washerboy Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, discobob said: Well, all I can say is that I wouldn't climb over this one to get any of you because of tattoos 😂 Yes a pretty woman and nice ink doesn't spoil her either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, grrclark said: Why if it is that person's choice to have a "Stupid" tattoo on their forehead? Why should 'society' judge that to be unacceptable? If it is the individual's choice, it does not take advantage of anyone else against their will, why is it unacceptable? We might think it is actually stupid, in this example I do too, but it's wrong to say that it is socially unacceptable. Society may look at middle aged to older men, in the majority, wearing tweed, clinging to old traditions and shooting animals for fun as being totally unacceptable; It perhaps, increasingly, is doing exactly that. That's the problem when we make statements based on nothing other than subjective consideration of our own very narrow point of view on what is acceptable or otherwise. You misunderstand my meaning. I did not mean the ‘stupid’ was unacceptable, but all tattoos. Just my opinion, and a large part of the rest of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, grrclark said: Why if it is that person's choice to have a "Stupid" tattoo on their forehead? Why should 'society' judge that to be unacceptable? If it is the individual's choice, it does not take advantage of anyone else against their will, why is it unacceptable? We might think it is actually stupid, in this example I do too, but it's wrong to say that it is socially unacceptable. Society may look at middle aged to older men, in the majority, wearing tweed, clinging to old traditions and shooting animals for fun as being totally unacceptable; It perhaps, increasingly, is doing exactly that. That's the problem when we make statements based on nothing other than subjective consideration of our own very narrow point of view on what is acceptable or otherwise. Graham, I admire the chaps honesty, and he demonstrates substantially poor judgement in his choice. One question, would you employ him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Graham, I admire the chaps honesty, and he demonstrates substantially poor judgement in his choice. One question, would you employ him? In my (and yours Dave) day - they would have had no chance to get in the military - nowadays I am not so sure!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, London Best said: You misunderstand my meaning. I did not mean the ‘stupid’ was unacceptable, but all tattoos. Just my opinion, and a large part of the rest of society. Ah OK, all tattoos are socially unacceptable? 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Graham, I admire the chaps honesty, and he demonstrates substantially poor judgement in his choice. One question, would you employ him? Depends on the job he would be doing Dave. I have employed plenty people with tattoos, including head and neck ones, although admittedly never one with "Stupid" inked on their head. I did employ a guy who had "Made in Scotland" tattooed on his napper, he was a welder in a fab shop. If he was client facing then that would have been different, so horses for courses really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, grrclark said: Ah OK, all tattoos are socially unacceptable? If he was client facing then that would have been different, so horses for courses really. Because they are not socially acceptable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 More like your way of thinking is socially unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, strimmer_13 said: More like your way of thinking is socially unacceptable. We are all entitled to an opinion Sir, me included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, London Best said: We are all entitled to an opinion Sir, me included. You're absolutely right, everyone is entitled to an opinion, however not everyone's opinion is of equal worth or merit. I may be as bold to say that airing ill considered and poorly conceived opinion in a public forum should not be socially acceptable. 1 hour ago, London Best said: Because they are not socially acceptable! Men in tweed shooting animals for fun is not socially acceptable, discuss. Same principle applies, when someone makes a subjective consideration of what is acceptable or not based on their own very narrow value system there is a potential consequence. We the shooting community are living breathing evidence of that right now and we don't half crow about how those making the judgement are too ignorant to bother trying to understand. Yet here we are doing the exact same thing. You'd think that we might be savvy enough to draw a parallel of why being judgemental of others, with whom we might not agree or understand, is really a bit backwards. People being dismissive and judgemental about others with tattoos is far more socially corrosive than those who have tattoos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, grrclark said: People being dismissive and judgemental about others with tattoos is far more socially corrosive than those who have tattoos. In your opinion, of course. Nevertheless, London Best has claimed in other posts that if you use genuine Land Rover parts they don't leak. This makes him a bounder and a cad in my opinion. 😁 My sister, who is many respects very different from me, has a lot of tattoos. She was surprised when she visited the more...conservative parts of the USA that she didn't quite the sterling customer service the majority of us receive when we go there. I'm not entirely sure what she was expecting. And she does complain about being awfully hot when she is obliged to cover all her visible tattoos at work. No thanks, no tattoos for me Edited September 25, 2020 by udderlyoffroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 hours ago, London Best said: A waste of a beautiful girl. Just my opinion. