trusted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 14 minutes ago, armsid said: Oowee delivering on the manifesto? Are you joking gone back on his word cannot be trusted Careful you'll be called blind like me with that kind of talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 4 hours ago, oowee said: Now this is one very attractive job. Labour getting on with business. Delivering on the manifesto. Second Permanent Secretary, European Union and International Economic Affairs This is a new Second Permanent Secretary post in the Cabinet Office leading the Government’s relationship with the European Union (EU), working closely with the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, EU counterparts, and the devolved administrations, and overseeing the team working on international economic affairs. This is a high-profile senior position that will receive significant public scrutiny and political attention. https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jcode=1930976 Another, totally unnecessary, stupidly highly paid, civil service non-job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, amateur said: Another, totally unnecessary, stupidly highly paid, civil service non-job. Maybe someone should have told Sir Queer that we have left and don't need or want a reset! He is also letting one of Ellie Edwards killers accomplices out very early so he can lock up Twitter users, truly disgusting. Edited November 26 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 5 hours ago, oowee said: Now this is one very attractive job. Labour getting on with business. Delivering on the manifesto. Second Permanent Secretary, European Union and International Economic Affairs This is a new Second Permanent Secretary post in the Cabinet Office leading the Government’s relationship with the European Union (EU), working closely with the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, EU counterparts, and the devolved administrations, and overseeing the team working on international economic affairs. This is a high-profile senior position that will receive significant public scrutiny and political attention. https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jcode=1930976 I obviously need some of your rose tinted glasses. The Labour manifesto action so far bears no relationship to the actual deplorable depths that the PM is sinking to. I find it very difficult to even understand your delight in condoning the unhonourable gentleman's actions and his twisted morals. Do you enjoy seeing your country brought to it's knees. From Auntie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I think the game of ping pong between Labour and the Conservatives has done absolutely nothing for the vast majority of the country. One party looks after the Globalists, elites and big business and the other the work shy. No party has stood for the working masses in years. The country has been lied to repeatedly, over and over again, by the career politicians from both parties who have no intention of changing anything. If we want change, we need to vote for it and change is never going to happen by voting Labour or Conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Signed it twice now but no confirmation email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 It won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest,and if it was next month what would the outcome be? Back to the disastrous Tories? Reform is the only logical alternative and they aren’t likely to get enough support. So it’s all a bit pointless now unfortunately with such a bit majority.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 (edited) With regards to getting another GE, yes it is totally pointless. With regards to showing our disappointment with Liebour, it's probably pointless as well, as it will fall on death ears. But it definitely shows people are not happy. Unfortunately for them to listen, it will have to be another peasant's revolt........ Edited November 27 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Signed it twice now but no confirmation email. My one went to junk, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 56 minutes ago, dead eye alan said: My one went to junk, Looked there and nope - 3 times I've signed it now and had no response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Hello, I never got any follow up mail but see it is past 2.5 million , Yet Starmer and Gang dismiss this like Water off a Ducks back !!!!!! , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 40 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: Looked there and nope - 3 times I've signed it now and had no response. You have to get the e mail and click the link to register the vote, I wonder if it has been 'tampered with' to stop votes registering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 14 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Yet Starmer and Gang dismiss this like Water off a Ducks back !!!!!! , that’s why the gov allow you no more power than a pathetic vote signing will achieve nothing but give them a free laugh at how trapped they have us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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