Labour MP for Heanor is glad BJ has the virus

[loriusgarrulus]

Life is too short to go round hating people just because they support different politics or religion etc.

Much better to chill. Live life to the full and enjoy life, but do no harm.

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, has there been any reaction from those citizens living in  Heanor???????????

[Retsdon]

She doesn't seem to be very bright, which is not surprising as apparently empathy is closely linked to intelligence. In any event, it's not a political issue so much as a personal one. I'm sure if Corbyn or whoever had caught the virus there'd  be some idiot the right of the political spectrum equally lacking in empathy who could be relied on to say pretty much the same thing - especially if Corbyn had been responsible for the somewhat tardy response to the the threat this virus poses. That she holds political office is a worry though ... it just illustrates what low calibre people go into politics these days.

Anyway, I suppose he dopey comment gives everyone a chance to line up and get a kick in. And that's always fun.

[Newbie to this]

2 minutes ago, Retsdon said:

She doesn't seem to be very bright, which is not surprising as apparently empathy is closely linked to intelligence. In any event, it's not a political issue so much as a personal one. I'm sure if Corbyn or whoever had caught the virus there'd  be some idiot the right of the political spectrum equally lacking in empathy who could be relied on to say pretty much the same thing - especially if Corbyn had been responsible for the somewhat tardy response to the the threat this virus poses. That she holds political office is a worry though ... it just illustrates what low calibre people go into politics these days.

Anyway, I suppose he dopey comment gives everyone a chance to line up and get a kick in. And that's always fun.

That's a very subtle way of saying you agree with her.

[WalkedUp]

6 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

That's a very subtle way of saying you agree with her.

I must have lost the nuance of Retsdon’s writing because I did not get that impression by any means.

Edited April 8, 2020 by WalkedUp

[Newbie to this]

52 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

I must have lost the nuance of Retsdon’s writing because I did not get that impression by any means. I’ve been anti Labour for a wee while, but just a suggestion: often we see what we want to see. 

I may have got it wrong. It just read to me like justifying it by saying, well if it was Corbyn the 'right' would have said similar. Then the, especially if he had been responsible for the tardy response to the virus bit, for me just reinforced my initial thought.

Not to mention the bit about lining up to put the boot in.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Newbie to this

[WalkedUp]

No worries 👍

[B725]

If there's ever been a time for all political persuasions to come together and work as one it's now. Making stupid comments public like she did is just moronic, at least she is no longer a Labour councillor don't know if she is still the Mayor if she is she should be booted out immediately. 

[Retsdon]

50 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

I may have got it wrong.

Hmmn.

 

50 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

especially if he had been responsible for the tardy response to the virus bit, for me just reinforced my initial thought.

Why? The government response was tardy. That's why, for example,  it has taken so long to get proper PPE to health workers on the front line. How you can deduce from that simple observation with a wish of personal harm on the Prime Minister is beyond me. But never mind...

And the reason I mentioned it, was that it might possibly be the cause of high feelings which gave rise to the woman's stupid statement. Nothing to do with my own personal view of Johnson at all. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Retsdon

[Spoon]

14 hours ago, JJsDad said:

The Labour Party is investigating !

Thats political speak for lets sweep this under the carpet quick and hope not to many people have read her disgusting comments. The woman is a Troll and should be treated as such.

Isn't that how you treat trolls? Cut them down and don't let what they've said echo to minimise their impact.

10 hours ago, Lord v said:

There also seems to be growing intolerance of any dissention from the 'right' think for your side. You must toe the line on all issues or your entire argument is now invalid. You can no longer be a Labour supporter but think the Tories may have a point on revamping local authorities or a Tory and think Labour have a point on additional support for renters. You have to be all or nothing and to make sure you are never questioned it's a good idea to double down on the right think. This becomes a perfect storm as everyone rushes to out do each other to 'prove' their loyalty. 

This is a good point that is missed by too many on the left and the right. People root for teams, regardless of what that means. As a leftie I've been told off for laughing at the "Labour bad, Conservative good" spiel from family. I tend to approach things from a "everyone sucks, lets find the good amongst the pile" using my political views\lens, which gets spun as being a Labour supporting (regardless of what I think of them) brainwashed under 50 who doesn't have the life experience to know better.

