redial Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) In the news again. I don't understand why the media when reporting always remind us of his previous name. This never happens when reporting on people in the film world/ singers etc. I am thinking of people like Elton John, Cliff Richard, Michael Caine and many others. Unless of course he hasn't changed his name officially. Edited July 6, 2019 by redial Error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbriar Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 What I object to is Tommy Robinson being described as "far right".........he isn't far right ! Mind you, he isn't far wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think in his case it's because of his history of using pseudonyms to distance himself from his history as a fraudster and petty criminal, whereas the others were trying to choose a stage name. Also, as you say, it could be the case that he hasnt changed his name by deed poll, and so Stephen Yaxley-Lennon remains his legal name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Don’t care what his real name is ,what I do care about is the amount of time and money wasted on trying to prosecute him ,I’m guessing by doing so all the rapist , grug dealers ,murderers ,terrorists ,peadophiles must be all locked up and our streets are safe to walk on again 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 As Zapp said, plus he is right wing/fascist agitator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 hours ago, redial said: In the news again. I don't understand why the media when reporting always remind us of his previous name. This never happens when reporting on people in the film world/ singers etc. I am thinking of people like Elton John, Cliff Richard, Michael Cain and many others. Unless of course he hasn't changed his name officially. Michael Caine too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, sam triple said: Don’t care what his real name is ,what I do care about is the amount of time and money wasted on trying to prosecute him ,I’m guessing by doing so all the rapist , grug dealers ,murderers ,terrorists ,peadophiles must be all locked up and our streets are safe to walk on again 🤔 What are you on about? If any of the criminals you mentioned committed their crime outside the front steps of a court house you don’t think they would be locked up? Your comparing someone publicly filming themselves breaking the law, after receiving warnings against the exact same thing, on the court steps, and broadcasting it to the world, to a murderer or rapist completely unknown to anyone, and then saying the Police / Justice system is wrong because those other criminals aren’t somehow magically identified and placed in prison? 🤷♂️ Lets hope this logic kicks in, and all criminals start videoing themselves and publicly broadcasting it along with their location and full ID details. Itll save Police billions in their evidence gathering investigations and attempts to identify criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) He reported the news about some rapists going to court to highlight the truth of the situation .and made a video about it and posted it on social media . Exactly the same as every other reporter from any news network is doing every day around the world .BUT because he is who he is .and the dangerous string pullers at the top of the chain dont like that he is exposing their agendas then have him silenced . Make no mistake- to find tommy "guilty "of this trumped up charge is a warning to us all .that the freedoms we once took for granted have gone and you will "tow the line or be punished " Edited July 6, 2019 by Ultrastu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 What don't you understand about"reporting restrictions"? Same as TR apparently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 What dont you understand about .making up daft rules to silence your opponents ,and only implementing them on 1 person when hundreds of others are" guilty "of exactly the same thing arent charged .? And then giving a 2 year custodial sentance,probably in max security prison. Sounds like the communist state of britain But i guess your happy with that eh? Ask your self also why were there reporting restrictions on these rapists cases ? . The info was already in the public domain long before his report. So he broke no new news that day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 There were restrictions to protect people and correct legal process, without that the law is subverted and the guilty could go free, he stepped over the line and now is getting just reward for his narcissistic self promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Yeah, but do you think he can be rehabilitated? Don't you think that he should be entered into some kind of program, to help him see the error of his ways and that prison should be a last resort? Surley we should try and help him before a custodial sentence is even thought about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Protect the grooming gang rapists from a reporter ? And the "correct " legal process that lets rapists off scot free ? The british legal system is a farce and this case shows it as such how do you not see that .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 He jeopardized their trial. They might have walked because of his antics. I want child rapists locked up, not have their cases thrown out for the sake of a bit of publicity for TR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) By law you can use whatever name you like without legally changing it, so people referring to him by his "real name" are actually mistaken. I agree his stunts were stupid in that he could have jeopardised cases by doing what he did. I'm no fan of his or his loutish followers but it makes me sick to see the same old people decrying everything he does and referring to him as a fascist without saying one word about the rapey scum he is protesting about. Being described as a fascist, or being an actual rapist. Which is worse? Edited July 6, 2019 by walshie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, walshie said: By law you can use whatever name you like without legally changing it, so people referring to him by his "real name" are actually mistaken. I agree his stunts were stupid in that he could have jeopardised cases by doing what he did. I'm no fan of his or his loutish followers but it makes me sick to see the same old people decrying everything he does and referring to him as a fascist without saying one word about the rapey scum he is protesting about. Being described as a fascist, or being an actual rapist. Which is worse? I agree totally with this but would add to the quote "Momentum" (formally know as militant tendency) or are they the ones promoting the fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, walshie said: Being described as a fascist, or being an actual rapist. Which is worse? Ill hazard a bet that theres a good few people who would give the wrong answer to that question. But like the word 'racist' , fascist is just another one of the words bandied about these days with careless abandon. Most people using it dont even know what it means, theyve just been bought up on WW2 movies , and they know 'nazis' are bad people. This isnt a thumbs up to fascism, its a system as unlikely to work as communism, but weirdly, the latter doesnt get the bad press of the former, despite the higher death toll. To say that TR is a fascist has absolutely no basis in fact however, like what he says or not, there is nothing to pin that particular label to him, call him a racist if you will, but to automatically tie him to the other is pretty foolish. There are actually plenty of people who believe he has ties and support to Israeli interests, I wonder if they think of him as their pet nazi? I would look up the definition of fascism, it makes interesting reading, and the description of its method is far more closely tied to the people most like to use the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 hours ago, walshie said: By law you can use whatever name you like without legally changing it, so people referring to him by his "real name" are actually mistaken. I agree his stunts were stupid in that he could have jeopardised cases by doing what he did. I'm no fan of his or his loutish followers but it makes me sick to see the same old people decrying everything he does and referring to him as a fascist without saying one word about the rapey scum he is protesting about. Being described as a fascist, or being an actual rapist. Which is worse? I'll tell you what, self promotion by any means, they have been given due process, their cases were reported by the press, done deal, to keep harping on about it does nothing for anyone except the self righteous ranters, and that is what TR wants, stir the pot again, keep the hatred seething. That's just as bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, henry d said: That's just as bad! As raping kids ? OK, case proven. 2 hours ago, walshie said: Being described as a fascist, or being an actual rapist. Which is worse? 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: Ill hazard a bet that theres a good few people who would give the wrong answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 hours ago, henry d said: As Zapp said, plus he is right wing/fascist agitator. He is also a thug . harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 He knew what he was doing was wrong, but went ahead and did it. He sought publicity and got it. He has to face the consequences of his actions. That said, he is slated for basically telling the truth. He has a very narrow range of which subjects he speaks about and his motives are clearly open to question. His background and past behaviour do his credibility little good, but tell me if he is lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the court he was outside broadcasting from they had already been found guilty, they were just appearing for sentencing.? If so, how could he jeopardize a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 I just google him. I honestly don’t understand what he did wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: I just google him. I honestly don’t understand what he did wrong. From what I have read, This was the second of 3 trials and the reporting restrictions were in place until all the 3 trials were finished, The defence almost succeeded in forcing a retrial because of Tommy's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 He chose to ignore warnings, so it is hard to feel any sympathy for him whatsoever. I suspect he wouldn't want sympathy. He sought and got publicity, in a very calculated manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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