B725 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 As a thought regarding Washerboys post regarding drug culture why not send those who haven't got a job or no intension of getting a job do 2 year's national service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Never liked the idea, too many young suicides without lads getting drafted. A friend of mine did his national service in Portugal and its still I believe mandatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 But what if that gets the lazy ones to find a job or they have to do it, maybe it's a bit of order or disaplin is what they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, B725 said: As a thought regarding Washerboys post regarding drug culture why not send those who haven't got a job or no intension of getting a job do 2 year's national service. It does not have to be military service, however you will probably find the snowflakes will say It contravenes their 'uman rights to be made to work for the good of the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, B725 said: As a thought regarding Washerboys post regarding drug culture why not send those who haven't got a job or no intension of getting a job do 2 year's national service. Why when it will not do anything for the country or them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Fair enough what about doing some type of work for their free money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 It’s a nice idea, but would cost a fortune. Think of the employment costs and to cost of building accommodation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, B725 said: Fair enough what about doing some type of work for their free money Why again? if they don’t want to work you can’t make them I’m afraid 😟 but I do agree with you though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I was working through some information on employment statistics recently for work. One indicated raising the age at which you have to stay in education or training to 18 hadn''t reduced the labour force because it had been mirrored by raising retirement age to 67. So thats ok then we can reintroduce National Service if we all work an extra 2 years to pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Pity the poor **** who have to babysit the useless wasters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I’ve always been a strong supporter of reintroducing National Service. I have lots of Greek friends, who all have to do at least 18 months. Depending on which service they go into. And perhaps it will show the youth of today some respect, and a better work ethic than they currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Delwint said: I’ve always been a strong supporter of reintroducing National Service. I have lots of Greek friends, who all have to do at least 18 months. Depending on which service they go into. And perhaps it will show the youth of today some respect, and a better work ethic than they currently have. Why again? you can polish a **** but it’s still a **** with no manners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverforget Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, B725 said: As a thought regarding Washerboys post regarding drug culture why not send those who haven't got a job or no intension of getting a job do 2 year's national service. said it for years, i served and would do all the scroates good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 What makes you think the armed forces would want these people . They need people who can can wipe their own back sides and tie their own shoe laces . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Pity the poor **** who have to babysit the useless wasters! Yep. This subject came up decades ago and the Professionals said, NO WAY. The mindset of youngsters today is not like it was in the 50s when we all knew that we would have two briliant years courtesy of HMG and in all likelyhood get a chance to travel the world. I had a cousin who was a few months older than me and he was raised in a family pf bakers, so knew how to cook. He hit it big time and spent his whole 2yrs making meals for the troops as far afield as Hong Kong. I was really looking forward to my turn and then the powers that be stopped National Service just 8 weeks before I would be eligible. Everyone I met in my community back then said that they had a whale of a time and the stories they told made me even more envious. I really do not believe the general 17-18yr olds have got what it takes and better the military recruit those who have a genuine wish to be a professional soldier. Edited June 5, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Some of you make me laugh. national service for the unemployed get real would you want them to fight for your country nope because they don’t want to be there and don’t give two figs anyway better idea try getting the MP’S (government) to do national service first they bleed more from the country they people on the dole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 dont think it is a good idea to send the disaffected into the army...and learn how to shoot and kill............. i think it would be far better to invent something like British Aid Corps...something like that...where they would be fed and watered and work on aid projects all over the world in areas that need aid...then they will learn what it is and how damn lucky they are to be born British...and dealing and helping folk who have a nearly zero life expectancy i have mooted this point to several visiting bods from westminster when i worked abroad...and they all agree but.say it would be a none starter ...cause it would infringe human rights....would appear as forced labour .....they thought of every excuse possible............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I don't know what the answer is but there is no respect of people or property from a large proportion of younger folk. I would have done any type of work if only for my self respect. I cannot understand why they are like it may be just lack of discipline. As Ditchman has just said British Aid Corp would show them how the real world is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, martyn2233 said: Why again? you can polish a **** but it’s still a **** with no manners Why....... So it would show them there is no such thing as a free ride. Leaving school and signing on, claiming DLA when there’s nothing wrong with them. Working the system because John down the road has told him what to say to get it. If not National service then stick them in a Quarry breaking rocks. Get them litter picking. It’s the fannying around with people like these and no real deterrent for any of their actions, that makes this country as **** as it is!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Harnser said: What makes you think the armed forces would want these people . They need people who can can wipe their own back sides and tie their own shoe laces . harnser Absolutely spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 they cant make men out of chaves,they would cry to mummy in the old days they were men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 It just wouldn't work in this day and age. No respect for authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Surely a simpler option is community service not national service. If you are not employed and have no reason not to be e.g. disability, you are required to do for example 16 hours community service per week. Litter picking, path clearing etc, in return you get your benefits. Even if each of the people in receipt of benefits collected a single piece of litter per week, it would amount to huge amount over time. That way even if you don't work, everyone still is of some benefit to society as a whole no matter how small the contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just make them sweep the roads, if they want money then I want 8 hours of their day. If they get a better job then bye bye and good luck but sitting on their backsides is never an option. Anybody who wants money should be made to give up their time for it. 6 minutes ago, arm3000gt said: Surely a simpler option is community service not national service. If you are not employed and have no reason not to be e.g. disability, you are required to do for example 16 hours community service per week. Litter picking, path clearing etc, in return you get your benefits. Even if each of the people in receipt of benefits collected a single piece of litter per week, it would amount to huge amount over time. That way even if you don't work, everyone still is of some benefit to society as a whole no matter how small the contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 That's all well and good in theory. But what about the people who are employed to pick up litter or sweep the roads. You would be putting decent working people out of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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