Weapons removed by Police.

[Dougy]

https://www.thewolfman.co.uk/blog/can-you-have-an-air-gun-with-a-criminal-record-in-the-uk.html

 

Try this.

It's a bit grey regarding the bloke in question because we don't know all the facts. 

But do you think he should be allowed to own what we see in the attached photo. 

Knifes as in a pearing knife, butter knife, steak knife, or knifes intended to be used as weapons ie silly Zombie knifes, swords, and then the knuckle dusters

 

[stumfelter]

2 minutes ago, Dougy said:

https://www.thewolfman.co.uk/blog/can-you-have-an-air-gun-with-a-criminal-record-in-the-uk.html

 

Try this.

It's a bit grey regarding the bloke in question because we don't know all the facts. 

But do you think he should be allowed to own what we see in the attached photo. 

I think he should be allowed to own anything he's legally entitled to.

[Minky]

Usual nonsense.   It's like when they have a weapons amnesty.  They show a pile of general rubbish like clapped out air rifles and stuff that the general public THINK are required to be handed in.  The way that it is reported is just the usual Ill informed stuff.  It's not as if they've had half a dozen sub machine guns and ten thousand rounds handed in. Public propaganda.  A box ticking exercise. OK the bloke is some sort of freak that goes down the local pub bragging about how he's got loads of guns and stuff.  The clowns. Toy guns like video hand controllers Still the records show that wrong doing is being tackled by the force.

We'd have to advise the Mrs to list and justify why she's/ we have got several carving knives.  AND numerous other knives mounted in a wooden block.  In fact she might have To go on a knife awareness and security course.  Maybe an aproved steel cabinet with security locks and a usage register to show that there is need.!  I suppose that the garden tools could come in this as well.  I've got a  well worn Borden fork that would be a lethal weapon.  And I've got a few bricks down the garden .

Edited Monday at 21:00 by Minky

[mel b3]

44 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I can understand a young kid wondering, but used shotgun shells hardly look dangerous 🤔 

They don't look dangerous to you or me (because they arent), but you wouldn't believe just how hysterical a council manager can get over nothing at all.

They've had firearms officers at the yard before now . To inspect a pile of empty carts covered in pigeon feathers.

You can't judge anything council related , by any normal , or rational standards.

 

[Scully]

55 minutes ago, Dougy said:

https://www.thewolfman.co.uk/blog/can-you-have-an-air-gun-with-a-criminal-record-in-the-uk.html

 

Try this.

It's a bit grey regarding the bloke in question because we don't know all the facts. 

But do you think he should be allowed to own what we see in the attached photo. 

Knifes as in a pearing knife, butter knife, steak knife, or knifes intended to be used as weapons ie silly Zombie knifes, swords, and then the knuckle dusters

 

But you need a license to drive a car, and a license to own a firearm. You cannot purchase either without proving you’re legit’. 
You don’t need a license to own an air rifle, nor do you have to prove you aren’t a prohibited person. 
The link you provided also applies to shotguns, but again, you need a license to buy a shotgun. 
Who is going to police it? I have never been asked to prove I’m not a prohibited person for any air rifle I’ve ever bought or been given. 
Edit: Sorry, I didn’t know which photo’ you were referring to. Yes, I think any law abiding person should be able to own anything in the photograph. 

Edited Monday at 21:31 by Scully

[Newbie to this]

8 hours ago, Scully said:

But you need a license to drive a car, and a license to own a firearm. You cannot purchase either without proving you’re legit’. 
You don’t need a license to own an air rifle, nor do you have to prove you aren’t a prohibited person. 
The link you provided also applies to shotguns, but again, you need a license to buy a shotgun. 
Who is going to police it? I have never been asked to prove I’m not a prohibited person for any air rifle I’ve ever bought or been given. 

I think they rely on you obeying the prohibition,under pain of another slap on the wrist.

Edited Tuesday at 06:19 by Newbie to this

[DUNKS]

I wonder how many houses in the UK contain similar if not greater collections of "dangerous weapons"?

[Scully]

27 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

I think they rely on you obeying the prohibitin ,under pain of another slap on the wrist.

Then it’s totally pointless and ineffectual. 
However, he still isn’t a prohibited person. 

Edited Monday at 21:59 by Scully

[steve_b_wales]

3 hours ago, mel b3 said:

That's the way it looks to me dougy.

The trouble is , the general public don't know that , and after reading the article,  they think he's a menace to society. 

Edited to add.

You should see the hysterical fiasco at my work when they find a few empty 12g carts in a bin. 

The police get the first call , then two officers turn up , and shrug their shoulders because they haven't got a clue what they are.

😀

[Vince Green]

3 hours ago, Boristhedog said:

What happened to any form of deterrent if having, amongst other items ‘firearm ammunition without a certificate, and possessing a firearm without a certificate’. resulted in just a ‘fine’ of £299. I thought possession of unlicensed firearms brought a gaol term. 

It is, which is why I doubt the accuracy of the report. It's highly unlikely, I would think, that it was actually a Firearm.

[shaun4860]

47 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

It is, which is why I doubt the accuracy of the report. It's highly unlikely, I would think, that it was actually a Firearm.

