Walker570 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 I have just seen a video of this appauling intrusion on a religious service by Welsh Police and could not believe the scruffy *** of a police officer with his hands in his pockets all the time. What a pathetic advert for the Welsh Police. What on earth is this country coming too? The video was on youtube The Voice of Reason Alex Belfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: I have just seen a video of this appauling intrusion on a religious service by Welsh Police and could not believe the scruffy *** of a police officer with his hands in his pockets all the time. What a pathetic advert for the Welsh Police. What on earth is this country coming too? The video was on youtube The Voice of Reason Alex Belfield. Thankfully it is NOT this country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Why should the police not check out a church service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Probably looking for kid fiddlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, London Best said: Probably looking for kid fiddlers. Surely lamb fiddlers in Wales 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 They may well have been in the right to do what they did, but they could have chosen more obvious targets. They must have known that the publicity would not be all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Vince Green said: Why should the police not check out a church service? ^^^^ This. Flouting the rules is rife from the top down, through sports to pubs to families meeting up. It's generally a free for all with everyone following their own rules or no rules at all. I am afraid its all a lost cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, oowee said: ^^^^ This. Flouting the rules is rife from the top down, through sports to pubs to families meeting up. It's generally a free for all with everyone following their own rules or no rules at all. I am afraid its all a lost cause. Everyone is slating Boris for not locking down, the minute there is a lockdown they are all phoning radio shows etc asking what the limit is of what they can get away with! One woman phoned LBC saying she planned to meet her friend but this was now banned. Her plan was to go to a gallery as a sole person, and her friend would just so happen to be visiting at the same time. Don’t know why they bothered pretending it was such a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Yes, the regulations as they stand in Wales does allow the police to intervene BUT in this case it could have been handled in a far more sensitive way and how many does it take to quietly enter a church and speak with the Pastor and have hime explain that they should leave. I counted three scruffy specimens ..... the computer didn't like **** but that was what they where...... see how many turn up when you report a theft and how long it takes, that is if they do bother of course. My old Sergeant must be rolling in his grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Bet the French people wish they had police in some of there places of worship, what a dreadful thing to happen whats going wrong with some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 The latest ploy being suggested by the 'anti lockdowners' is to form a family 'business' and the business holds a 'business meeting' over a meal on Christmas day, or indeed multiple meetings over the holiday period. The longer people circumnavigate rules put in place to control viral transmission, the longer the whole thing is likely to go on. If people put as much thought and effort into fighting the virus instead of fighting the rules ........ this might be over sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) I don't have any sympathy what so ever, I hope they all get a big fine a crime was being committed and nobody there can say they didn't realise. Edited October 30, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Yes, the regulations as they stand in Wales does allow the police to intervene BUT in this case it could have been handled in a far more sensitive way and how many does it take to quietly enter a church and speak with the Pastor and have hime explain that they should leave. I counted three scruffy specimens ..... the computer didn't like g.i.t.s but that was what they where...... see how many turn up when you report a theft and how long it takes, that is if they do bother of course. My old Sergeant must be rolling in his grave. Why does it have to be handled more sensitively? they knew what they was doing by breaking the law, it’s all over the news what you can and can’t do. the police need more of a firm hand like this to stop this from happening, the softly approach doesn’t work we have seen it time and time again. Some people just won’t/don’t listen to what you have to abide by and when they get caught they moan through the roof. I have no sympathy for them at all, if I have to do it why can’t they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 The couple from Cardiff are still apparently heading up to Cumbria this weekend ( tonight ) for a weeks stay in OH’s Mothers holiday let. I’m not sure how this works as we would be stopped if it were us travelling to Wales. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Scully said: The couple from Cardiff are still apparently heading up to Cumbria this weekend ( tonight ) for a weeks stay in OH’s Mothers holiday let. I’m not sure how this works as we would be stopped if it were us travelling to Wales. 