JohnfromUK Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56209007 My perception is that the Home Office seems to have a poor record of winning in the higher courts on immigration appeals - but I think this (Supreme Court) is as high as one can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 100% the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Yes. They have a poor record on appeals just as do most guilty parties! The Begum ruling is a good ruling in that it states that a genuine and extremely serious risk to the safety of all must also be considered as well as an individual's rights. They have rightly said that whilst she can appeal the removal of her citizenship she will not be allowed to use that as a reason to re-enter the UK. It is a good ruling. 100% correct. So why do the Home Office lose so many appeals at these lower levels? Because mostly at lower tiers the Home Office lose many immigration appeals as they have in bad faith applied the law. It is only necessary to look at the recent "Windrush" debacle to see that there seems to be a malicious element within the Home Office. And as gun owners we also know that all too well. That spurious reasons are continually trotted out to further justify restrictions beyond the already onerous limitations placed on lawful ownership and use of guns. Edited February 26, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 That is the best news I have read about for a very long time no get them to stop theses coming in on boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 At last some good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Silly girl. Willing to leave Britain, and to come back to do us harm? Now that things have gone pear shapped, wants to come back....well, TOUGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Can she appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Can she appeal? I believe not - at lest not in the UK - because the Supreme Court is the 'top' in the UK. Appeals normally go up to the 'next level up', but this is already decided by the top. It is possible that she could appeal to some international court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I watch with great interest and wonder just how much the stupid girl/woman has cost us already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: I watch with great interest and wonder just how much the stupid girl/woman has cost us already? You don't want to wonder about things like that - it will end up getting confused with someone's telephone number. Plenty of lawyers can go and buy their cottages in the country though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) I bet it was killing the bosses at the BBC to announce the good news. Edited February 26, 2021 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Can she appeal? No. The Supreme Court of the UK is (like the Supreme Court in the USA...from where no doubt it stole its name) is the modern day replacement for what was at the time also the last and final tier and called/known as a Court as "the House of Lords" or "the Law Lords". The Supreme Court is now that last and final tier. Edited February 26, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 had she been a member of the IRA she would be strolling the streets now safe from prosecution because the government does deals with terrorists when it suits them despite how many people their bombs killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 About time the judiciary sent a message to these idiots.Must admit the decision surprised me given our pathetic record on dealing with terrorists over the years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I found it ironic that the usual Human Rights numpties trot out the line that her treatment is not the "British way". Where was her British way, when she scurried off to join her terrorist friends. Justice for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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London Best Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Pleased with the court’s decision. But if she REALLY wants it they should restore her British Citizenship and allow her to return to the U.K. and then hang her for treason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just let the SAS do what they are good at, use a 7.62, put it down to a retaliation killing for her wanting to leave the jihadis, job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Can she appeal? Not to me !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Just let the SAS do what they are good at, use a 7.62, put it down to a retaliation killing for her wanting to leave the jihadis, job done. Purgatory is worse than a painless death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 I see someone finally found his gonads! Thankfully! Who paid for the appeals I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 yes this is very good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) The camp interview she did did her no favours and she showed not one drop of remorse. The discussion I had with the Mrs last night was along the lines of ‘anyone who has had a stupid, stroppy or impressionable teenager will have at the back of their minds a perfect storm where something dreadful like this could have / might have happened to them’ But, like so much of life, even weird situations like this are a numbers game - if you think how many millions of other stroppy teenagers passed through adolescence and managed not to join ISIS, leave the country, marry a Jidhadist fighter etc - well, if she’s the 1 in one million that’s innocent of everything and anything and who was swept along with it all, well that’s an acceptable margin of error and just one of those things. Edited February 27, 2021 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mungler said: The camp interview she did did her no favours and she showed not one drop of remorse. The discussion I had with the Mrs last night was along the lines of ‘anyone who has had a stupid, stroppy or impressionable teenager will have at the back of their minds a perfect storm where something dreadful like this could have / might have happened to them’ But, like so much of life, even weird situations like this are a numbers game - if you think how many millions of other stroppy teenagers passed through adolescence and managed not to join ISIS, leave the country, marry a Jidhadist fighter etc - well, if she’s the 1 in one million that’s innocent of everything and anything and who was swept along with it all, well that’s an acceptable margin of error and just one of those things. I think her whole misguided "journey" was to join the "fight" and get pregnant and produce more fighters for our "enemy" And then when it all goes wrong she wants to return to the fold! The main advantage to all of the publicity she has gained should be that any other person thinking of doing something similar may well think again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: The main advantage to all of the publicity she has gained should be that any other person thinking of doing something similar may well think again! Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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