JohnfromUK Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/22/large-scale-illegal-gun-factory-found-sussex-industrial-estate/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I was just about to post the same. https://news.sky.com/story/illegal-gun-factory-discovered-on-industrial-estate-11479125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I've always thought someone with a lathe or other decent equipment could probably produce firearms, especially pistols fairly easily if they had the right know how. Plenty of videos on youtube etc of people making slap-guns, a shotgun shell and a bit of pipe and they're away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Makes a joke of the recent Panorama expose (shock horror!) concerning legally held obsolete calibre pistols, being used illegally by criminals (by home loading (and using!) cartridges assembled using illegally obtained, controlled components!) Closing the so called "loophole" of allowing obsolete calibre guns to be held off ticket....will do sweet FA to stop criminals obtaining illegal guns and ammo....this news proves that they will obtain guns in other ways or just make em themselves! The only people affected by any ban on holding obsolete calibre guns (or any guns for that matter!) will be law abiding gun users, owners, enthusiasts and collectors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Or a knife, linishing machine, Land Rover parts, fridge door handles, hang on, now where do l know this person from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: The only people affected by any ban on holding obsolete calibre guns (or any guns for that matter!) will be law abiding gun users, owners, enthusiasts and collectors! That has always been the case; however, the police are gradually succeeding in their aim of reducing (and eventually eliminating) privately held guns (of all types). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: That has always been the case; however, the police are gradually succeeding in their aim of reducing (and eventually eliminating) privately held guns (of all types). Yes, there is without doubt an agenda to remove all firearms from public ownership. My cousin who was a detective sergeant in the West Midlands Police did not agree with the public owning guns, and a lot of his colleagues agreed with him, we had some heated debates on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just down the road from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: Or a knife, linishing machine, Land Rover parts, fridge door handles, hang on, now where do l know this person from ? dont look at me..............................honest guv'ner.....i was no where near .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: I've always thought someone with a lathe or other decent equipment could probably produce firearms, especially pistols fairly easily if they had the right know how. Plenty of videos on youtube etc of people making slap-guns, a shotgun shell and a bit of pipe and they're away. That's exactly right, they are not sophisticated bits of kit. It comes back to the point I made before, you have to have a reason to want to do it though. This factory sound like it was just for the money but they were going to get caught eventually. Edited August 22, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: Or a knife, linishing machine, Land Rover parts, fridge door handles, hang on, now where do l know this person from ? Don’t you dare bring my fridge into this- it’s playing this whole exposure ‘Cool’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I'm all for the police taking down illegal operations like this- would happily see much more of it as opposed to introducing new b.s legislation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, HW95J said: I'm all for the police taking down illegal operations like this- would happily see much more of it as opposed to introducing new b.s legislation! Couldn't agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, ditchman said: dont look at me..............................honest guv'ner.....i was no where near .............. That's true a Land Rover making it from Norfolk to Sussex would be unexpected ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: That's true a Land Rover making it from Norfolk to Sussex would be unexpected ? Hey wash your mouth out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Woah my best friends landy just made it from norfolk to dundee! Only filled her up 3 times too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, novice cushie shooter said: Woah my best friends landy just made it from norfolk to dundee! Only filled her up 3 times too!! Wait for it, someone is going to say and that was just oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: That's true a Land Rover making it from Norfolk to Sussex would be unexpected ? 158,000 miles .....thats just run in.............(i can take the sign of the back now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: I've always thought someone with a lathe or other decent equipment could probably produce firearms, especially pistols fairly easily if they had the right know how. Plenty of videos on youtube etc of people making slap-guns, a shotgun shell and a bit of pipe and they're away. Firearms replication has been a cottage industry in Pakistan for ages. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/25/showcasing-peshawar/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 My inlaws live in Hailsham, I knew they were at it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, novice cushie shooter said: Woah my best friends landy just made it from norfolk to dundee! Only filled her up 3 times too!! So what make was the tow truck ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 9 hours ago, novice cushie shooter said: Woah my best friends landy just made it from norfolk to dundee! Only filled her up 3 times too!! And that was whist it was being repaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just my opinion but this story just does not gel somehow. Pictures of fairly standard machine shop gear, couple of bags of bullets (available from any police armory). Not a picture of any kind showing guns, gun parts or anything gun related (except a few rounds). Very unlike the cops not to fill your telly screen with guns of every kind. Very strange descriptions of what could be done with these "metal manipulating" machines. Even the words used are very uni raised chief constable(ish). Combine this story with the bs Panorama programme and it has me wondering if there is a bit of jiggery pokery going on? "What" I can hear you think; "a chief constable telling porkies" well I Hillsborough never. Seriously people they've been trying legally for years to reduce private gun ownership (with more than a bit of self interpretation of home office guidelines) perhaps now a CC is changing tactics. Never been into conspiracy theories but ?? Like I said just my opinion. Comment as you all see fit. Bri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Not sure that would be the case, sussex have a very good fire arms licensing team and that only happens if the boss wants it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) From the Telegraph report..."The milling machine - the machine on the right - would be used to very accurately create grooves on the outside of the gun...." What 'grooves' would these be, do you suppose? Off topic really, but I once knew a bloke who made a working replica of a Navy Colt from the paper plans. Just about every part other than the barrel and cylinder was hand-filed. He kept in the tool drawer of his workbench and worked away at it when we weren't busy or after hours. He'd been head foreman of the action-filing workshop at a best London gunmaker and it was a little hobby project for him. If the gun is still in existence, it's probably the finest built 'Colt" on the planet. Edited August 23, 2018 by Retsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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