sishyplops Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Just seen that the cpsa are changing (or proposing to ) their name to CTSA (Clay Target Shooting Association) is it just a woke thing ? will the sub forum on here have to change to Clay Target Shooting ? Edited January 17, 2023 by sishyplops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 The proposal was made some years ago and voted against. If it has been mooted again, it would appear their attempts to distance themselves from live quarry shooters are being refreshed. Perhaps they fear being tarnished with the same brush? I don’t know what percentage of CPSA members also shoot live quarry, but it would be interesting to know, and to know what they think of the proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 As Scully says, this thing rears its head periodically. It was first mentioned in the 1980's ish and was voted out then, with nobody seeing the need. Maybe it has resurfaced, after the CPSA statement regarding the steel shot debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 I've shot at a club that emphasises the point that it's a clay "target" shoot, and they're hits not kills. Ironically the chaps that run it control deer on the land, and they definitely kill them! Nonsense, the lot of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 Don’t get involved with them but does indeed look like it is a distancing issue particularly on the lead issue. Would love to be convinced otherwise but seems to be another part of the shooting community splitting away rather than uniting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Shot Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Always makes me laugh when I have to explain to regular people that the clay pigeons are infact clay disc targets and not live animals. Happens surprisingly a lot which is probably why the proposal for the name change. Also perhaps an attempt to align themselves with their Welsh and Scottish counterparts (Welsh Clay Target Shooting Association and Scottish Clay Target Association). Finally read the email. It is (partly) to align themselves with the other uk associations. Also seems like they'd prefer not to be associated with the game side of things. Not good. Edited January 16, 2023 by Poor Shot Read the Newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 They also made it fairly clear on their email they’re very much against banning lead, another distinction from some others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) How come I can eat rockfish but I can't eat clay pigeons? Back in the day when live pigeon shooting was banned they used, instead, glass balls filled with feathers. Thus the famous at the time Bogardus Ball Trap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Bogardus https://traphof.org/artifacts/history-of-glass-target-balls But the came clay targets. As they were cheaper and didn't litter the ground with glass unlike Bogardus's balls. And why would they be called clay pigeons rather than clay balls? I don't know. But for sure yet back in the day Bogardus's invention weren't called glass pigeons so there was no "wokery" then just they were called what they were called. I see calling them clay targets closer in spirit to Bogardus's choosing to call his live pigeon substitute "balls" rather than (glass) "pigeons" in fact. Anyway I wrote this on my invitation to comment: Quote When famous Army regiments merge they often keep part of each to create their new name and to become their new cap badge. Why cannot the CPSA become the Clay Pigeon Target Association and drop the "Shooting" moniker altogether? For the use of the very word "target" implies anyway that something is being shot at! Edited January 16, 2023 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 Out in Spain it translates to clay plate shooting, but whatever 'they' wish to call the sport I will carry on doing it and lose no sleep over a name, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) This whole thing comes around every couple of years, has no regard for tradition and will eventually get passed! Not something to lose any sleep over though. Nobody has posted a link yet, so here you go; https://www.cpsa.co.uk/news/general/2023/01/16/new-year-new-name/5878 Personally I would hope that they change the name to something sensible like the Environmentally Friendly Disc Target Shooting Association All said with tongue firmly in cheek! Edited January 17, 2023 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Poor Shot said: Always makes me laugh when I have to explain to regular people that the clay pigeons are infact clay disc targets and not live animals. Happens surprisingly a lot which is probably why the proposal for the name change. Also perhaps an attempt to align themselves with their Welsh and Scottish counterparts (Welsh Clay Target Shooting Association and Scottish Clay Target Association). Finally read the email. It is (partly) to align themselves with the other uk associations. Also seems like they'd prefer not to be associated with the game side of things. Not good. Maybe, some peeps believe me when I say that I miss some on purpose to help them breed. Or that, those skeet take a hell of a lot of cooking to make them tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Does it really matter, get out and enjoy your shooting while you can. Personally older i get the more attractive clays are. No need to turn out on cold, wet days for game shoots, much cheaper than syndicates, no pheasants to prepare when you dont really like them to eat, cafe on hand for after a couple of rounds. Am of to get a px value for my game gun today and chop it in for a decent sporter. Edited January 17, 2023 by grahamch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, grahamch said: Personally older i get the more attractive clays are. A bit like sheep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, London Best said: A bit like sheep? Only roast on a plate for sunday lunch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 I would be interested to know how many of the replies above come from CPSA Members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 As long as it’s got the word ‘clay’ in front of ‘pigeon’ it’s self explanatory anyway…..?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Fellside said: As long as it’s got the word ‘clay’ in front of ‘pigeon’ it’s self explanatory anyway…..?! You do realise that the Clay Pigeon Shooting Association are planning to change to the Clay Target Shooting Association, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: You do realise that the Clay Pigeon Shooting Association are planning to change to the Clay Target Shooting Association, don't you? Yes. I was merely offering a rationale as to why a name change is unnecessary. That is, the ‘clay’ prefix tells anyone it’s not live pigeon shooting anyway. Bit of a giveaway isn’t it?! Why don’t they call it the ‘Pigeon Hugging Clay Target Against Bird Murdering Club’? OK…..needs a bit of work….but it delivers…..😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinj Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 I'm still confused, will we have to call Wood pigeons Wood Targets? CPSA member also 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, martinj said: I'm still confused, will we have to call Wood pigeons Wood Targets? CPSA member also 👍 🤣 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 I am in the CPSA and would like it left as it is. I'm also pretty thick but have never not understood what a clay pigeon is. More wokery at hand I fear. From Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Fellside said: As long as it’s got the word ‘clay’ in front of ‘pigeon’ it’s self explanatory anyway…..?! What about "wood pigeon"?? Just saying. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Cpsa member, if the name is genuinely losing sponsorship then I've no problem with a change, the clays won't know any difference as will my shooting 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, vmaxphil said: Cpsa member, if the name is genuinely losing sponsorship then I've no problem with a change, the clays won't know any difference as will my shooting 👍 Bet there’s no evidence that a company would have sponsored the CPSA if the name was different. Would suggest that it’s someone’s excuse for lack of sponsorship, need to get better marketing and management team, not waste member’s money on changing the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 17/01/2023 at 06:12, TIGHTCHOKE said: This whole thing comes around every couple of years, has no regard for tradition and will eventually get passed! Not something to lose any sleep over though. Nobody has posted a link yet, so here you go; https://www.cpsa.co.uk/news/general/2023/01/16/new-year-new-name/5878 Personally I would hope that they change the name to something sensible like the Environmentally Friendly Disc Target Shooting Association All said with tongue firmly in cheek! Portable Rotating In-air Clay Killing Society? Disk In-air Clay bashing Kindly Society? Again, tongue in cheek for humour only. I like the CPSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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