panoma1 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I am of the opinion that UK supporters shouldn't travel to Russia to support their national football team! I can't see how the Russians can guarantee their safety? The Russian fans have a reputation for violence (as in the past have ours!) I can't see the Russian authorities going out of their way to ensure violence doesn't happen! And can't see them intervening when (rather than if!) it does kick off! On this basis I think the F A and H M Government should seriously consider boycotting the World Cup and call on our EU and allies to do the same! What do others think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 It'll be a riot ...... Literally. The 2 big international superpowers of football violence in a politically charged setting? Disaster. No offence to the majority of football fans who genuinely love the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Totally agree you wouldn’t get me out there in a fit.I think it’s a terrible situation for the genuine football fans who want to go. but I can’t see us boycotting nor any of our European neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The Russians I've spoken to, are besotted with the football violence that used to happen in the UK, they think that there is glory in having a fight at a football game. They say that most don't even follow the game, but just go for the fighting. Even before all the political unrest, I would never consider going to Russia to watch any football game, I value my life too much. I think that some fans are going to be coming home in a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't believe we should boycott the football because of Salisbury but I do think a lot of our supporters will get a kicking out there its got to be up to the person who is going to decide for himself not the government sport and politics should not mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 let's be honest England's team won't be playing more than 3 games. Not WORTH going... Stay home, stay safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Surely in the current climate anyone with even half a brain would certainly stop away ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) I’m of the opinion they should be able to choose for themselves. Edited March 22, 2018 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Scully said: I’m of the opinion they should be able to choose for themselves. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Scully said: I’m of the opinion they should be able to choose for themselves. I don't think I suggested otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierra 11 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think it's important that British football fans should be represented in Russia..... . If all those convicted in the UK of football violence in the past 5 years were given free tickets and sent (by convoy) to the World Cup, would that help?....Perhaps not mmm? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Westley said: Surely in the current climate anyone with even half a brain would certainly stop away ? 57 minutes ago, Scully said: I’m of the opinion they should be able to choose for themselves. Darwinism at it's best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 There was a documentary a while back about Russian football fans, tgey would recruit by driving to remote locations meeting rivals fans and basically have a mass fight. They don't mess about.. They idolise the historic English football hooligan abd want to be better and more violent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 hours ago, panoma1 said: I don't think I suggested otherwise? First sentence of your initial post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 hours ago, strimmer_13 said: let's be honest England's team won't be playing more than 3 games. Not WORTH going... Stay home, stay safe Agreed. Having worked over there my advice .... Don't Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Why not stage a "free world cup"invite every country but Russia & leave them with jam on their faces . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Why bother with football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Scully said: First sentence of your initial post? I wrote "I am of the opinion"...........that would be expression of my opinion! Nowhere did I suggest supporters shouldn't be free to choose for themselves! If they choose to go knowing the possible risks..........that's their decision! Argumentative as ever I see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBettin Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Agree. It's asking for it going over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Westley said: Surely in the current climate anyone with even half a brain would certainly stop away ? Thats the thing really, most football thugs wouldnt be able to prove they were in possession of that much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelhall Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Scully said: I’m of the opinion they should be able to choose for themselves. I agree. As long as they accept it,s there choice and dont expect others to rescue them when things kick off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 hours ago, panoma1 said: Argumentative as ever I see! Only when it’s relevant. You suggested the FA and HMG and the EU nations should seriously consider boycotting the games. That doesn’t sound like you’re advocating freedom of choice; that sounds like quite the opposite! Unless I’ve read it wrong of course. I can’t understand adults who suggest other adults should or shouldn’t do anything, unless it’s already an offence of course. We’ve just had a small group of people telling Tesco they shouldn’t be selling red ‘hunting’ costumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 hours ago, squirrelhall said: I agree. As long as they accept it,s there choice and dont expect others to rescue them when things kick off I suspect that quite a few will not even see 'kick off' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Scully said: Only when it’s relevant. You suggested the FA and HMG and the EU nations should seriously consider boycotting the games. That doesn’t sound like you’re advocating freedom of choice; that sounds like quite the opposite! Unless I’ve read it wrong of course. I can’t understand adults who suggest other adults should or shouldn’t do anything, unless it’s already an offence of course. We’ve just had a small group of people telling Tesco they shouldn’t be selling red ‘hunting’ costumes. Try living in this neck of the woods. 'Football Fanatics' will tell you which newspapers to buy and even which football shirts to wear. Should they disapprove, they will campaign to have them removed from shop shelves. Most Newsagents will NOT sell a particular newspaper, or, it is kept hidden away under the counter. You have to actually witness it to believe it. So, a trip to Russia will seem like home from home to them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Westley said: Try living in this neck of the woods. 'Football Fanatics' will tell you which newspapers to buy and even which football shirts to wear. Should they disapprove, they will campaign to have them removed from shop shelves. Most Newsagents will NOT sell a particular newspaper, or, it is kept hidden away under the counter. You have to actually witness it to believe it. So, a trip to Russia will seem like home from home to them ! That'll be the Sun, you're not missing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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