NoBodyImportant Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 hours ago, JDog said: Don't you have the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and the Gulf of Mexico and a tight border with Canada? Canada’s border mostly unguarded, and the Mexican border is a 3 string barb wire cattle fence. But it’s getting better. We are building a wall as we speak. 10 hours ago, Vince Green said: The border with canada is not tight there are thousands of miles where there is no physical border at all. But Canadians and US citizens have free access both ways This, Canada has roughly the same quality of life as the USA. So Canadians cross the border get cheap gas and food and drive back. Same with Americans, we drive across and come back freely with cheap lumber. Since 911 the crossings near city’s will have a check point but there is not a fence or real barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Doesn’t Britain have the largest navy in the world behind the USA. I feel like if the powers to be wanted to they could patrol the channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: Doesn’t Britain have the largest navy in the world behind the USA. I feel like if the powers to be wanted to they could patrol the channel. USA is about third biggest navy in the world, Britain is way down the list, after Brexit is finally done our Navy is going to be busy keeping hundreds of French, Spanish, Dutch and Danish trawlers from illegally fishing in our waters. Its going to be a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: Doesn’t Britain have the largest navy in the world behind the USA. I feel like if the powers to be wanted to they could patrol the channel. I'm sorry to say the UK has gone soft and doesn't have the stomach to deal with the problem. It's not just the UK, it's many westernised countries. Having said that, I would wish anyone trying to get to NZ by boat, the very best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: Doesn’t Britain have the largest navy in the world behind the USA. I feel like if the powers to be wanted to they could patrol the channel. They can and do patrol the channel, unfortunately they just aren't allowed to do what's necessary. 31 minutes ago, Vince Green said: USA is about third biggest navy in the world, Britain is way down the list, after Brexit is finally done our Navy is going to be busy keeping hundreds of French, Spanish, Dutch and Danish trawlers from illegally fishing in our waters. Its going to be a war. I hope it's not going to be war, but its certainly time our waters were just that, with our trawlers catching our fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 if the weak kneed government can’t stop a few dinghies what is their response to a load of trawlers stripping our fish stocks going to be please stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Hello, I see Banksy the secret painter has bought a boat to rescue illegal immigrants in the channel, would that be taking them back to France 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I see Banksy the secret painter has bought a boat to rescue illegal immigrants in the channel, would that be taking them back to France 🤔 The boat is rescuing immigrants in the Mediterranean not the Channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) A lot of the Spanish trawlers have already said they cannot stop fishing in British waters after Brexit. Its not possible for them to catch enough fish to pay their way anywhere further south. Their whole business model involves not only fishing in British waters but blatantly exceeding their legal quotas many times over. Its not possible to run a boat that big for that many days out at sea by only catching what they are supposed to be catching. But when they get back to their home port no questions are asked about where all this fish has come from Every body knows it, the Cornish fishermen have been complaining for years but we only have three fishery protection vessels. Averagely two at sea at any time. With mobile phones that work at sea now the position of those two fishery protection vessels is known to all the foreign trawlers in British waters all the time. So the deterrent factor is zero. No British trawlers fish in Spanish waters so its hardly a reciprocal arrangement Edited August 28, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Vince Green said: USA is about third biggest navy in the world, Britain is way down the list, after Brexit is finally done our Navy is going to be busy keeping hundreds of French, Spanish, Dutch and Danish trawlers from illegally fishing in our waters. Its going to be a war. After looking it up I’m surprised North Korea has the world’s largest navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 9 hours ago, AVB said: The boat is rescuing immigrants in the Mediterranean not the Channel. Hello, ok thanks to clarify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: After looking it up I’m surprised North Korea has the world’s largest navy. Better to have quality than quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Better to have quality than quantity Better if Korea looked after its citizens first instead of leaving them starve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 14 hours ago, AVB said: The boat is rescuing immigrants in the Mediterranean not the Channel. It seems that the Banksy boat has become 'unable to move' and none of the European countries are helping; now there's a surprise! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8676619/Banksy-funded-refugee-rescue-boat-s-calls-help-ignored.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Vince Green said: Their whole business model involves not only fishing in British waters but blatantly exceeding their legal quotas many times over. Which is why, regardless of how Farage and UKIP tried to portray it as, that any fish not on a boat's quota manifest was made, by Fishery protection patrols, to be thrown back into the sea to prevent such, literally, "old Spanish customs". Elsewise there'd always be the excuse that the boat was fishing for "X" but "accidentally" caught "Y" and so as that catch is now on board it'd be such a shame to allow it to be wasted. Edited August 29, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 If as reported, the "Artist" Banksy is paying for a boat that is collecting illegal immigrants in the Mediterranean, should he be liable for their care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: If as reported, the "Artist" Banksy is paying for a boat that is collecting illegal immigrants in the Mediterranean, should he be liable for their care? The people his boat rescued have now had to be rescued from his boat. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/banksy-funded-migrant-rescue-boat-helped-by-italian-coastguard-after-it-became-stranded-in-mediterranean-sea-12059020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 So the Italians have rescued the occupants of the listing boat ? Will Banksy or the Italians clothe and feed them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, armsid said: Will Banksy or the Italians clothe and feed them? Neither, would be my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 200 economic migrants on the Banksy Boat. Now the UN is seeking help. I wonder if the invisible graffiti merchant regards this as a success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 No doubt he'll come riding on his white charger to sort it all out ...............no thought not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Its OK, Banksy will get his stencils and spray cans out again, graffiti some wall somewhere with deep and meaningful message, and the world will fawn over his brilliance and all will be forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 29/08/2020 at 01:07, NoBodyImportant said: After looking it up I’m surprised North Korea has the world’s largest navy. I wonder if they would lend us a few ships 22 hours ago, armsid said: So the Italians have rescued the occupants of the listing boat ? Will Banksy or the Italians clothe and feed them? Italy is having some success with picking them up while still at sea and taking them straight back to Lybia. Thats the way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 17:35, Vince Green said: No you are fundamentally wrong in what you say. WE don't allow them to come, THE FRENCH allow them to come. Lets not lose sight of that very important fact We are being shafted by the French and they are loving it. If the French were doing what they were supposed to do the migrants wouldn't be sitting in Calais in the first place Sorry Bud - I must have misunderstood where you were coming from!! And I fully agree with what you say there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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