Mice! Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: If Starmer hadn't said what he has said he would not look like a right idiot right now. And Angela Raynor a liar. That's it, I'm sure they've had a very awkward weekend. 1 hour ago, garjo said: If Starker resigns on a point of principle it would put Johnson in an impossible position. That combined with Nandy as leader would be a nightmare scenario for the Tories especially red wall tories. Be a great way for him to walk away from the job with his head held high, saying his principals are in tact, because he's done nothing as tge opposition leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted May 8, 2022 Report Share Posted May 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: He's not alone Very true, it would be quicker to list the politicians with them! It would be a very short list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 One of them accuses another of deliberately crossing her legs (flashing ), the top man has been fined for having parties at his place ,his opposite number is now under investigation for much the same thing ,another one has just gone after being caught watching porn in the house of commons . Welcome to the government of this great country . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 08/05/2022 at 11:14, bluesj said: It will be interesting to see what boris has to say if starmer and rayner are found to have broken the law! after all he can't say they should go can he 🙄 LOL! And true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Starmer says he will resigne we will see if dorris got the same bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Rim Fire said: Starmer says he will resign Must have a cushy job lined up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Must have a cushy job lined up Or maybe pals with the local police commissioner, I'm assuming the local establishment is Labour sympathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: Starmer says he will resigne we will see if dorris got the same bottle Boris has already said he won’t resign and hasn’t called for Starmer to do so. Starmer has decided that he himself will go if issued with a ticket; no one has called for him to go, and personally I couldn’t care less if he does or not. Boris has a job to do, Starmer doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Jega said: One of them accuses another of deliberately crossing her legs (flashing ) Didn't Rayner start that rumour herself? Edited May 9, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Scully said: Boris has already said he won’t resign and hasn’t called for Starmer to do so. Starmer has decided that he himself will go if issued with a ticket; no one has called for him to go, and personally I couldn’t care less if he does or not. Boris has a job to do, Starmer doesn’t. Yes lie to the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, Scully said: Boris has already said he won’t resign and hasn’t called for Starmer to do so. Starmer has decided that he himself will go if issued with a ticket; no one has called for him to go, and personally I couldn’t care less if he does or not. As you say - Boris hasn't called for Starmer to resign (glass houses/stones spring to mind). But Starmer DID call for Boris to resign IF fined - which is where he has made a problem for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: Yes lie to the country 😀 They're politicians for crying out loud! What are you expecting? Honesty? Integrity? Morals? Didn’t Rayner herself deny being there? How old are you? 53 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: As you say - Boris hasn't called for Starmer to resign (glass houses/stones spring to mind). But Starmer DID call for Boris to resign IF fined - which is where he has made a problem for himself. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scully said: 😀 They're politicians for crying out loud! What are you expecting? Honesty? Integrity? Morals? Didn’t Rayner herself deny being there? How old are you? Exactly. Well it seems Starmer has got more morals and integrity than dorris and i am a lot older than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: Well it seems Starmer has got more morals and integrity than dorris That remains to be seen. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Here’s a bigger picture party at 10 Downing Street boris house why did the policeman who’s permanently stood outside the door let anyone in? boris has heaps of advisers who are obviously not on the ball I’m thinking it’s probably the same for starmer there’s a lot more to worry about than a few drinks and curries the pair of them want to get on an do some work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 From Guido Sir Keir has just confirmed he will resign in the event of being given a fine, an unprecedented announcement from a Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition. Speaking minutes ago, and briefed out around 3 pm, Starmer said he will resign if issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, with it being briefed to journalists by those close to him that this is an “attempt to draw [a] line between Starmer & Johnson that not all politicians are the same”. Guido can see another obvious tactic at play from the pound shop Blair wannabee… In 2007, when under investigation for the Cash For Honours scandal, Tony Blair’s team warned the Metropolitan Police that the PM would have to resign if interviewed under caution, forcing them to back off under such immense political pressure: “Sources close to the inquiry said that there were difficult discussions before a political intermediary made senior detectives aware of the serious implications of treating the Prime Minister as a suspect. “Make no mistake, Scotland Yard was informed that Mr Blair would resign as Prime Minister if he was interviewed under caution,” said a source. “They were placed in a very difficult position indeed.”” On Saturday, when Guido exclusively revealed Lord Falconer has been tasked with putting together out Sir Keir’s legal defence, he didn’t expect Blair’s Justice Secretary to copy the tactic used by his old party boss so like-for-like. Unfortunately for Starmer one of his team accidentally explained the quiet bit out loud to ITV’s Daniel Hewitt, briefing “it puts some pressure on Durham Police who are being leant on in one direction”. Former DPP Sir Keir knows a thing or two about letting police forces fudge an investigation and letting the culprit get away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Starmer's only reason for resigning would be to take one for the team, he will take one for the team and go down as a martyr with the hope to drag Borris down with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Well it seems Starmer has got more morals and integrity than dorris and i am a lot older than you So much so he also had drinks and a meal with friends/ colleagues when he shouldn't have .. just because he says he will stand down means jack .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Well it seems Starmer has got more morals and integrity than dorris and i am a lot older than you You can't believe that? I'd say he's dug himself a hole, and is likely to suffer the consequences. 1 hour ago, Dougy said: Starmer's only reason for resigning would be to take one for the team, he will take one for the team and go down as a martyr with the hope to drag Borris down with him. I still say he'll be happy to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 I heard, Durham police do not hand out fixed penalty notices for historic covid breaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: I heard, Durham police do not hand out fixed penalty notices for historic covid breaches. Perhaps Starmer knows that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Well it seems Starmer has got more morals and integrity than dorris and i am a lot older than you He has said he will resign if charged ............ to put pressure on the police - nothing to do with integrity or morals - it's just political tactics. The police won't want to be seen as bringing a major party leader down (accusations of political meddling) over what is in fact a relatively trivial issue, but was made into a big drama by STARMER himself calling for Boris's resignation - and Rayner lying about not being there when she was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Let's have a public transport and bin men's strike in London till they ALL go, they can all ride their bikes through the rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 9 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: So much so he also had drinks and a meal with friends/ colleagues when he shouldn't have .. just because he says he will stand down means jack .. He had a drink and a meal at work He did not have a party with a suitcase full of wine and and deny at the dispatch box that he wasn't at any of the 12 gatherings as he put it then admitted to the country he made a mistake 😣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: He had a drink and a meal at work He did not have a party with a suitcase full of wine and and deny at the dispatch box that he wasn't at any of the 12 gatherings as he put it then admitted to the country he made a mistake 😣 Not sure quantity matters here.its clear in images and video he was in a house/ office full of people drinking a beer. Rules are rules or are we going down the route of if its Tories it's bad if it's labour it's okay?? Personally I don't really care what they did. It's being blown out or proportion but if he broke rules or laws etc then he has to be held accountable. I could speed 12 times you could speed once, does that mean you don't get the penalty as you only did it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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