TONY R Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 My old Union Armera, i have had it 40 years, its been my regular game gun for that time, only use O Us in some venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Very few of the Serious game shots I know, myself included......use a Spanish made SBS gun!.......I confess to no experience with and have never seen in use one (or a pair?) of the very top priced Spanish SLE's Well I don't where you shoot or load but every season I see many people using pairs of AYA 1's , Arrietas, Grullas, etc.. I class a serious game shooter as someone who shoots 25+ days, and normally the bags are 200+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) These are a few of my guns. Do you like them? AyA #2 RA in 28G AyA 25 SL 25 sl & 28g #2 RA Ugartechea 20 Victor Sarasqueta 6EC Edited June 22, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Look ok to me But in kind of jellous of the blue, mine looked like that 40 years ago, the old spanish gentleman is going grey these days its not all gone but its going a bit like me i guess, what to do get it blacked or let the pattena of hard work show its worth? Think ill just keep it well oiled and leave it as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I love round actions fortune and that no 2 is beautiful. The 25 is exquisite and got me wanting another even more! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle The Bear Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Ahh.. hopefully a return to sensible height birds and more importantly sensible loads, as I have said many times before, there are loads of people who would enjoy shooting SxS a lot more if they only used loads that suit the gun. If they take the plunge and get a nice side by side for their game shooting I can guarantee, they will be grinning like a Cheshire cat. How many times have you heard on a shoot day - I cant use a side by side as the recoil is to severe, then you look at their cartridge bag and see 34 /36 gram cartridges. That aside I have observed over the years the increase in peoples perception of suitable cartridges for game shooting being heavy loads - this without a doubt leads to loads of game which can only be described as mincemeat - It does our image no good at all, remember we should eat what we shoot!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Ahh.. hopefully a return to sensible height birds and more importantly sensible loads, as I have said many times before, there are loads of people who would enjoy shooting SxS a lot more if they only used loads that suit the gun. If they take the plunge and get a nice side by side for their game shooting I can guarantee, they will be grinning like a Cheshire cat. How many times have you heard on a shoot day - I cant use a side by side as the recoil is to severe, then you look at their cartridge bag and see 34 /36 gram cartridges. That aside I have observed over the years the increase in peoples perception of suitable cartridges for game shooting being heavy loads - this without a doubt leads to loads of game which can only be described as mincemeat - It does our image no good at all, remember we should eat what we shoot!!! Quite agree! Personally, I use Lyalvale Express, 6 shot, 28 grams, Special Game (21/2"), in my Engish SxS, I found that these patterned very well and always felt if I missed it was me not the cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Try to use a side by side on most game days elegy impax and Grand Prix bismuth seem to cover most normal days shooting Although I prefer a heavier OU for wildfowling Boxlock game gun All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Ahh.. hopefully a return to sensible height birds and more importantly sensible loads, as I have said many times before, there are loads of people who would enjoy shooting SxS a lot more if they only used loads that suit the gun. If they take the plunge and get a nice side by side for their game shooting I can guarantee, they will be grinning like a Cheshire cat. How many times have you heard on a shoot day - I cant use a side by side as the recoil is to severe, then you look at their cartridge bag and see 34 /36 gram cartridges. That aside I have observed over the years the increase in peoples perception of suitable cartridges for game shooting being heavy loads - this without a doubt leads to loads of game which can only be described as mincemeat - It does our image no good at all, remember we should eat what we shoot!!! Couldn`t agree more with the above ! Game birds don`t require fox & goose loads. Edited June 23, 2016 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) 1 1/16oz 5 or 6s for Game. Used to be good for duck too in 2 1/2" chambered sxs pre lead ban days too. Steel seemes to have ended up with people over compensating for it reduced effectiveness over lead on all fronts. Edited June 23, 2016 by Paul1440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 hello, i did have one hello, i can see another wanted ad coming on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 hello, i can see another wanted ad coming on Facto non verba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Supersport04 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) http://www.williampowell.com/The-Linhope.htm This would definitely take the punishment of heavy cartridges on big bag high bird days. If only they did one with a straight stock and a concave rib... On the other hand, nothing beats a good quality english boxlock or sidelock Edited June 23, 2016 by 14Supersport04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Have a look at Merkel. I wanted a custom gun. Well ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I sold my last o/u about four years ago, don't miss it at all. I prefer my ugartechea sxs for driven and walked up shooting. Normally use eley impax or grand prix in the sxs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 One of the best kept secrets in cheap SxS shotguns is the humble BSA , they can be the basic non ejector model or the ejector models in a few flavours in various amounts of sweetness. All are very well made of best materials and are strong dependable and reliable. Jessops fuid steel barrels and decent ergonomics on the wood work if perhaps a little plain in the grain but acceptable given the pedigree. BSAs are cheap for what they are and worth a look no matter who you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 hello, i can see another wanted ad coming on Make me an offer I can't refuse........ (Inherited my dad's Ivor Roberts n I can't shoot both at the same time.... not rich enough for double gun days... or even single gun days for that matter ) Cheers Fizz (It's got 2.5" Chambers by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Make me an offer I can't refuse........ (Inherited my dad's Ivor Roberts n I can't shoot both at the same time.... not rich enough for double gun days... or even single gun days for that matter ) Cheers Fizz (It's got 2.5" Chambers by the way) hello, pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I use a lovey victor sarasquita sidekick 26 inched with a Churchill rib model 6ec and also a bernadelli sxs 20 bore also a lovley gun Victor is heavily choked and the 20 both half and half If someone offered double the money for what I paid I would not sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I have a lovely Sarasqueta model 8, I too would not ever sell it. Always on the look out for another but proving difficult so far, but I live in hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) For those that like the AyA 25 here are four pictures of mine. It is choked I/C & ½. I didn’t get on with it for some time and had to try really hard to master the sight picture but I have had some really good memorable shots and days with it. Edited June 25, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Am I alone in viewing the engraving on AyA's principally 25's and No 2 SLE as a bit repetitive, heavy and a touch, well.....crude, I think it spoils the appearance of the guns! Tin hat on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Have used sxs guns all my shooting life for which I prefere the hammer gun .Most used at the present is a pair of sxs 24 bore hammer gun and a sxs 32 bore hammer gun which at my age are more easy to carry Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 I have a miroku sxs, I think its a 500. Steel proofed with 3 inch chambers and as light as a feather. Only gets the odd outing on clays but it is good fun and adds variety to my usual o/u. Wouldn't be without a sxs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SHOOT WITH TWO CHARLES HELLIS BOXLOCKS,, ONE "28 & "23/4 CHAMBERS & ONE "26 & "2 CHAMBERS THIS ONE IS A DELIGHT AT ONLY 5 Lbs, BOTH SAME L.O.P. I AM COLLECTING A "3 CHAMBERED & "30 BARRELED BSA NEXT MONTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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