No excuses not to build 1.5m new homes, Rayner says.

[Cosmicblue]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d528g755qo

The deputy PM must have had the same maths teacher as Diane Abbott as the numbers seem to be implausible:

1) The maximum parliamentary term is 5 years - 365x5= 1825 days

2) So to build 1.5m homes that would mean that the house builders would need to complete 821.91 homes per day including weekends....🙃  (1.500,000/1825 days)

3) Is it just me or does that seem a tad unlikely?

 

 

[Raja Clavata]

Indeed it does. As it proved with the previous government who also apparently couldn’t do maths when it involved counting house builds.

[Dougy]

If i passed wind and caught the gas in my pants it would have more sense than the whole of Liebor brain cells put together. 

 

 

I will probably get sent down now for that comment. 

Oh dear never mind,at least it will save of heating bills. 

Edited Sunday at 22:38 by Dougy

[Weihrauch17]

1 hour ago, Cosmicblue said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d528g755qo

The deputy PM must have had the same maths teacher as Diane Abbott as the numbers seem to be implausible:

1) The maximum parliamentary term is 5 years - 365x5= 1825 days

2) So to build 1.5m homes that would mean that the house builders would need to complete 821.91 homes per day including weekends....🙃  (1.500,000/1825 days)

3) Is it just me or does that seem a tad unlikely?

 

 

House building has been declining since they came in.  The Govt and Councils do not physically build houses and cannot dictate how many are built just like they can't force us to have an EV or Heat Pump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce85ggj3640o

[39TDS]

Proposal to build 1.5million homes

Estimated net migration for that period is approx 2 million.

Doesn't take a lot to work out where that fails does it.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, It will never happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GrayA]

...and who is going to buy to be able to rent these "affordable" or council houses?

Housing Associations have no money, the funds they did have, are being used to upgrade their existing housing stock, Councils as we all know have no money either.... we also don't have the trades to build properties on this scale.

9 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

House building has been declining since they came in.  The Govt and Councils do not physically build houses and cannot dictate how many are built just like they can't force us to have an EV or Heat Pump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce85ggj3640o

 Housing associations nor councils have the budgets to buy existing properties that have already been built for "affordable" housing, they are all too busy upgrading their existing stock ready for changes to EPCs.... 

Developers will build enough houses to keep demand high, thats how the market has been allowed to develop.

The 1m plus net migration under the Tories and now continued under Labour, ensures we have housing shortages built in for decades to come.

[JohnfromUK]

To build houses, you need;

1. The site
2. The materials
3. The infrastructure (for new sites but also infrastructure spare capacity for 'fill ins')
4. The workforce and equipment

The site can (albeit with political cost as people will be upset locally) be 'forced through' by planning law changes which I think is already under way?  Sites can also (under present rules) be 'compulsory purchased' by councils(?), but again - it's not (now) a quick and easy process.

The materials will be a problem.  Much would need to be imported and shortages will drive prices up (they have already I think risen faster than inflation).  Making bricks, concrete, tiles etc is VERY energy intensive, and wood is in worldwide short supply.

The infrastructure will generally be a problem.  Many parts of the country are already short of electricity supply capacity (as is the country as a whole), foul water drainage capacity and transport, schools, medical facilities are in many places 'full/overloaded'.  Fresh water is also short in some areas in summer.  IF modern new builds ate to be 'all electric and with charging capacity for electric cars - this is just not within present generating capability.

Labour with suitable skills is in short supply.  Again, shortages will force up prices.

[old man]

The whole scenario defies description.

[Bigbob]

It will never happen but it sounds good to the clowns that voted them in 

[old man]

Just think of the damage this will cause? 

All helps frighten the populace int submission, just part of the scheme?

[discobob]

23 hours ago, Dougy said:

I will probably get sent down now for that comment. 

Don’t worry - they will be jailing everyone right of left

[Vince Green]

Again we have stupid Socialist Ideology

We have a housing problem, allegedly, so build more houses. The truth is we have a people surplus not a housing shortage. 

So get rid of the people we don't have any need for. 

Here in Cornwall the people are complaining that they can't afford the housing we already have so building more won't help. 

Hundreds,  maybe even thousands of private landlords have jacked it in because of changes in the law and more on the way. Has it not occurred to Starmer, Raynor and Milliband they have brought this on themselves?

But no, all we get is knee jerk politics

[Penelope]

5 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Again we have stupid Socialist Ideology

We have a housing problem, allegedly, so build more houses. The truth is we have a people surplus not a housing shortage. 

So get rid of the people we don't have any need for. 

Here in Cornwall the people are complaining that they can't afford the housing we already have so building more won't help. 

Hundreds,  maybe even thousands of private landlords have jacked it in because of changes in the law and more on the way. Has it not occurred to Starmer, Raynor and Milliband they have brought this on themselves?

But no, all we get is knee jerk politics

But you'll need them when the 'wealth' of the world is redistributed.

I see 2TK, the Ginger Growler and Charlie boy were having a nosey round yesterday. 

[Scully]

10 minutes ago, Penelope said:

But you'll need them when the 'wealth' of the world is redistributed.

I see 2TK, the Ginger Growler and Charlie boy were having a nosey round yesterday. 

Yes, I saw that too. A ‘sustainable’ housing development, but no one mentioned what they meant by sustainable. 
Id be interested to know. 

[JohnfromUK]

35 minutes ago, Penelope said:

The truth is we have a people surplus not a housing shortage. 

/\. THIS

[Penelope]

2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

/\. THIS

That was Vince' comment, but true none the less.

[JohnfromUK]

Just now, Penelope said:

That was Vince' comment, but true none the less.

Sorry!

[islandgun]

44 minutes ago, Scully said:

Yes, I saw that too. A ‘sustainable’ housing development, but no one mentioned what they meant by sustainable. 
Id be interested to know. 

[johnphilip]

33 minutes ago, islandgun said:

They would be worth a fortune on the coast 😉

[Vince Green]

2 hours ago, Penelope said:

I see 2TK, the Ginger Growler and Charlie boy were having a nosey round yesterday. 

Yes they were down here in Cornwall looking at a 500 acre new development near Newquay.  The locals call it La La Land because nobody sees the point in it. Nobody wants it

[ditchman]

she now says she is going to green lite....100 new towns ....

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, ditchman said:

she now says she is going to green lite....100 new towns ....

Must be multi-storey then...............STACKED on TOP of each other................

[TIGHTCHOKE]

12 new towns from a 100 selected locations actually.

[ditchman]

1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

12 new towns from a 100 selected locations actually.

its been very badly reported this morning then..............