I'm not a Boris fan, but anyone wishing ill on him is a massive spanner and its profoundly unprofessional to do so if you're in politics.

[the hitman]

1 hour ago, loriusgarrulus said:

Life is too short to go round hating people just because they support different politics or religion etc.

Much better to chill. Live life to the full and enjoy life, but do no harm.

Excellent advice - good post.

Hitman

 

 

[Newbie to this]

14 minutes ago, Retsdon said:

And the reason I mentioned it, was that it might possibly be the cause of high feelings which gave rise to the woman's stupid statement. Nothing to do with my own personal view of Johnson at all. 

That's kind of my point, subtly your comment is trying to justify it.

Hinting there is a reason, no matter how misguided it is, for the comments she made.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Newbie to this

[TRINITY]

I once joined the labour party for reasons other than politics (too complex to explain) . I got in to its inner workings and found the following.

To show your hatred for the Tories is seen as a badge of honour. The more you can show your hatred the more influence and respect you are given. The other main trait is that you must believe you have a right to everything and it is up to others and not yourself to support you and your needs. 

Suffice to say the experiment did not last long and I could not get out fast enough.

[udderlyoffroad]

1 hour ago, Retsdon said:

And the reason I mentioned it, was that it might possibly be the cause of high feelings which gave rise to the woman's stupid statement. Nothing to do with my own personal view of Johnson at all. 

You're still defending, or putting up mitigating circumstances of, the indefensible.

Actually, if you read her post in full:

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Sorry, he completely deserves this and he is one of the worst PMs we’ve ever had.

It shows a complete lack of critical thinking - how can she possibly make such a sweeping statement?  He's barely been in post a year.  A lot of the policies being implemented will still be from the late Cameron/early May era.

 

1 hour ago, TRINITY said:

I once joined the labour party for reasons other than politics (too complex to explain) . I got in to its inner workings and found the following.

To show your hatred for the Tories is seen as a badge of honour. The more you can show your hatred the more influence and respect you are given. The other main trait is that you must believe you have a right to everything and it is up to others and not yourself to support you and your needs. 

Suffice to say the experiment did not last long and I could not get out fast enough.

That's pretty worrying.  How recently was this?  Every party attracts a good proportion of 'swivel-eyed loons' to use the phrase that was in-vogue 10 years ago, but the higher ups long ago realised that this was a massive turn-off for the electorate.  Mind you, seems like Momentum didn't get that memo..

[amateur]

1 hour ago, TRINITY said:

I once joined the labour party for reasons other than politics (too complex to explain) . ......

Was a woman involved? Were you trying to get into a leftie's knickers?

[TRINITY]

3 minutes ago, amateur said:

Was a woman involved? Were you trying to get into a leftie's knickers?

Tut tut 😁😁😁😁😁

[Walker570]

Nothing terribly complex about that subject.

12 minutes ago, amateur said:

Was a woman involved? Were you trying to get into a leftie's knickers?

 

[TRINITY]

23 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said:

You're still defending, or putting up mitigating circumstances of, the indefensible.

Actually, if you read her post in full:

It shows a complete lack of critical thinking - how can she possibly make such a sweeping statement?  He's barely been in post a year.  A lot of the policies being implemented will still be from the late Cameron/early May era.

 

That's pretty worrying.  How recently was this?  Every party attracts a good proportion of 'swivel-eyed loons' to use the phrase that was in-vogue 10 years ago, but the higher ups long ago realised that this was a massive turn-off for the electorate.  Mind you, seems like Momentum didn't get that memo..

Not that long , I got close to the inner circles and I also got close to local leaders and MP,s . When they think your one of them they show your their true colours. The thing that worried me most is that to get to a certain level you have to swear total allegiance to the party. That includes the fact that if you see serious wrong doing or something you feel is totally morally in correct you must ignore it and back the party . That comes first at all costs .

[The Heron]

What a @*#&% bitch I hope it comes back to bite her on her big fat ****. 

[mel b3]

19 hours ago, derbyduck said:

she should be flogged through every Town in Britain for Treason !

