landofficer Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Had an email from just cartridges about an increase in costs sales pitch or not, not sure there has been one for a while but it’s getting an expensive hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen-H Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Follow a few gun shops on social media & they have been mentioning a increase coming 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops_Hants Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 I know Sportsman Gun Centre put the prices up of their own brand (rebranded Eley) carts up on Jan 1st. I hate reading old articles quoting £180 per thou for carts that are now £260 per thou, wonder what they will go up too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 No disrespect but why buy online? Dont you have a gun shop local? Worth paying extra at gun shop, cause if he closes down you are snookered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 I think they are trying to ramp up their lead cartridge prices as much as possible - pre steel transition. When (or if) we all transfer to steel, we will be jumping across to a product with a much higher margin….. or am I just being cynical….?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, Pops_Hants said: I know Sportsman Gun Centre put the prices up of their own brand (rebranded Eley) carts up on Jan 1st. I hate reading old articles quoting £180 per thou for carts that are now £260 per thou, wonder what they will go up too I only started shooting clays in 2007 and we used to buy the cheapest available - usually those dirty old D&J carts… £90 per thousand. Surely a better investment than property 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Its getting to the point where folk cant afford to shoot much. Bywell was noticably quieter than normal last weekend. No one seems interested in trying to sort the mess out or seriously try to put Putin in his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Is it just cartridge prices, or is the cost of cartridge reloading materials going up by the same amount? Just wondering if reloading will become worthwhile again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 It's pants down across the board i'm afraid......gas,diesel,petrol etc. Covid needs to be paid for..and it seems all in the next 3 to 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen-H Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just cartridges are never the cheapest on the market they may have promo free delivery deals but it doesent workout any cheaper in the long run there biggest factor is the availability in different brands & cartridge selection. I believe & I'm sure I will be corrected if I am wrong is the raw materials of making the cartridges as you say or indeed the price it costs to ship either raw materials in or the price of shipping in container loads of ready made cartridges. I remember reading that victory cartridges are getting thin on the ground now as I believe they won't ship to the UK? Winchester seemed to stop shipping years ago other then the odd 3 - 3 1/2 inch steel loads for wildfowling I noticed you can get the new hull superfast pigeon load a 32gram 5.5 size shot fibre wad load for £75 a slab 250 but some other dealers still want / sell the older 29gram 6 fibre loads for £80 - £90 & have quoted the price increase so stock up while you can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 There are certainly genuine increases in production costs. However, there is also a degree of commercial opportunism at work. How do we know what is a genuine and proportionate price increase - and what is not……?! There are sneaky exaggerated price hikes across many sectors now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Just to put it into context, a bloke I know is paying £160;@ month for sky tv , yes a MONTH, so paying £250-£300 a thousand ain’t that bad and I doubt many people will shoot those over a month or 2 , regardless of what it is you’ll pay it if you want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Yes I had the same Email form Just cartridges. Very glad I stocked up a while ago at £190 a thousand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, grahamch said: Its getting to the point where folk cant afford to shoot much. Bywell was noticably quieter than normal last weekend. No one seems interested in trying to sort the mess out or seriously try to put Putin in his place. Putin could pack up and go home. Prices won't come down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes I had the same Email form Just cartridges. Very glad I stocked up a while ago at £190 a thousand. Trust you to get the bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 I did spread a few around the poor of the Parish! Have been using them in Registered ESP Competitions and slowly raising my average. VERY happy at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Hello, there's. an Auction tomorrow in Gloucestershire with quite a lot of cartridges, I was thinking to go but from what I've read people have been paying top money as near to buying from RFDs, plus 21.6 % premium on top of hammer price, will I get a good deal on a air rifle 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I did spread a few around the poor of the Parish! Have been using them in Registered ESP Competitions and slowly raising my average. VERY happy at that price. Cheeky 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger687 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 16 hours ago, grahamch said: Its getting to the point where folk cant afford to shoot much. Bywell was noticably quieter than normal last weekend. No one seems interested in trying to sort the mess out or seriously try to put Putin in his place. Instead of wishing for other people to send their sons to fight and die, you are very welcome to fly over to Ukraine and fight the Russians yourself if you feel so strongly about teaching Putin a lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops_Hants Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Robden said: Putin could pack up and go home. Prices won't come down again. This. Once prices have increased, they'll remain there. Just look at oil, fuel never decreases by the same ratio as it increases in relation to barrel price. Cartridge prices might see a very minor drop if there were reductions elsewhere, but theses higher prices are here to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 21 hours ago, grahamch said: Its getting to the point where folk cant afford to shoot much. Bywell was noticably quieter than normal last weekend. No one seems interested in trying to sort the mess out or seriously try to put Putin in his place. And IF they did, do you seriously believe cartridge prices will come down again ? 21 hours ago, moondoggy said: Is it just cartridge prices, or is the cost of cartridge reloading materials going up by the same amount? Just wondering if reloading will become worthwhile again? No, what happened years ago after the explosion at the Eley factory and cartridges were scarce, people began home loading on a large scale. It did not take long for the cost of the loading components to escalate in price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Westley said: And IF they did, do you seriously believe cartridge prices will come down again ? No, what happened years ago after the explosion at the Eley factory and cartridges were scarce, people began home loading on a large scale. It did not take long for the cost of the loading components to escalate in price. I would suggest components are already expensive. Currently for components, Inc share of bulk postage but excluding labour New 70mm Primed Case 8p Powder 10p 4mm Over Powder Card 1.5p 18mm Diana Wad 2.8p 32g Lead Shot 16.6p Overshot Card 1.1p Total 40p per cartridge or £10 a box or £400\thousand. Home loading, general rounds or lighter clay rounds isn't any cheaper than can be bought but once you go up to non standard rounds, small bore rounds or 36g or above in 12b, it starts to be worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Stonepark said: I would suggest components are already expensive. Currently for components, Inc share of bulk postage but excluding labour New 70mm Primed Case 8p Powder 10p 4mm Over Powder Card 1.5p 18mm Diana Wad 2.8p 32g Lead Shot 16.6p Overshot Card 1.1p Total 40p per cartridge or £10 a box or £400\thousand. Home loading, general rounds or lighter clay rounds isn't any cheaper than can be bought but once you go up to non standard rounds, small bore rounds or 36g or above in 12b, it starts to be worthwhile. Supply.......Demand.........Price ! At the time I was reloading, we were still shooting 32 gram on clays. Mind you there was a steady supply of Winchester AA cases for reloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just arrived in inbox...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) On 08/02/2023 at 07:17, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes I had the same Email form Just cartridges. Very glad I stocked up a while ago at £190 a thousand. Hello, I've still have some cheap Kent's when they were around £100 a 1000, even some of the Agriculture farm shops cartridges are cheaper than JC Edited February 10, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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