Fuel situation.

[la bala]

Whats it like in your area. First it was bog rolls, now its fuel.

[steve_b_wales]

It's nuts at our local ASDA, TESCO, SAINSBURY's and MURCO fuel stations and people are stripping the shelves at the ASDA store! According to a TESCO tanker driver, it's BP who have a shortage of drivers.

One garage is now rationing fuel at £15 per vehicle.

Edited September 24, 2021 by steve_b_wales

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Morrisons in Stamford was nice and quiet this morning when I filled up.

I see various outlets are capitalising. Jerry cans are being offered at good prices!

[DUNKS]

QUEUES at local Tesco have just about brought the town to a standstill.

[Smokersmith]

I've enough to go shooting Sat, Sun and Monday .. so tickety boo here 

[henry d]

What shortage? Filled up yesterday on an empty forecourt 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:

I've enough to go shooting Sat, Sun and Monday .. so tickety boo here 

I have enough to get to Coningsby tomorrow, and start nights so can call in on the way home before the rush starts.

Northampton on Sunday then a peaceful week.

[old'un]

Think the news and media in general as a lot to answer for this panic buying with headlines like “Britain running short of fuel and food” ….."We're Doomed, I tell you; doomed"

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, old'un said:

Think the news and media in general as a lot to answer for this panic buying with headlines like “Britain running short of fuel and food” ….."We're Doomed, I tell you; doomed"

Yes it is just lazy journalism, well not really what those of us older Members would call journalism.  

[johnny]

It’s ducking crazy round here just north of Cambridge 

[mel b3]

I didn't realise that their was any kind of fuel shortage , I thought that the massive queues at the petrol stations were because it was payday , and everyone was filling their tanks 😳. 

[London Best]

32 minutes ago, henry d said:

What shortage? Filled up yesterday on an empty forecourt 

That was before the BBC scaremongering news last night.

[dodgyrog]

I just filled up at the cheapest garage in the area (Dunston, near the Metro Centre) £133.9 for diesel.  No queues - straight in.

[Dave-G]

To be fair News firms are there to spread the news and a scoop will always be exploited. Imagine a news business that dint spread news....

[oowee]

Its another Brexit Brucy bonus. Get used to it plenty more to come. 

18 minutes ago, London Best said:

That was before the BBC scaremongering news last night.

Yep last thing we want them to do is report any news.

[old'un]

24 minutes ago, oowee said:

Its another Brexit Brucy bonus. Get used to it plenty more to come. 

Yep last thing we want them to do is report any news.

Nothing to-do with Brexit, Europe has an estimated 400,000 shortage of lorry drivers, Germany alone as a shortage of 45,000 lorry drivers.

[oowee]

Just now, old'un said:

Nothing to-do with Brexit, Europe has an estimated 400,000 shortage of lorry drivers, Germany alone as a shortage of 45,000 lorry drivers.

 It has everything to do with Brexit. The country just lost a shed load of it's work force. The labour that remains shuffles round and something falls out the bottom. In this case drivers for tankers. 

[Old farrier]

1 minute ago, oowee said:

 It has everything to do with Brexit. The country just lost a shed load of it's work force. The labour that remains shuffles round and something falls out the bottom. In this case drivers for tankers. 

Well not really surely the problem is caused by there being shed loads of lazy people that would rather sit infront of the Xbox on benefits than go to work 

seems there’s a awful lot of work so no excuse for anyone to be without a job and on benefits

when the country gets to the point of zero unemployment that’s the time to recruit from abroad 

[Vince Green]

46 minutes ago, oowee said:

Its another Brexit Brucy bonus. Get used to it plenty more to come. 

Yep last thing we want them to do is report any news.

How is it anything at all to do with Brexit? EU contract drivers dont drive petrol tankers. You have to have a whole list of other safety courses under you belt before you can deliver petrol. They used to be the highest paid of all drivers. and it used to be a closed shop

BP have said too many of their drivers have retired

Edited September 24, 2021 by Vince Green

[Gordon R]

Large queue at Asda this morning, large queue at local filling station half an hour ago. The minute anyone mentions shortage the rush starts. Irresponsible journalism.

Self fulfilling prophesies.

Edited September 24, 2021 by Gordon R

[simonm]

2 hours ago, steve_b_wales said:

It's nuts at our local ASDA, TESCO, SAINSBURY's and MURCO fuel stations and people are stripping the shelves at the ASDA store! According to a TESCO tanker driver, it's BP who have a shortage of drivers.

One garage is now rationing fuel at £15 per vehicle.

£15? I’d only just get home from the garage in my Discovery 😕

[henry d]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

That was before the BBC scaremongering news last night.

Just drove past the local fuel station four times today, pretty quiet

2 hours ago, dodgyrog said:

I just filled up at the cheapest garage in the area (Dunston, near the Metro Centre) £133.9 for diesel.  No queues - straight in.

I'm just a few miles away, and similar.

[oowee]

1 hour ago, Vince Green said:

How is it anything at all to do with Brexit? EU contract drivers dont drive petrol tankers. You have to have a whole list of other safety courses under you belt before you can deliver petrol. They used to be the highest paid of all drivers. and it used to be a closed shop

BP have said too many of their drivers have retired

I dont doubt that these things like driver training retirement and recruitment together with poor conditions and pay add to the problem. 

We now have Amazon and the like paying £30k plus for drivers, together with all of the supermarkets it sucks in labour, including experienced tanker drivers for the higher pay. Many of the europeans who would have work in some of these jobs have left the UK, leaving a labour vacuum. Same with warehouse staff. A shortage of labour at the distribution units means longer delays for drivers increasing the inefficiencies in the system. 

You can't simply remove upto a million from the labour force and not expect this sort of thing to happen.

Look at what is also happening in the food industry from picking to packing. Look at care home staff.  Look at manual NHS staff. Where is the planning?? 

 

Edited September 24, 2021 by oowee

[Vince Green]

1 hour ago, Gordon R said:

Large queue at Asda this morning, large queue at local filling station half an hour ago. The minute anyone mentions shortage the rush starts. Irresponsible journalism.

Self fulfilling prophesies.

I actually couldn't get into Asda to go shopping because of the queue this morning . The trouble really happens when the petrol stations start to run out because of excess demand   

[12gauge82]

1 minute ago, oowee said:

I dont doubt that these things all add to the problem of driver training and recruitment together with poor conditions and pay.

We now have Amazon and the like paying £30k plus for drivers together with all of the supermarkets its sucks in labour, including experienced tanker drivers for the higher pay. Many of the europeans would have work in these jobs but have left the UK, leaving a labour vacuum. Same with warehouse staff. A shortage of labour at the distribution units means longer delays for drivers increasing the inefficiencies in the system. 

You can't simply remove upto a million from the labour force and not expect this sort of thing to happen.

Look at what is also happening in the food industry from picking to packing. Look at care home staff.  Where is the planning?? 

 

It's excellent news, it's going to mean better pay, more jobs and driver training for British workers. For every European truck driver that's gone home, its one extra job for a British worker that may otherwise have been stuck on minimum wage. A little bit of short term disruption then a triple win. What's not to like?