They class stunguns as firearms 

[Cosmicblue]

An alternative view, and maybe the one the Police took was that whilst he held a bunch of licenced weapons legally he also had objects which no sensible individual in society can justify owning and as a firearms ticket owner he should be 110% switched on to the sensitivity of the topic.   Questionable judgment at best would be my take, as we all know all too well the slightest suggestion of mental/not quite right in the thinking department and one's ticket is revoked or not renewed.   

[Mice!]

2 hours ago, Scully said:

You don’t need a license to own an air rifle, nor do you have to prove you aren’t a prohibited person. 

If you have served more than 3, could be 5 years then you can not own an air rifle,  your a prohibited person.

Buying at a shop they should register you when buying a gun.

You've likely not had to prove anything being a known SGC holder, a prohibited person can be prosecuted for handling any firearm, which is exactly what an air rifle is.

[Scully]

7 hours ago, Cosmicblue said:

An alternative view, and maybe the one the Police took was that whilst he held a bunch of licenced weapons legally he also had objects which no sensible individual in society can justify owning and as a firearms ticket owner he should be 110% switched on to the sensitivity of the topic.   Questionable judgment at best would be my take, as we all know all too well the slightest suggestion of mental/not quite right in the thinking department and one's ticket is revoked or not renewed.   

He isn’t a ticket holder. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

As is quite usual with stories like this, we will NEVER know the full facts and can only make sensible guesses.

[Scully]

7 hours ago, Mice! said:

If you have served more than 3, could be 5 years then you can not own an air rifle,  your a prohibited person.

Buying at a shop they should register you when buying a gun.

You've likely not had to prove anything being a known SGC holder, a prohibited person can be prosecuted for handling any firearm, which is exactly what an air rifle is.

But he’s not a prohibited person. 
No one has known I’m a SGC owner when I’ve bought an air rifle. I’ve never been asked if I’m a SGC holder nor if I’m a prohibited person whenever I’ve bought an air rifle. 
No one has ever registered me when buying an air rifle. Registered me onto what? No one has ever asked me to give any details when buying an air rifle. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

11 minutes ago, Scully said:

But he’s not a prohibited person. 
No one has known I’m a SGC owner when I’ve bought an air rifle. I’ve never been asked if I’m a SGC holder nor if I’m a prohibited person whenever I’ve bought an air rifle. 
No one has ever registered me when buying an air rifle. Registered me onto what? No one has ever asked me to give any details when buying an air rifle. 

Exactly

The only criteria that a shop selling an under 12 foot air rifle might be expected to check would be the age of the buyer.

[Rim Fire]

There should only have been 2 knuckle dusters and a stun gun in the photo but that wouldn't make much headlines he has done nothing illegal owning air rifles or bladed weapons or crossbow as far as i can tell  

[TIGHTCHOKE]

15 minutes ago, Rim Fire said:

There should only have been 2 knuckle dusters and a stun gun in the photo but that wouldn't make much headlines he has done nothing illegal owning air rifles or bladed weapons or crossbow as far as i can tell  

 

[Rim Fire]

All legal apart from what i said i can't see any ammunition that was reported 

10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

 

 

[old man]

1 hour ago, Rim Fire said:

There should only have been 2 knuckle dusters and a stun gun in the photo but that wouldn't make much headlines he has done nothing illegal owning air rifles or bladed weapons or crossbow as far as i can tell  

Not knowing the full truthful details we will never know the facts?

All this vague rendition has done as usual, is widen the confidence gap between the peelers and the public?

Porky pies?

[Dougy]

Lets say that the air rifles are all under 12 ft-lb, because he is in possession of the "Section 5" Stun gun (so not even a Firearm cert holder can posses, unless in the police force or similar, but then im sure they only use tasers) and the knifes are not the now banned Zombie type. Because he was is possession of the Section 5, that brush will sweep all of the guns legal or not into the prohibited bin for this wally. Including any other "Tool" Weapon call them what you like. Really the owners is a bit of a wally and as said earlier really by @Cosmicblue maybe a bit of proactive reaction by the police in this situation. 

If this wally feels the need to have ta Stun Gun, knuckle dusters and add them to the rest of the collection, what kind of person do you think he portrays, would this person or one with similar mind sets be a member of your close circle of friends, your shooting buddy etc, not forgetting that even by association you could have your licence revoked  

[udderlyoffroad]

47 minutes ago, Dougy said:

If this wally feels the need to have ta Stun Gun, knuckle dusters and add them to the rest of the collection, what kind of person do you think he portrays

What’s your point?

in most countries a stun gun, knuckle dusters etc can be owned by quite legally.

Why on earth are we imprisoning LARPers who’ve never harmed anyone? 

[Dougy]

2 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said:

What’s your point?

in most countries a stun gun, knuckle dusters etc can be owned by quite legally.

Why on earth are we imprisoning LARPers who’ve never harmed anyone? 

Had to check what country you were from reading your post. 

 

What kind of LARP would use a Stun gun or Knuckle Duster   if he was into roll play then you can get imitations.  

The guy is lucky not to be sent down for 10 years the max for being in possession of the stun gun !!! 

 

Stun guns are section 5, knuckle duster come under the "Offensive weapons act 2019"

That's the point 

[serrac]

That's a nice collection of airguns - I wonder if they will actually be destroyed or find themselves back on the market via the back door...