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) My upbringing, training and career has been to follow the family profession, to become an aesthete. I see beauty in form and craftsmanship - I dislike decoration and ornamentation, be that on a gun or woman. To my eye a beautifully grained piece of wood cut and finished to show that is fantastic, it shows years of growth and development then craftsmanship to finish. A laser etched Beretta (such as mine) is ugly as it is applied rather than inherent. A game scene often ruins a gun for me. A jacket is beautiful because of its cut, material and craft - not its lurid pattern. Architecture ain’t paint. Overt decoration without purpose detracts rather than enhances beauty. What I see as beauty is no more valid or greater than yours. Their is no hierarchy to taste, just a celebration of difference. Edited September 25, 2020 by WalkedUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: In your opinion, of course. Nevertheless, London Best has claimed in other posts that if you use genuine Land Rover parts they don't leak. This makes him a bounder and a cad in my opinion. 😁 My sister, who is many respects very different from me, has a lot of tattoos. She was surprised when she visited the more...conservative parts of the USA that she didn't quite the sterling customer service the majority of us receive when we go there. I'm not entirely sure what she was expecting. And she does complain about being awfully hot when she is obliged to cover all her visible tattoos at work. No thanks, no tattoos for me I think that history bears reasonable testimony that the people who take polarised stances towards are very often the more corrosive elements, but none the less yes it is of course an opinion. Odd that your sisters experience around tattoos in the US has been like that, i have found that even in the rather paranoid bible belt states that most don't really care about tatt's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: My upbringing, training and career has been to follow the family profession, to become an aesthete. I see beauty in form and craftsmanship - I dislike decoration and ornamentation, be that on a gun or woman. To my eye a beautifully grained piece of wood is fantastic, it shows years of growth and development then craftsmanship to finish. A laser etched Beretta (such as mine) is ugly as it is applied rather than inherent. A game scene often ruins a gun for me. A jacket is beautiful because of its cut, material and craft - not its lurid pattern. Architecture ain’t paint. Overt decoration without purpose detracts rather than enhances beauty. What I see as beauty is no more valid or greater than yours. Their is no hierarchy to taste, just a celebration of difference. I could not agree more. The fact that people do or don't like tattoos is completely personal to them, as is ones perception of beauty or style. I simply think it is wrong to make broad brush judgemental remarks on others because it doesn't fit with your perception. Within your field of work some see 'brutalist' architecture as beauty of form and function over the aesthetic appeal, some see the ornate and highly figured gothic style as beauty, others think art deco is the pinnacle of style and form, others like the plainness and modernity of the Bauhaus school. FLW's prairie style is perhaps my favourite. Thank goodness we are not all the same otherwise we would never progress or become enriched. Thank goodness we have learned to be less judgemental with architecture and rather see that as evolution and progression and celebrate the differences as you suggest, pity we seem much less able to apply it to people and individual choice without letting other's choices offend our sensitivities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Blimey, I only came to see some dodgy tattoos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Blimey, I only came to see some dodgy tattoos 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Blimey, I only came to see some dodgy tattoos 👍👍👍 it got too heavy for me to comprehend, is the OP still getting a tattoo, I've lost track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said: 👍👍👍 it got too heavy for me to comprehend, is the OP still getting a tattoo, I've lost track. No I think he is debating about getting a " Prince Albert" instead 😀😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatchap Posted September 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 Well not being inked today. She cancelled my appointment on Thursday due to a covid related incident, track and trace malarkey. So my new appointment is in two weeks time, Lockdown changes may effect that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, fatchap said: Well not being inked today. She cancelled my appointment on Thursday due to a covid related incident, track and trace malarkey. So my new appointment is in two weeks time, Lockdown changes may effect that as well. Good luck whatever happens 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 21 hours ago, washerboy said: Yes a pretty woman and nice ink doesn't spoil her either. when I was a kid she would have got a job in a fairground ,pretty lass all the same . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 minute ago, derbyduck said: when I was a kid she would have got a job in a fairground ,pretty lass all the same . Next to the bearded lady! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjbram Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 Make sure you have some food before you go take a couple of paracetamol and your good to go ive a full back piece and a full sleeve it all depends on where you are getting it at as to how much it hurts lol 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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