scotslad Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Cheers stu. Sorry for my ignorance off long range shooting. But is there a limit? as at some point the rifle barrel will point up throu the scopes line of sight or does it not get quite as extreme as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Jesus some of you need to get out more!! Let it go ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 This is a discussion for interested people . If your not interested then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, scotslad said: Don't mean to pick on u EE but I'm more shocked saddened by ur attitude to it. There is a wealth of people who definitely write as thou they have vast experience and most are saying it's not a very clever or sporting shot to take. How u can even compare missing a 30m shot to missing 1 at 167m is just silly. While everyone can miss the odd 30m shot if ur missing many u should be checking ur scope or practising more, u could aim perfectly for the 167m shot and just differences in the bullets flight could make the bullet miss never mind human error Have a read for urself about MOA, if u shot sub MOA groups at 50m u'd be under 1/2" groups, that same sub MOA group at 100m stretches to 1" and at 150m ur 1.5". And according to those clips its really pretty much impossible to consistently shoot sub MOA groups past 100m, and u really need to be shooting that to make a clean kill To shoot sub MOA groups outpast100m can take a bit of doing even of a bipod with factory ammo, so when u start allowing for drop and wind drift at 150m soto shoot that of sticks at nite is really an Olympic achiement There is a wealth of people who definitely write as thou they have vast experience and most are saying it's not a very clever or sporting shot to take. so many have said but why? we are there for vermin control, if he can do it and do it consistently then what difference does it make whether is 30 or 150 and long as he is killing them and hes doing it safely? Hes happy with his shooting the farmer is massively happy with the 50+ bunnys hes killed cleanly in the first month of shooting it with rimfire. Ive yet to see him have to dispatch one after by hand. and seen only one miss. everyone has missed the point on my 30m comment, I have yet to see him balls up a shot at any range except for one miss, I have seen a few people from this board who consistently shoot out of cars at close ranges have to get out and stretch a few necks my point was you can mess it up at any range, i dont condone it but it happens to us all: anyone saying it dont is a liar!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Ultrastu said: It looks as big as the bushes its next to . Maybe they are 30” bushes. He didn’t state any measurements for nearby shrubbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, 39TDS said: Maybe they are 30” bushes. He didn’t state any measurements for nearby shrubbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I find that very hard to believe he never misses at those ranges. He really should be trying out for olymipcs if that is the case If my head keepers caught me shooting at anything at that range with subs I would of got my bum kicked. If u really can't see the difference and the marigns for error at those distances. To be honest I probably wouldn't even attempt to shoot a fox at 167m of a single stick (twin sticks or tripod possibly?) in the dark, and that's with a 223 where I don't have to worry about drop or wind drift. I may not claim to be a brilliant shot but I also don't miss very many and don't have many lamp shy foxes either. I have also in the past (like many others I'm sure) shot 100 plus rabbits in a night and never had the need to shoot past 80 odd m I think delwint has made the best most recent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Evil Elvis said: There is a wealth of people who definitely write as thou they have vast experience and most are saying it's not a very clever or sporting shot to take. so many have said but why? we are there for vermin control, if he can do it and do it consistently then what difference does it make whether is 30 or 150 and long as he is killing them and hes doing it safely? Hes happy with his shooting the farmer is massively happy with the 50+ bunnys hes killed cleanly in the first month of shooting it with rimfire. Ive yet to see him have to dispatch one after by hand. and seen only one miss. everyone has missed the point on my 30m comment, I have yet to see him balls up a shot at any range except for one miss, I have seen a few people from this board who consistently shoot out of cars at close ranges have to get out and stretch a few necks my point was you can mess it up at any range, i dont condone it but it happens to us all: anyone saying it dont is a liar!! He does sound like an extraordinary shot. If i was him, I would 100% be shooting competitively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Delwint said: Jesus some of you need to get out more!! Let it go ? They cant do that its as close to shooting some of them get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Ultrastu said: This is a discussion for interested people . The point is, there are many forms of discussion, some are more welcome than others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted January 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 What would pigeonwatch be without its armchair critics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 hours ago, Evil Elvis said: What would pigeonwatch be without its armchair critics? there wouldn't be any one criticising crazy shots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, andrewluke said: there wouldn't be any one criticising crazy shots! That response hits the nail squarly on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 23:51, colin lad said: ah the 704 yard hare Just had to, spent the last half hour reading it... For the members who'll be wonder what the 704 thread is about. 704yd hare v-maxed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, andrewluke said: there wouldn't be any one criticising crazy shots! and perhaps at times those doing these sort of things take a step back and have a good think about there actions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Just had to, spent the last half hour reading it... For the members who'll be wonder what the 704 thread is about. 704yd hare v-maxed That is exactly what my Fridday afternoon needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Just had to, spent the last half hour reading it... For the members who'll be wonder what the 704 thread is about. 