Bloody Rude

[TIGHTCHOKE]

If you were one of the people that visited me when I was shooting this afternoon in Rutland, please think about how you conduct yourself.

 

I would never disturb another shooter when he is enjoying some good sport on a field.

 

I approached you and asked if I could help you and you were just plain rude.

 

And as for driving in to the field and along the headland, well that is NOT the done thing.

 

If I never see you again it will be too soon.

 

You sir are an oaf.

 

 

 

Please leave a shooter who is already set up alone, move on and find your own field to set up in.

Edited May 1, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE

[Old farrier]

Bad day mate ☹️😡

 

Count to 10 deep calming breaths chill

 

Don't expect you feel better but I tried 😉

 

All the best

Of

[JDog]

Not good but I may be able to describe an even worse scenario.

 

Last week I set up in a field and was going quite well when another decoyer came and set up in the same field as me right on the flight line and within 5m of a footpath. I packed up immediately.

 

When will these people learn some manners?

[bigman]

Blooming eak Dave what's gone down bud?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Luckily they went after a few minutes and I continued. I went to see the farmer after I packed up in case he had gone up there, but he hadn't.

 

The farmers thoughts were that the two blokes had spent all day looking for some sport and when they thought they had found it, I was already set up.

 

I would hope they read this thread, but wonder if they can read as I have not added any pictures!

[fenboy]

Not good but I may be able to describe an even worse scenario.

 

Last week I set up in a field and was going quite well when another decoyer came and set up in the same field as me right on the flight line and within 5m of a footpath. I packed up immediately.

 

When will these people learn some manners?

 

I doubt they have the mental capacity to learn any manners.

[aga man]

It certainly is annoying when inexperienced numpty's blow your cover!, rather like when you get someone approach when you are pike fishing etc "you had out mate"

 

I would always let them know i am not pleased and that they should go away and jerk there movements!

[7daysinaweek]

bloody poor show that! there are elements of society who are just so inconsiderate. as said by yourself and jdog their conduct is not just downright rude it also inconsiderate as you will have also put in recconaissance and they think they can just turn up and trump your hard work and sport.

 

Grrrrhhhh!

[sitsinhedges]

Pigeon shooting is often a bun fight with different vested interests arguing over the land and a race to be first on a decent opportunity. Some you win and some you lose, I try not to get too bent out of shape about it these days. Game shoots can be a pain too though having a hushpower mitigates a lot of their concerns.

[Darno]

I'm very lucky to have a fair bit of ground to shoot at and have never had anything like you describe.

However, when I do see someone set up, I am often tempted to go and have a chat and see how they're getting on, like minded people and all that, but I never have as I'm never sure what response I would get,

I would have no problem with someone coming for a chat if they saw me, so long as they kept their head down and crouched behind my hide or something.

But to set up in the same field is knob isn't it!!

[Whitetail]

Tightchoke I'm afraid it's not that unusual behaviour from some shooters , I've had people set up deliberately on the flight line more than once. Another time I was having a good morning on pea drilling when two guys came over and asked if I had permission and they were going to shoot the field whether I liked it or not , it backfired on them because I had maybe 70/80 birds out and they ended up watching birds decoying to me ,if only that happened more often , most times I just pack up with the day ruined. There's some real tool bags out there , it's not exclusive to shooting there's some dossies go fishing too

[fortune]

Very difficult unless you own the sporting rights.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Very difficult unless you own the sporting rights.

 

 

Not sure that would make much difference. I was shooting vermin (woodpigeons and corvids) at the farmers request.

 

He is old school like his Father and hangs the dead corvids in his fields.

 

He knows the two chaps who visited me and they have not spoken to him or shot his farms for years.

 

I firmly believe that if someone is already on the field you go elsewhere, we will see if there is anyone shooting that field this afternoon!

[rimfire4969]

It was nice to finally meet you.

[pigeon controller]

We have some shared permissions , up till now we've not had a concern as first come first shoot, we have one shooter that DB is waiting to wind up as he only turns out when he wants to and not in the cold winter days. That could be interesting??

Edited May 2, 2016 by pigeon controller

[Cranfield]

One of the reasons I rarely shoot weekends on shared land, especially when the stubbles are about.

 

I have a "stalker" in a two tone Shogun that will often park in the field entrance/layby/lane, etc., and watch me shooting.

They don't really interfere, but its a bit weird, they can be there for a few hours.

As soon as I start to pack-up they disappear.

 

However, I do have problems with the general public , well away from footpaths, walking dogs (often off leads), ramblers, occasional dirt bikes/ATV's, it just seems a fact of life nowadays.

[ditchman]

the silly thing is..............if manners/curtesy is employed...it can often work better with other shooters coming on to your patch........its often happened to me and someone turns up on their quad-bike...we have a quick chat ...then end up bouncing the birds between us.............

[fenboy]

the silly thing is..............if manners/curtesy is employed...it can often work better with other shooters coming on to your patch........its often happened to me and someone turns up on their quad-bike...we have a quick chat ...then end up bouncing the birds between us.............

 

I was hoping that when JDog set up home in the posh part of Lincolnshire he would bounce birds twix me and him ------- I am still waiting for them to arrive though .

[ditchman]

 

I was hoping that when JDog set up home in the posh part of Lincolnshire he would bounce birds twix me and him ------- I am still waiting for them to arrive though .

 

 

he has sent them over under 2nd class............could be a long while before they arrive

[Royboy]

 

I doubt they have the mental capacity to learn any manners.

