Deker Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) The knife laws are obviously not working, nor have they from day one, unless you're law abiding of course. While I can agree the petition is indeed a worthy cause, wouldn't it be worthwhile lobbying for a change to knife legislation also, or instead? Definitely as well but not instead, the weapon could have easily have been a lump of 2x4 and not a knife Oh and signed Edited October 16, 2016 by Deker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Signed, hopefully karma will call on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollieollie Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Signed. Personally i'd use him as a training aid with some of the dogs K9 colleagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 This law is a waste of time like a lot of other laws. If you think it through to It's conclusion It won't help the situation of the dogs getting injured and having to live with the injury or having to be put down because they can't be given to anyone to rehome because of the potential danger to the public. Some sort of anti stab protection is the answer. Better that the crim gets a bit of a mauling by the dog than he gets a concurrent sentence that means nothing but the dog has to live with the consequences. Exactly....the knife laws didn't stop the dog being stabbed and neither will 'Finns Law', if it indeed becomes law, which it seriously has a chance of becoming so because of the way our politicians react to problems ; it is the cheaper and easier route to go down. No doubt the dogs handler was wearing an anti stab vest; pity they never thought to give the same amount of duty of care to the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) The dogs head was stabbed. Anti stab vests won't stop that. There is a possibility that a dog anti stab vest would impede the dogs freedom and speed of movement too. Human anti stab vests only cover the top half of the body, not the head or legs and they are often hidden under clothes. With a dog it would be obvious it was wearing it and the criminal would just aim for anything not covered by it.. Edited October 16, 2016 by loriusgarrulus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 59,042 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 The dogs head was stabbed. Anti stab vests won't stop that. There is a possibility that a dog anti stab vest would impede the dogs freedom and speed of movement too. Human anti stab vests only cover the top half of the body, not the head or legs and they are often hidden under clothes. With a dog it would be obvious it was wearing it and the criminal would just aim for anything not covered by it.. I don't agree with much of this to be honest, but perhaps it's just that dogs are considered expendable. I can commend the goodwill behind the proposal, but it will become just yet another ineffective piece of legislation if passed. The politicians can pat each other on the back and commend themselves that they have done well by supporting public outrage and are now deemed to have 'done something', while statistics will show sometime down the line that it has done absolutely nothing to combat such attacks. But, as long as everyone's happy it's job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd. Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Signed. 61287 .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Signed and circulated. Many a time a police dog has saved my bacon. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 The number has shot up since I signed yesterday. At this rate it'll be home and dry with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I can commend the goodwill behind the proposal, but it will become just yet another ineffective piece of legislation if passed. The politicians can pat each other on the back and commend themselves that they have done well by supporting public outrage and are now deemed to have 'done something', while statistics will show sometime down the line that it has done absolutely nothing to combat such attacks. But, as long as everyone's happy it's job done. Sadly, history proves you to be absolutely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Gents this is amazing... thank you all so much. Really do appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Gents this is amazing... thank you all so much. Really do appreciate it. You are welcome and I am sure MRS guzzicat would say that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Gents this is amazing... thank you all so much. Really do appreciate it. What's the latest vote count? Is there a link to see the progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 What's the latest vote count? Is there a link to see the progress? Click on the link: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/168678 78,303 signatures at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Well chaps... it's hit the 100,000 Mark. So now has to be debated in parliament. Fingers crossed. Keep signing though hey... lol. Thank you all very very much. Knew I could rely on the upstanding members of PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 The fact that it has exceeded 100000 signatures has just been mentioned on the ITV Anglia news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPJA Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Signed What I don't get is how people get threatened with prison by the RSPCA for shooting squirrels with an air rifle but its only criminal damage to stab a police dog. Maybe they should let the RSPCA deal with it I thought just having a knife without using it could get you put away on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Signed What I don't get is how people get threatened with prison by the RSPCA for shooting squirrels with an air rifle but its only criminal damage to stab a police dog. Maybe they should let the RSPCA deal with it I thought just having a knife without using it could get you put away on its own. This is part of the problem with the law, if you were done with cruelty to animals the max sentence would only be 6months prison (in reality 3) so they charge with criminal damage instead which is a longer max sentence, although I can't remember the length at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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