704yd hare v-maxed thanks Joe, only read the first page. can't comment because I've no experience of shooting at these ranges, not even from my arm chair ? but it is annoying having a mate who can naturally just shoot great. watching life below zero this week and the lass took three shots at a sheep, free standing shooting up hill, looked a good distance and she didn't get within two feet I would say, if she had of hit it which could have been anywhere I imagine it would have either limped away or rolled down the scree and rocks and nothing would have been left of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) I just hope none of you that has slated him for not caring about his quarry at distance. shoot at pheasants because i have seen guns shoot at pheasants that's way to high and shout leg down and never to be seen again how many shout runner now he meant to kill his bird but he didnt so do he not shoot at the next one oh yeah he shoots all day long still pricking birds shouting i seen feather come off that one. weather it was luck or fluke i don't know but he got it why have some people on here got to turn it into an argument jesus Edited January 27, 2018 by Rim Fire spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Rim fire I fully agree. I too have seen my fair share of pricked pheasants and other birds I've dealt with over the years. But am I also guilty? Honestly... yes I think I would be tbh. Ive hit my fair share of pigeons from bad decisions, and not seen them drop within my eyesight. Not in years but i have done it and i bet most on here have too but cant afford to say it. Its a open forum for the world to see and for a chance for all our sport to survive with the pressure this ****ed up country is under, posting up bragging rites of a shooter taking risky shots is downright due a bit of flak.167yards? ok maybe. fluke more likely. but *** for the sake of everyone who enjoys all aspect of this sport (and hopefully will in the future) keep the bragging stories to the pub or yourself as it does more harm than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 25/01/2018 at 09:21, scotslad said: Cheers stu. Sorry for my ignorance off long range shooting. But is there a limit? as at some point the rifle barrel will point up throu the scopes line of sight or does it not get quite as extreme as that That's why you get 24 inch super high scope rings, you can then mount the barrel near vertically and zero the scope according to the wind. The seriously long range chaps make some extraordinary kit to deal with exactly the problem you raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, strimmer_13 said: Rim fire I fully agree. I too have seen my fair share of pricked pheasants and other birds I've dealt with over the years. But am I also guilty? Honestly... yes I think I would be tbh. Ive hit my fair share of pigeons from bad decisions, and not seen them drop within my eyesight. Not in years but i have done it and i bet most on here have too but cant afford to say it. Its a open forum for the world to see and for a chance for all our sport to survive with the pressure this ****** up country is under, posting up bragging rites of a shooter taking risky shots is downright due a bit of flak.167yards? ok maybe. fluke more likely. but *** for the sake of everyone who enjoys all aspect of this sport (and hopefully will in the future) keep the bragging stories to the pub or yourself as it does more harm than good. As i have said before you don't need the anties to do the job you doing it for them they are probably coming up with more ammunition to fire at us from this forum than any other i know of we will shoot ourselves in the foot almost everything on here ends up in an argument only the other week i put up what someone had typed and got himself into trouble and i got slated this is why myself and others don't put up posts anymore there was some really good guys on here and they just look now like myself i was even asked do i have a license by one member but if he had looked at some of my posts from the past he would have seen where i used to put up posts of Boar Deer and did a lot of foxing by the way i still do but wont put up on here even the moderators stick up for the selected few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: As i have said before you don't need the anties to do the job you doing it for them they are probably coming up with more ammunition to fire at us from this forum than any other i know of we will shoot ourselves in the foot almost everything on here ends up in an argument only the other week i put up what someone had typed and got himself into trouble and i got slated this is why myself and others don't put up posts anymore there was some really good guys on here and they just look now like myself i was even asked do i have a license by one member but if he had looked at some of my posts from the past he would have seen where i used to put up posts of Boar Deer and did a lot of foxing by the way i still do but wont put up on here even the moderators stick up for the selected few Who are the selected few and specifically when have we "stuck up" for them? Pm one of us if you want but don't just make vague accusations please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Oh I do like reading these sort of posts, because it is possible to shoot rabbits at 200yds with a scoped match rifle such as an old BSA or Anschutz that has been set-up to shoot over that known distance. We had a warren in a bank that we knew was 185yds from our shooting hide, and with match ammo, that had been previously sighted in on a target on that bank, we could reliably drop rabbits with some consistency on a nice calm day. The one I really liked though was the lad on guntrader, who dropped a fox at 700yds with his .22Hornet..........................that he had sighted in at 150yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Rim Fire said: As i have said before you don't need the anties to do the job you doing it for them they are probably coming up with more ammunition to fire at us from this forum than any other i know of we will shoot ourselves in the foot almost everything on here ends up in an argument This seems to be a recurring theme in your posts. I think it's healthy for people to question what they may think to be unethical. It would give the antis as you call them far more to go on if group back slaps were handed out for every questionable shot as it would imply we all do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, walshie said: This seems to be a recurring theme in your posts. I think it's healthy for people to question what they may think to be unethical. It would give the antis as you call them far more to go on if group back slaps were handed out for every questionable shot as it would imply we all do the same. Well said Sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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