How can anyone have the nerve to do that ! Crazy

[NatureBoy]

Similar thing happened to me Saturday, and has been for some time! 2 local shooters " who know every thing" shoot on some of same perms as me. Bragg to farmers how great they are, and how carp they think i am. Yet when they have seen me set up and doing OK will never leave me to it! From standing visibly watching me for ages. Setting up in same field. Leaving truck in same field in bright sun under flight line or to reflect over field and going off in another to shoot near by. Leaving lit bangers. Even putting up a rocket one time. "didn't realise you were on that field bor". Parking in entrances to fields and tracks. Hinting to farmers that i shoot birds of prey/game. One farmer found it very amusing for a while. As before he gave me permission he would only see them about twice a year. After he had they almost followed me into that farm yard or fields most weekends. To the point he and his workers called them my shadow! Lol! Came to a head one day after that farmer put down some pheasants and red legs to make better rough shoot. Was in farm yard chanting, he saying he going to cut down on on shooters now (thought it would be me. Last in first out) when they turned up. they butted into conversation all bolshey like. farmer told them what he had just told me and politely that there services no longer required.This led to talk of luring his pheasants on to next farm and shooting them. Farmer walks off! I then get told i ######up "there shooting, what they thought of the farmer and that there mates and family have got other perms we SHARE! covered that day. Lead to us not speaking and avoiding each other for a while.

I had already been going out bit later to avoid clashing over fields with them and others. This often leads to me trying to use them to my advantage. Especially on large blocks of rape through the winter. Knowing/hearing where they are and where the pigeons might move to/form. Have had some good bags this way.

 

Saturday, after looking round all perms finally late morning i find some birds down and others joining on 2 fields where the rape was knocked back. Decide to set up in a ditch beneath the only small tree at the far end of a thin hedge dividing the two fields. Even better can drive to position as times getting on. Not ideal for wind. Quartering left to right, but not to strong and that's where most birds wanted to be. Plus ditch and hedge finish 80 yrds before the end of the field. This was where the birds were flighting into and between the 2 fields. Hide sorted with birds try to return to field. Things were looking promising. Decided to try something a little different and put a magnet and floater in the field behind me as well. As i was doing this i caught a glimpse of a truck entering and stopping in the far end of the field i was setting up in .My shadows return! This is another of the farms i share with them. I continue setting up! They are watching! They a good 380 yrds plus from me so i am not to bothered. 12 flocked shells. 6 close in at end of hedge. 6 out in field with flapper, gap through middle. Other magnet 15 yrds out and well up wind to the left .Another bouncer out down wind out in the field. Real breasted birds on magnet flapper and bouncer. Then! They start driving up the field!. Now i am bothered! They stop about halfway,. I think, here we go again, but nowt i can do about it. Then they continue coming! I go to meet them carrying my 2 real crow decs to edge of my patten near to where crows had been emptying a pheasant nest of eggs. i place them on track. They stop! Short greeting. There excuse is they thought i was packing up. Obvious i wasn't, and not happy! They had bin elsewhere and done carp! Shrugged and said i wanted to get started just as a group of pigeons piled straight in the patten. After seeing this and others they said they going to set up.Must of sensed i not to happy as then added, in the adjoining field. Gestured to get past me and my truck. stood my ground. they turned round and went wheel spinnig down track/margin after mumbling something about me wasting carts on crows.That way they had to go back through farm to get into other field. Had a hard week at work so didn't need that hassle.Truck tucked away and in to hide at 12 oc. Just got the maxus loaded when 1st bird came straight in over end of hedge. Bang! It wasn't leaving. others followed. I was liking this! Half hour and 10 birds down. Magnet and floater behind helped in pulling birds from long way off. Then bang! Bang!t They Started And my birds stopped! Sounded close to. Had a look.

They set up in taller rape out in middle of other field about 200yrds away behind me and under strongest flight line. Things went quiet for a while before birds started coming in again from in front of me this time before curling into the patten or magnet. Said they wanted this bit of the field. Ones and twos and small groups. Tided up regularly as they flared from birds on there backs. Added the fallen to the patten. Some not 5ms from the hide. this seemed to bring the birds right in with confidence. 3 crows paid the price for being nosey to. Odd birds came in to the tree above my head. being low in a ditch made them hard to get on to. Had been a while since i shot from a ditch so took a while to get used to the perspective. By 3.30 i had 28 pigeons and 3 crows. As the others shot more my birds slowed or would not decoy so well. This lead to some challenging shooting at high crossers or flaring birds coming from behind at hedge height after others had shot. I was determined to make the best of the situation as i could and managed to drop some high and fast birds from all angles. Birds turned off about 6.30. Picked 46 pigeons 3 crows and got a rabbit as i was picking up. A few birds lost in the taller rape despite my best efforts to find em for 121 carts. Not as good a ratio as the good and the great on pigeon watch. But i was well pleased. would it of been even better if i had em to myself? hard to say. i think so!

Met the other shooters again waiting as i left the farm. They had 31 for 42 carts. So they must be better than me!! Lol!

After them moaning that i had my magnet in "there field" we went our separate ways. until next time!

 

Farmer happy! His dogs had bit of practice finding 9 lost birds that evening that he gave me today.

 

 

ATG NB

[bluesj]

Had much the same this morning

Arrived at the farm and had a quick look round. Found the crows on some newly drilled peas, they where coming down a valley on the wind turning 180 and dropping in bank out of the wind.

I got set up and had 4 or 5 coming in before I had the gun out of the slip . I had 6 down in the first 1/2 hour ish then someone started shooting up the valley and that was the end that, managed to get 6 more just walking around the farm

[JDog]

Nature Boy, they must really have got to you to make you post like that.

 

Of course none of these miscreants are on PW.

[sitsinhedges]

Nature Boy, they must really have got to you to make you post like that.

 

Of course none of these miscreants are on PW.

 

I thought it was a good write up... Shame there were no pictures

[pigeon controller]

I could feel the pain in your post, as I've stated before I'm a firm believer in Karma and you will have your day as a reward and they will get there comeuppance.