oowee Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Great to see the Tories getting a good beating in the local election. I can't understand why they are even polling the numbers they are. Still it's good news lets hope the trend continues and the Tories get fully trounced in the forthcoming general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 you do know labour are very anti gun ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 20 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said: you do know labour are very anti gun ownership. Very true be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 51 minutes ago, oowee said: Great to see the Tories getting a good beating in the local election. I can't understand why they are even polling the numbers they are. Still it's good news lets hope the trend continues and the Tories get fully trounced in the forthcoming general. Speaking as someone who lives in Wales and has had a labour government for 20+ years i believe that labour are worse than the tories, Welsh education is a disaster as is our NHS and our road systems, we have a leader who is embroilled in a dodgy £200,000 donation and arrogantly believes he has done nothing wrong. If labour win in england and mirror Wales then we are truly up the creek without a paddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 17 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Speaking as someone who lives in Wales and has had a labour government for 20+ years i believe that labour are worse than the tories, Welsh education is a disaster as is our NHS and our road systems, we have a leader who is embroilled in a dodgy £200,000 donation and arrogantly believes he has done nothing wrong. If labour win in england and mirror Wales then we are truly up the creek without a paddle. This. We also have very high council tax and little to show for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 The tories aren't very impressive right now but Starmer's band of overgrown student activists are guaranteed to make everything worse including the economy. It's always the same with Labour governments; they can't make objective decisions because they have to kowtow to the self interested unions who fund the party and many of the politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 3 Author Report Share Posted May 3 21 minutes ago, sandspider said: This. We also have very high council tax and little to show for it. Yep it's part of the process of moving responsibility to local govt without proper funding. Underfunding of everything and the ultra high tax burden will be a hallmark of this regime. 2 minutes ago, Westward said: The tories aren't very impressive right now but Starmer's band of overgrown student activists are guaranteed to make everything worse including the economy. It's always the same with Labour governments; they can't make objective decisions because they have to kowtow to the self interested unions who fund the party and many of the politicians. Same is often said of both sides of the political divide. Labour bowing to the Unions and the Tories bowing to Russia and big business. That said at least Starmers team have a plan. 1 hour ago, rbrowning2 said: you do know labour are very anti gun ownership. Unlike the current regime ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 8 minutes ago, oowee said: Same is often said of both sides of the political divide. Labour bowing to the Unions and the Tories bowing to Russia and big business. That said at least Starmers team have a plan. Starmer has said that Wales is how labour should be, so look forward to 20mph limits, no road maintenance, pay per mile in the pipeline, pay to park at work in the pipeline, education tanking, the nhs getting worse, your chance of being treated if you have cancer diminishing, ohh it's not going to get better under labour not by a long chalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 3 Author Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) 18 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Starmer has said that Wales is how labour should be, I think that's going back a bit? This from 2023 Speaking ahead of the Labour Party conference, he admitted that he "can't pretend" there are not challenges in his relationship with the Welsh Labour government. Refreshingly honest. Many thought Truss was how the Tories should be. Edited May 3 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 3 minutes ago, oowee said: I think that's going back a bit? This from 2023 Speaking ahead of the Labour Party conference, he admitted that he "can't pretend" there are not challenges in his relationship with the Welsh Labour government. Refreshingly honest. Many thought Truss was how the Tories should be. His challanges were that drakeford was best mates with corbyn, you remember corbyn he was the one that starmer was best mates with and agreeed with what he did and said right up to the point where he stabbed him in the back. Be honest you say labour have a plan, but what is that plan? because starmer isn't telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Gordon Bennett..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: Speaking as someone who lives in Wales and has had a labour government for 20+ years i believe that labour are worse than the tories, Welsh education is a disaster as is our NHS and our road systems, we have a leader who is embroilled in a dodgy £200,000 donation and arrogantly believes he has done nothing wrong. If labour win in england and mirror Wales then we are truly up the creek without a paddle. Too True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, oowee said: Great to see the Tories getting a good beating in the local election. I can't understand why they are even polling the numbers they are. Still it's good news lets hope the trend continues and the Tories get fully trounced in the forthcoming general. i cant understand your glee...........its just going to be more of the useless money grabbing degernerate govt we have been so used to...........we dont want a election we want a bloody revolution.....as Trump says "drain the swamp" we need a Benevolant dictator....to flush wokeism and big girl blouse attitude around the U-bend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 9 minutes ago, ditchman said: i cant understand your glee...........its just going to be more of the useless money grabbing degernerate govt we have been so used to...........we dont want a election we want a bloody revolution.....as Trump says "drain the swamp" we need a Benevolant dictator....to flush wokeism and big girl blouse attitude around the U-bend Its just another wind up..😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, oowee said: Unlike the current regime ? Labour have been consistently the most vocal party in calling for tighter gun control since Keyham - most notable suggestions have been banning pump action shotguns and banning guns being stored at home. Luke Pollard the loudest of the bunch. I don't understand why anyone who partakes in any form of shooting would be celebrating a Labour victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 3 Author Report Share Posted May 3 27 minutes ago, ditchman said: i cant understand your glee...........its just going to be more of the useless money grabbing degernerate govt we have been so used to...........we dont want a election we want a bloody revolution.....as Trump says "drain the swamp" It's the only way we get back to the middle. Rapist, adulterous Donald Von ****zinpantz has no idea what he is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 There is NO middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 9 minutes ago, oowee said: the only way we get back to the middle. Which middle, the real one that is now, according to MSM, hard right or your one which used to be hard left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Whoever gets in next time, this will be the spectacle we will see,,,,,,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: Starmer has said that Wales is how labour should be, so look forward to 20mph limits, no road maintenance, pay per mile in the pipeline, pay to park at work in the pipeline, education tanking, the nhs getting worse, your chance of being treated if you have cancer diminishing, ohh it's not going to get better under labour not by a long chalk. I'm not sure I've ever read anything good about Labour running Wales, so despite being in power there since coal was first dug up the country needs a change that will never come. England might well get a Labour government, but I doubt it will last long, because Labour has no idea what it wants to do. Winning the next election is a doddle, just fix the roads and everyone will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 52 minutes ago, Genghis said: Labour have been consistently the most vocal party in calling for tighter gun control since Keyham - most notable suggestions have been banning pump action shotguns and banning guns being stored at home. Luke Pollard the loudest of the bunch. I don't understand why anyone who partakes in any form of shooting would be celebrating a Labour victory. hooray👍👍👍👍 it's not only me that gets it then🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Quote That said at least Starmers team have a plan. A plan which they haven't shared with anyone yet. I have no idea what Labour stands for. Let's catch the people smugglers not the illegals. A pipe dream. They won't get anywhere with that rubbish, but will be happy to import law breakers by the boat load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, Gordon R said: A plan which they haven't shared with anyone yet. I have no idea what Labour stands for. Let's catch the people smugglers not the illegals. A pipe dream. They won't get anywhere with that rubbish, but will be happy to import law breakers by the boat load. And that will increase their voting base, just like Bliar tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 Let's be honest I am a Conservative voter and I also live in Wales but this current lot in no 10 are a waste of time as for Labour being anti shooting don't forget Boris Johnson wife was a anti shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, oowee said: It's the only way we get back to the middle. Rapist, adulterous Donald Von ****zinpantz has no idea what he is saying. Labour = Champagne Socialism, no wonder you are happy. 🤣 Edited May 3 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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