Newbie to this Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 I wonder how they will try and defend this... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14007847/amp/Moment-Labour-MP-Mike-Amesbury-sucker-punched-constituent-beat-six-times-lay-ground-caught-shocking-CCTV-footage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 that is awful..............the "optics"...arnt going to be good on this happening..........Mandelson is now working for Starmer........maybe he can "Spin" it out of the way............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Showing true colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Will be swept under the carpet by the MSM, within 24 hours no mention at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Waiting for the peelers to act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Kicked out and off to court would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Until we know a bit more it is difficult to comment. He has had problems with people giving him grief before, perhaps the other guy has form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Been suspended. The CCTV is a small clip just showing him land two punches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Don’t worry, he’ll slink back in to the party and have the whip reinstated after a suitable (short) time span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Whatever was said to him, he knocked the man down and then proceeded to aim a fair number of further punches. It doesn't look good and does not appear to be self defence. Plenty of witnesses volunteering their account - none of which support the MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 No fan of Labour but the guy probably deserved it. the MP had been harassed before and was likely at the end of his tether with mouthy idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Caught a snippet on the news last night, typical weekend event, but when your an MP and everyone has a camera!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Self defence he's says, really 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 36 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Whatever was said to him, he knocked the man down and then proceeded to aim a fair number of further punches. It doesn't look good and does not appear to be self defence. Plenty of witnesses volunteering their account - none of which support the MP. And the CCTV that's been released only shows the punch that puts him on the floor and the follow up blows. But only those who were there know what actually happened to end in that scenario.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 watched the vid several times.....i rekon that was assault...............he dont 'alf think alot of himself........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 Playing devils advocate here, but it wasn’t really a sucker punch. They were standing face to face, a sucker punch usually comes from behind or the side when the other person is otherwise distracted. And without knowing what was said it is hard to know if it was in self defence or not. The other fella might have threatened to kill him or stab him or whatever, and if that was the case then I would say he was within his rights to put him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, owain said: Playing devils advocate here, but it wasn’t really a sucker punch. They were standing face to face, a sucker punch usually comes from behind or the side when the other person is otherwise distracted. And without knowing what was said it is hard to know if it was in self defence or not. The other fella might have threatened to kill him or stab him or whatever, and if that was the case then I would say he was within his rights to put him down. Down you maybe right, but the follow up poses the problem does it not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 An anonomous party official will visit the victim and discreetly offer him money not to make a complaint . No complaint no crime and the whole thing goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Down you maybe right, but the follow up poses the problem does it not. Possibly. But again it depends on the level of threat (if that’s what it was). If someone threatened to kill you, would you stop punching when they were on the deck? Again this is just total speculation, he might have just overreacted. In which case it should be treated the same as any other common assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 about as close as it comes to carrying out a one punch killing can’t wait to see the pathetic charge they come up with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: An anonomous party official will visit the victim and discreetly offer him money not to make a complaint . No complaint no crime and the whole thing goes away. Hello, My thoughts to Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 We have not seen any videos of what happened before he decked him maybe it was deserved and maybe not I will wait and see if anything else comes out before making my mind up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 It certainly looks like a sucker punch . The victim was stood with his arms by his side( maybe hands in pockets), and the attacker waits for him to look away for a second to throw the punch. He then carries on attacking him whilst he's on the ground , and unable to defend himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 10 hours ago, owain said: Possibly. But again it depends on the level of threat (if that’s what it was). If someone threatened to kill you, would you stop punching when they were on the deck? Again this is just total speculation, he might have just overreacted. In which case it should be treated the same as any other common assault. Being simplistic, to have carried on once the threat had gone is the problem? That's if the court decided it was OK to launch the initial attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 37 minutes ago, old man said: Being simplistic, to have carried on once the threat had gone is the problem? That's if the court decided it was OK to launch the initial attack? Is the threat gone once on the ground? The armed policeman at Manchester airport didn’t seem to think so. And as far as I know he hasn’t been prosecuted (correct me if I’m wrong but I haven’t heard anything to say that he has). I am not condoning what he did, all I am saying is that there may be more to it than a loss of temper. But I’m sure we will find out in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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