Westley78 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Guys, I revived another Covid-19 email updating as to what a certain shoot organiser is doing. Within the email was this: In addition we face another review of the General Licences under which we shoot pigeons and other ‘pest’ species. It’s possible we’ll see ever more restrictions on the shooting of pigeons, perhaps a close season, maybe even an outright ban so we are currently not taking any bookings for pigeon shooting that might take place after 01st August 2020 until we know more. I am therefore interested to hear what everyone’s opinion is, do you think Pigeon shoot will get banned or restricted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 No, just opinion of a sporting agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 retrictions are creeping in,on the gov.uk site it now states sa with a maximum of 3 shots can be used for taking birds,,,so anyone usein an fac one will be illegal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley78 Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, PPP said: No, just opinion of a sporting agent That was my first thought.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, hawkfanz said: retrictions are creeping in,on the gov.uk site it now states sa with a maximum of 3 shots can be used for taking birds,,,so anyone usein an fac one will be illegal now. Have you got a link for that as I’ve just checked the March 2020 GL for woodpigeon and that explicitly states you can use FAC semi auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) I think some are correctly reading what is in Thatcher's "Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981" s5(1)(c)iii and then somehow confusing that with shooting woodpigeons. Edited March 25, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 https://www.gov.uk/hunting/Birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 It has been the case for many years that you cant shoot game with a shotgun with a magazine of more than 2 rounds, this is not 'creeping legislation' on the control of pigeons' enfieldspares is totally correct David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, David BASC said: It has been the case for many years that you cant shoot game with a shotgun with a magazine of more than 2 rounds, this is not 'creeping legislation' on the control of pigeons' enfieldspares is totally correct David There's so many ifs and buts creeping in daily . Farmers are facing massive losses now with the loss of last of Last winters crops due to the weather we've had . Now we're back to last year's mess after the general license fiasco. Spring crops are finally going in where possible and we can't carry out control on the pigeons and corvids again. We're in devastating times now I just hope we come through . Hopefully our representatives can put some extra effort into a final solution once and for all. That's all we ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Nothing about how many shots it can't hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 I agree there is an issue with crop protection at the moment and BASC is waiting for DEFRA to come back with clarification, as soon as we have more news it will be on the BASC web site David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameking Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Most Section 1 shotguns were granted by virtue of 'avian pest control' as the primary 'good reason' . (you could also then use same for PSG and clays with those appropriate conditions specified.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Gameking said: Most Section 1 shotguns were granted by virtue of 'avian pest control' as the primary 'good reason' . This. Mine is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 26/03/2020 at 12:19, Gameking said: Most Section 1 shotguns were granted by virtue of 'avian pest control' as the primary 'good reason' . This, mine was granted on the condition of 'flock control' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 26/03/2020 at 11:10, David BASC said: I agree there is an issue with crop protection at the moment and BASC is waiting for DEFRA to come back with clarification, as soon as we have more news it will be on the BASC web site David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On March 26, 2020 at 09:03, David BASC said: It has been the case for many years that you cant shoot game with a shotgun with a magazine of more than 2 rounds, this is not 'creeping legislation' on the control of pigeons' enfieldspares is totally correct David Quite right David my father and our past game keeper taught me the right way to shoot and have done so for many years here..the agents often ask me for vermin shooting mostly pigeon to sell to people as membership I could do that myself for monetary needs. These org should be restricted (although they have freedom of speech etc) from giving their opinions on the as yet revealed forthcoming wildlife and countryside act 1981 (amended 2020) act .. and are causing worry to all.. NB.... .it has been dealt with the law has been agreed temp and will be published and ..released out to trial in June.If working .as agreed by all then a full roll out in January 2021 ... That is if the present emergency powers are lifted and we are given .. all clear. So David you are right..stay safe ...Clay Shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 26 March 2020 at 11:10, David BASC said: I agree there is an issue with crop protection at the moment and BASC is waiting for DEFRA to come back with clarification, as soon as we have more news it will be on the BASC web site David David, is it not possible please to use the BASC members emailing service for this important clarification? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 TBH - when this is all over I think the world will have a lot more to think about than Pigeon shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 No. The worst case scenario is that the number of shooters will be reduced to those prepared to acquire the necessary qualifications and obtain the appropriate licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 21 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: This, mine was granted on the condition of 'flock control' Are you a Vicar ? Is it to get them into the church or get them out of it.😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I had, back after the 1988 legislation, a Browning Auto-5 in 16 Bore on my FAC for flocking birds (seagulls) over my pond. It remained so until I sold it in (the pond) about 2001 or thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 26/03/2020 at 11:10, David BASC said: I agree there is an issue with crop protection at the moment and BASC is waiting for DEFRA to come back with clarification, as soon as we have more news it will be on the BASC web site David Looking fwd with bated breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I have started a separate thread re update from DEFRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 so reading basc webb site, the reel answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 What is this thread actually discussing? Covid 19 or GLs? My answer related to GLs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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