Cranfield Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 The four largest farms I shoot over are not drilling any rape for harvest in 2016, a lot of acreage is being drilled with cover crop, followed by peas and beans in the Spring. Is this happening elsewhere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Consequence of EU regulations if they want to collect Single Farm Payment grant. Pigeons round me have liked last years cover crop all year, though half of it has just been min tilled and put into winter rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 There is a fair amount off rape not put in this year as the cost off rape and chemicals is hardly worth them doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 There seems to be quite a bit of maize type crop being grown in this area at the moment, I think it is for Bio Digesters. I dont know how much of the crop is harvested, ie down to ground level, anyone know ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) There seems to be quite a bit of maize type crop being grown in this area at the moment, I think it is for Bio Digesters. I dont know how much of the crop is harvested, ie down to ground level, anyone know ? Cut it down to less than a foot tall, horrible stuff. We ploughed a field of maize stubble last year, planted it with bulbs and when we came back and harvested it, the maize stubble came up and it hadn't even started to rot away! Not very good for soil structure if i recall as well Edited October 4, 2015 by Big Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not here mine are drilling rape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 rape everywhere here................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 All wheat on one of mine, a young lad farms it had peas rape and wheat. The rape gave ok yield the wheat was good but the rain killed the peas as he could get them cut but he did say today he may give the peas another go (hope he dose had some fun over them ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 rape here too , on one farm that's all there drilling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Rape and some pillage , hopefully here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 There is a fair amount off rape not put in this year as the cost off rape and chemicals is hardly worth them doing it A lot of this is subsidy driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 My farmer friend has drilled as much rape this year as he did last year . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 My farmer friend has drilled as much rape this year as he did last year . Harnser Quite, we haven't but that's because of rotation. My farmer friend has drilled as much rape this year as he did last year . Harnser Quite, we haven't but that's because of rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 has I have said before one farm first rape in 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitetail Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 There seems to be quite a bit of maize type crop being grown in this area at the moment, I think it is for Bio Digesters. I dont know how much of the crop is harvested, ie down to ground level, anyone know ? yes the maize is being grown for the bio digesters .it's well worth keeping a eye on the stubbles especially if it turn wet over the next few weeks, a lot of the land that's been rented is on heavy land /clay and going by the last two years could be left most of the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotguneddy Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) rape everywhere here................. Same here mate Edited October 5, 2015 by Shotguneddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 The two farmers over whose farm I shoot have said in Essex have said they are putting in less rape due to the changes in the coating to the seed. Evidently the coating prevents against a particular beetle but this has/is about to be banned thus meaning the crop is more susceptible to the beetle. With that and other factors, it seems a bit of a loss maker in their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Flea beetle and neonicotinoid pesticide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonicotinoid http://www.soilassociation.org/keepbritainbuzzing/beeresearch http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33641646 The two farmers over whose farm I shoot have said in Essex have said they are putting in less rape due to the changes in the coating to the seed. Evidently the coating prevents against a particular beetle but this has/is about to be banned thus meaning the crop is more susceptible to the beetle. With that and other factors, it seems a bit of a loss maker in their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Seems to be more rape than ever in Norfolk and Suffolk. A lot of direct drill straight in to the stubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Seems to be more rape than ever in Norfolk and Suffolk. A lot of direct drill straight in to the stubbles. I agree with Whitebridges , four farms I go on are all growing as much rape as previous years . For how good ( or bad ) the rape shooting has been the last few years , I don't know weather its a good thing or bad thing , as the last year or two I have shot very few until it start to grow again around late Feb or early March . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 on one farm i shoot he has put in again 8 fields of rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Are people confusing cover crops with green manure, or is there game shooting on the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 flea beetle, chemical use and price drop seem to be the deciding factors 1 farm ended up pulling all his rape up and put late barley in because of beetle damage and not putting any in this year another 600 acre farm none at all 1200 acre farm realley cut back because of beetle damage he had some huge bare patches that were great for shooting the rst that didnt have a problem are putting in just as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 One estate in Norfolk I shoot over usualy grows 15-20 fields of rape, This year they have just one. Not that it matters much as the pigeons seem to be feeding on rape less and less. Last year I never shot a single pigeon over rape and only a few dozen the year before. On my shoot the days of big bags of pigeons over rape have long gone. Most of my birds come from drillings or clover these days in winter\spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleg in kale Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 two of the farms I shoot on have sown a few fields to mustard green manure, no game shoots . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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