This 

19 hours ago, loriusgarrulus said:

Dispicable woman. Whatever your political beliefs, wishing potential death on anyone is beyond it. She should be sacked.

This

18 hours ago, Dougy said:

What a horrible childish thing to say, she has to have something wrong with her head. 

Nasty piece of dirt. 

This

16 hours ago, lancer425 said:

That is pure badness. Evil no other word for it. .

This

5 hours ago, Centrepin said:

What a vile individual.

And this.

We all have deranged thoughts from time to time , but your should never allow cack like that, dribble out of your mouth.

Swivel eyed loon is bang on the money👍.

[Vince Green]

16 hours ago, Scully said:

I just don’t get this Labour hatred of the Conservatives. Is it the burning resentment they have for what they perceive to be the privileged upper classes? It can’t be the jealousy of wealth because there are many champagne socialists with an equally unfathomable chip on their shoulders, and there are more than a few former labour politicians whom have become everything they claim to resent about privileged tories. 

Just today my OH was having a rant about a good friend of hers who has made masks, at her own expense, for those who need them.  She is a self employed jeweller who doesn’t need to rely on her own work for a living as her husband flies all over the world conducting business for some high brow company he works for, and is paid accordingly. She herself comes from a wealthy and privileged background, but had told my OH that she would stop making masks if she thought ‘ that ******* Boris’ was going to benefit from one! 
OH was really annoyed. What is wrong with people? 

Having been involved in the trade union movement when I was younger, I was always amazed at how bitter and twisted the views of many of the activists were that I encountered.. 

3 hours ago, TRINITY said:

I once joined the labour party for reasons other than politics (too complex to explain) . I got in to its inner workings and found the following.

To show your hatred for the Tories is seen as a badge of honour. The more you can show your hatred the more influence and respect you are given. The other main trait is that you must believe you have a right to everything and it is up to others and not yourself to support you and your needs. 

Suffice to say the experiment did not last long and I could not get out fast enough.

This ^^^^

[Cheshirelad]

17 hours ago, Scully said:

I just don’t get this Labour hatred of the Conservatives. Is it the burning resentment they have for what they perceive to be the privileged upper classes? It can’t be the jealousy of wealth because there are many champagne socialists with an equally unfathomable chip on their shoulders, and there are more than a few former labour politicians whom have become everything they claim to resent about privileged tories .... <snip>.

 

Mention the word Tory in Liverpool, and you're liable to get lynched. I have never come across a more bitter, twisted and depraved bunch of leftie idiots in my life.

Oh, and in case anybody asks, yes - I'm a Scouser.

 

[TRINITY]

Let's face it,the lower working classes were treated like dirt in the Victorian era and the early 1900,s. That lead to the rise of trade unions and the labour movement. In all fairness it was needed back then. However the sheer hatred of upper and middle classes is totally ingrained with some and will never be forgotten. Its passed on down the generations and the hatred never diminishes or tempers. You can see it with the Irish who still bang on about Oliver Cromwell, William of orange etc. 

I dont think the hatred will ever diminish it will just fester and get deeper. However there is still hope as the more rational will accept the injustice of the past but still move on and live with the present. It's a good job we can otherwise we would all be moaning about  William the conqueror.

[Newbie to this]

35 minutes ago, TRINITY said:

Let's face it,the lower working classes were treated like dirt in the Victorian era and the early 1900,s. That lead to the rise of trade unions and the labour movement. In all fairness it was needed back then. However the sheer hatred of upper and middle classes is totally ingrained with some and will never be forgotten. Its passed on down the generations and the hatred never diminishes or tempers. You can see it with the Irish who still bang on about Oliver Cromwell, William of orange etc. 

I dont think the hatred will ever diminish it will just fester and get deeper. However there is still hope as the more rational will accept the injustice of the past but still move on and live with the present. It's a good job we can otherwise we would all be moaning about  William the conqueror.

And them pesky Romans, what have the Romans ever done for us?

[Dave-G]

3 hours ago, Vince Green said:

Having been involved in the trade union movement when I was younger, I was always amazed at how bitter and twisted the views of many of the activists were that I encountered.. 

This ^^^^

I got escorted off two building sites for refusing to join closed shops. I was told on the quiet it was for my own protection and the companies could not ensure my safety.