chrisjpainter Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45855897 Desperately sad for all concerned, but I guess questions are going to be asked as to how it actually happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 As you say, desperately sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Very sad and thoughts with the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 I read 20 people in 3 years so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Very unfortune and very unlucky, hunters usually shoot each other in France! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 My brother is in France at the moment and the hunters are nuts (and like a drink) It's so bad that if a hunter gets injured the Paramedics will not go into the woods, The other hunters have to get the injured person to the nearest road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax666 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 It always amazes me how people meet their end, this poor fellow has gone all through life with every twist and turn life threw at him just to be going 3mph too slow at that point in his life when he got hit...very sad. I often fish in Devon and Cornwall for trout in small streams in remote areas and sometimes hear a "crack" and wonder bet he doesn't know I'm here. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 We are pretty lucky here in the UK although I have seen/witnessed a few dangerous shots in my time. This unfortunate person just happened to ride through a line of guns and was shot by a young man reported as 22yrs old. He is very likely spending a few years in a French prison as he has been charged with aggravated manslaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Very sad, and something I've always thought about when out shooting, especially taking long shots at night. A few years ago near me someone was fishing on the Dove with his son, 1 bullet impacts yards from both of them, they move pretty quick out of the wy behind a bank, then another shot. They ring the police and as they where reporting it another shot. The lad that was shooting had just got his 1st C.F. 22.250, he was practicing on his usual range that he used for his 22rf and had no idea what the problem was. He kept his rifle after an investigation but lost it some time later after he shot the roof of a car numerous times that was parked in a car park behind a large bank. ( not quite high enough to shield the car) There's few local to me tht my of heard about it. Edited October 14, 2018 by Dougy Bloomin predictive text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Very sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 There is a suggestion now this was not a stray bullet but he was actually targeted by the hunter thinking it was an animal!? It was apparently getting dark and it may have been mistaken identity, or just the media trying to make a story!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 My uncle once shot at a rabbit as it bolted into a hedge and peppered a courting couple who were lying canoodling on the other side. It was on his own land and miles from anywhere, so he had no reason at all to suspect that it might be a risky shot. But it just shows that you can never be too careful. 'All the pheasants ever bred...', etc ,etc as the rhyme goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 It’s tragic and one reason I like a thermal spotter even more at night as people can’t hide in the background as they stand out very clearly even when partially obscured by hedges etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, al4x said: It’s tragic and one reason I like a thermal spotter even more at night as people can’t hide in the background as they stand out very clearly even when partially obscured by hedges etc If the shooter was shooting into a wood the chances of hitting someone passing through are remote. The chances of hitting them fatally are even more remote. If he did not see him when he fired how did he know he hit him? I was thinking he maybe aimed at him mistaking him for quarry in which case thermal may not help. 2 hours ago, Dekers said: There is a suggestion now this was not a stray bullet but he was actually targeted by the hunter thinking it was an animal!? It was apparently getting dark and it may have been mistaken identity, or just the media trying to make a story!? This sounds more likely to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getthegat Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Bizarre sad accident. But with more people and less hunting ground, unfortunately this could become more common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, al4x said: It’s tragic and one reason I like a thermal spotter even more at night as people can’t hide in the background as they stand out very clearly even when partially obscured by hedges etc +1 ☝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Very tragic incident. Brings it home that we must positively identify our quarry and ensure that there is a safe back stop before releasing the round, it`s absolutely essential, at all times but we must be even more vigilant in falling twilight and night time conditions. FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 I’m down here for a few days sorting the house out- pesky sanglier have made their way through the reinforced fencing yet again. Best I don’t cycle down to the builders merchant then! Every year someone gets injured at the Chasse- one offender was a drunk policeman with a ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted October 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 hours ago, oowee said: If the shooter was shooting into a wood the chances of hitting someone passing through are remote. The chances of hitting them fatally are even more remote. If he did not see him when he fired how did he know he hit him? I was thinking he maybe aimed at him mistaking him for quarry in which case thermal may not help. This sounds more likely to me. The Times had it that he mistook a chap on a bike for a wild boar. I'm not altogether sure how you can confuse the two, but there you go. Would thermal imaging not give a clearer outline of the target though? I don't really know much about it, but I'd have thought you'd be able to pick up a heat pattern enough to tell a tall, thin shape compared to a short fat shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: The Times had it that he mistook a chap on a bike for a wild boar. I'm not altogether sure how you can confuse the two, but there you go. Would thermal imaging not give a clearer outline of the target though? I don't really know much about it, but I'd have thought you'd be able to pick up a heat pattern enough to tell a tall, thin shape compared to a short fat shape. Maybe he was on his bike at the time. You should be able to clearly identify the target in any the case, whatever method you are shooting. I would not be surprised to hear that he was actually using themal to shoot. One thing with thermal is you often see just a part of the target which can make it look like something else. Also depending on conditions it can be very hard to see the distance as the landscape may not be visible (if it were all the same temperature) so you would only see a heat mass in the scope with limited context. You are not allowed to use thermal for badgers on UK licence due to id issues although with some of the new thermal this may change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Thermal and night vision for hunting is banned here in France. The hunts are often in scrubland/ woodland and these guys react and swing at any movement either in bushes or on trails.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisjpainter said: The Times had it that he mistook a chap on a bike for a wild boar. I'm not altogether sure how you can confuse the two, but there you go. Would thermal imaging not give a clearer outline of the target though? I don't really know much about it, but I'd have thought you'd be able to pick up a heat pattern enough to tell a tall, thin shape compared to a short fat shape. If he was on his bike maybe his shape was confusing? If it was a straight shot then the shooter has no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Stay indoors, Jay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, oowee said: If he was on his bike maybe his shape was confusing? If it was a straight shot then the shooter has no excuse. On thermal I think the Shape would not resemble any wild animal. Would be a very odd shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: On thermal I think the Shape would not resemble any wild animal. Would be a very odd shape. See Jaymo's comment above 're thermal in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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