🤷♂️ I believe it is supposed to work both ways - as it is essential journeys open. I dunno for sure as I haven't been stopped but my wife went to Chester last week - for her job and also to drop the shopping off for her parents without any police being seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: The latest ploy being suggested by the 'anti lockdowners' is to form a family 'business' and the business holds a 'business meeting' over a meal on Christmas day, or indeed multiple meetings over the holiday period. The longer people circumnavigate rules put in place to control viral transmission, the longer the whole thing is likely to go on. If people put as much thought and effort into fighting the virus instead of fighting the rules ........ this might be over sooner. It’s going to go on regardless though. Lockdown or no lockdown. The reduction in infections earlier in the year was as much to do with the weather as lockdown. Now it’s winter we just have to learn to live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Religion on not, its a simple rule which they broke. Id loved to have seen the police kick the door in and arrest everyone, but then we'd have another protest on our hands. I wonder how many other places of worship have been checked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Scully said: The couple from Cardiff are still apparently heading up to Cumbria this weekend ( tonight ) for a weeks stay in OH’s Mothers holiday let. I’m not sure how this works as we would be stopped if it were us travelling to Wales. 🤷♂️ From Cardiff its a pretty short dash down the M4, over the bridge and out of Wales before joining the M5 and heading north, so its possible But if you look at the webcam on the bridge (when its working ), cars have been streaming both ways all week. Maybe less than normal but they are still going back and forwards apparently unchecked. If you are going to have a travel restriction you have to enforce it Edited October 30, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, AVB said: Now it’s winter we just have to learn to live with it. And the way to 'live with it' should be to follow the rules set. 13 minutes ago, AVB said: The reduction in infections earlier in the year was as much to do with the weather as lockdown The weather certainly helped as did being outside more - but there is no getting away from the fact that if you don't meet up closely with people - the virus cannot transmit from person to person - which is by far the main means of spreading. 3 minutes ago, Vince Green said: From Cardiff its a pretty short dash down the M4, over the bridge and out of Wales before joining the M5 and heading north, so its possible But if you look at the webcam on the bridge (when its working ), cars have been streaming both ways all week. Maybe less than normal but they are still going back and forwards apparently unchecked Gloucestershire police say they are doing some stopping; https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/gloucestershire-police-stopped-caravans-motorhomes-4646761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, strimmer_13 said: Religion on not, its a simple rule which they broke. Id loved to have seen the police kick the door in and arrest everyone, but then we'd have another protest on our hands. I wonder how many other places of worship have been checked? It is an independent church, so they will have a different idea from the main stream churches such as CoE, CoS... Certainly the CoS have said that there will be no group gatherings, so our church gathers via zoom which is allowed. It wasn't a matter of checking, neighbours phoned it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, henry d said: It wasn't a matter of checking, neighbours phoned it in. And rightly so wouldn't you agree? I'd be royally ****** off if I've been stuck in and seen a lot of people gathering next door. Im wondering on the 'other' groups (not just Christian and Catholic) that will be meeting in their houses, that would get me banned according to the rules. I dont knock you for what you believe, and from your statement above you've done the right thing and used modern technology to adjust to the situation. Good plan, well executed. In the same light, miss 'victim' of police brutality in the video could of done the same, but chose not to even tho she could film, edit and post a video on social media. I wish they fined the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 They should have known better, seems that they were praying rather than singing etc which is known to be responsible for transmitting the virus. Just one point, Catholics are Christians, just like CoE CoS etc (JW's SDA's I would argue are not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, henry d said: They should have known better, seems that they were praying rather than singing etc which is known to be responsible for transmitting the virus. Just one point, Catholics are Christians, just like CoE CoS etc (JW's SDA's I would argue are not). We visited the Dominican Republic while on a cruise a few years ago. We went out on a tour rather than stay in the plastic cruise resort. The guide (while plying us with rum and coke) told us that there were two religions in the country, Catholics and Christians! I hope he meant Catholics and Protestants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 As long as all religious gatherings get the same attention im fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Maybe they was going to Barnard Castle to have their eyes checked🤣 Edited November 2, 2020 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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