steve_b_wales Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I know of a case, when a farmer shot a dog that was attacking sheep. It had a collar and name/address disc on it. When the farmer tried to prosecute the owners, he was advised that they would claim the dog ran off from their home, or someone let the gate open etc. As this particular dog's owner has 'gone to the press', and admitted leaving the dog off it's lead, then he would have no problem prosecuting her for damages and costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Its a sad business all round i think, no winners there and i dont imagine for one second the farmer enjoyed doing the deed, any more than the lass enjoyed loosing her dog. All could have been prevented from happening with a bit more responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Not round the home counties they don't, can't remember the last time I saw a farmer with a gun. That was the very first thing I thought when I read the article, this is not a one off, the farmer was waiting for it I very rarely go onto our farm not packing something. Dogs will chase until they catch something. I had two of my ewes mauled, either the dog was alone and decided two was enough, or the owners didn't have the decency to let me know if got one mortally wounded animal in a field, and one needing 500 quid of vet treatment. Edited March 8, 2016 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 . Pleased to see the supportive comments below the article. That has suprised me too. The silly woman should be made to compensate the farmer for loss of earnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 That has suprised me too. The silly woman should be made to compensate the farmer for loss of earnings. It makes you think, my mauled animals were precious young pedigree ewes, the potential earning from the dead one was substantial, I get good money for a well bred breeding animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12187943/Hundred-sheep-killed-in-Chichester-in-worst-sheep-worrying-in-living-memory.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12187943/Hundred-sheep-killed-in-Chichester-in-worst-sheep-worrying-in-living-memory.html Just heard this on the radio , shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Supersport04 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) This happened close to where i live and its not the first story i have heard about dogs attacking livestock in the area. Fair play to the farmer, all of the farmers i know say it is a last resort so he must have been really desperate. Would hate to think how many more injuries and deaths would have been caused if the dog hadnt been shot. Atb supersport Edited March 8, 2016 by 14Supersport04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Mostly all farms own a dog of thier own I don't know a sheep farmer without a dog I don't know a farmer who carries a gun on his daily chores Dog gets shot worrying directly over the owners failure to act - yet the dog pays the price and the farmer looses more than the stock price it's likely taken lots of time to get his breeding how it is Mostly all farms own a dog of thier own I don't know a sheep farmer without a dog I don't know a farmer who carries a gun on his daily chores Dog gets shot worrying directly over the owners failure to act - yet the dog pays the price and the farmer looses more than the stock price it's likely taken lots of time to get his breeding how it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 +1 No sympathy in the comments below the article either. +2.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Agree with all the above. This type of dog with it's beautiful coat, bright eyes and eager expression may look like a living, breathing, soft toy, but in reality they're not as cuddly as they look. There's plenty of wolf in their heritage which gives them tremendous endurance for dog sled work but also a strong instinct to run down and kill prey. If there's any type of dog that needs proper training and strict control it's Huskies and their derivatives. Based on what I see around, my opinion is that at least 80% of dog owners haven't the first idea about keeping dogs under control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malmick Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Sentiments and comments seem pretty much unanimous and correctly support the position of the farmer. The very biased reporting could at least mention the farmer's legal right to compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I hope that they used Bismuth if it was wild fouling ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Agree with all the above. This type of dog with it's beautiful coat, bright eyes and eager expression may look like a living, breathing, soft toy, but in reality they're not as cuddly as they look. There's plenty of wolf in their heritage which gives them tremendous endurance for dog sled work but also a strong instinct to run down and kill prey. If there's any type of dog that needs proper training and strict control it's Huskies and their derivatives. Based on what I see around, my opinion is that at least 80% of dog owners haven't the first idea about keeping dogs under control. Actually no wolf at all least of all the north American timber wolf It's far more wrong owner than wrong breed of dog Your common or garden friendly labrador is equally deadly. Collies? More so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 "The Siberian Husky IS the breed closest to a wolf. Recent DNA testing proves the Siberian is one of the oldest breeds in the world. The way a dog gradually came from a wolf happened like this. The early paleolithic peoples always had wolves following camp. They accepted the most docile wolves near camp. They bred the most docile wolves, with other docile wolves. And over many generations came the dog. They used a process called "selective breeding". They bred the dogs with the qualities they liked most. Like all domesticated animals, the desired qualities and traits were kept for breeding, and the rest were not allowed to reproduce. Very few domesticated dog breeds can withstand temperatures of 60 below. This can only come from the wolf." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Shepards are having too many lambs taken by foxes as it is and the last thing they need is a dog or dogs attacking sheep, this is their livelihood and should be able to do whatever is necessary to stop any animal harming his stock. We had 2 golden retrievers attack our sheep and that ended up with a dead ewe and a dead dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Saw the same thing last week in the lakes when out walking, went through the gate with the sign stating that 5 lambs/ewes had been killed by dogs allready this year and sure enough there was a couple with there dog off the lead and went straight after a pair of ewes and they just carried on walking, could not care less what was going on. These people should be banned from owning animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallshort Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Remember fishing in a match a few years ago and some stupid so and so had let their dog off the lead and it was chasing the cows in field. He actually thought the dog was playing with the cows. We had an ex copper with us who went over and informed him that the farmer could and probably would shoot his dog if he saw what was happening. The bloke to his credit put his dog on the lead and said he would take more care in future. Some people just need telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Should have shot the owner not the dog, Its not the dogs fault its the owners fault, but i guess this would have caused a bigger outcry. Edited March 9, 2016 by dead eye alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Should have shot the owner not the dog, Its not the dogs fault its the owners fault, but i guess this would have caused a bigger outcry. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Unfortunately there really is no winner's in a situation like this, I feel sorry the dog owner has lost a family member as I know how I would feel if I lost my dog from being shot however my dog would never be in a position like that and the farmer obviously had no other option, I just hope she and other idiotic dog owners learn something from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Next question!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 If anyone watches 'life below zero' on the free view Travel channel you will see 'Ice dogs' doing what they are meant to be doing, there is a recent trend to have these breeds on leads as they are a fashionable pet. The dog was doing something instinctive but was in the wrong country so the outcome was correct plus I think the owner should pay compensation to the farmer as her mistake really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Have to agree with all the comments and if I were in the farmers position I would have done exactly the same, this needs publicising more to alert muppets with out of control dogs of the consequences of their actions, 100% behind the farmer here after growing up on a farm, It's a real Shame that a nice looking dog was shot due to the ignorance and stupidity of its owner, I hope he sues the backside off of her for the damage to his livestock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Remember, if you are shooting with the farmers permission and you see a dog worrying livestock, you will be doing the farmer a favour by shooting it. Always assuming the dog is not belonging to the farmer of course. We keep a lot of livestock, but no dogs and would hope the syndicate members would shoot on sight in those circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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