Bigbob Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 That's nothing new i remember years ago folk on the bru trying to get extra money saying they where a Alky 40 minutes ago, Scully said: From millionaires to the destitute, drug abuse or dependancy isn’t really a lifestyle choice, there can be countless other factors involved. But i for one are not interested IT WAS THERE CHOICE TO SHOVE THAT STUFF UP THERE NOSE OR INJECT IT Now they get a allocated time to go to a chemist and get methadone and a lot of police time is taken up by junkies who rapidity steal stuff as they ned to pay for there daily fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted February 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Bigbob said: That's nothing new i remember years ago folk on the bru trying to get extra money saying they where a Alky But i for one are not interested IT WAS THERE CHOICE TO SHOVE THAT STUFF UP THERE NOSE OR INJECT IT Now they get a allocated time to go to a chemist and get methadone and a lot of police time is taken up by junkies who rapidity steal stuff as they ned to pay for there daily fix Totally agree Bob, it is there choice, no one is running about sticking needles, substances into there body, they do it on there own accord. As for the mental health, family situations, under pressure carp, it doesnt wash with me. Simple solution= say no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Bigbob said: That's nothing new i remember years ago folk on the bru trying to get extra money saying they where a Alky But i for one are not interested IT WAS THERE CHOICE TO SHOVE THAT STUFF UP THERE NOSE OR INJECT IT Now they get a allocated time to go to a chemist and get methadone and a lot of police time is taken up by junkies who rapidity steal stuff as they ned to pay for there daily fix Your grasp of this is clearly on a par with that of your grasp on ‘carriers’ of covid and vaccines! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, billytheghillie said: Totally agree Bob, it is there choice, no one is running about sticking needles, substances into there body, they do it on there own accord. As for the mental health, family situations, under pressure carp, it doesnt wash with me. Simple solution= say no! That is the attitude that causes so many deaths from suicide, mostly amongst men. It's the attitude that stops people looking for help in the right areas and it's the attitude that drives them to drink. I've seen it far too often for it to feel anything other than commonplace. Then it's left to people like me to help pick up the pieces for their kids. You know what I hear from the adults about their drinking? 'I never thought it would happen to me'. Nobody chooses it. Some are much more prone to it than others, but for many, it's insidious. It creeps up without them ever aware it's happened. It is not THEIR choice. It's often too late way before they're conscious a choice could have ever been made. My issue with this method of treatment is that alcohol inhibits cognitive processing. Allowing people to keep drinking stops them from thinking clearly and hides the reality of their own situation. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that it does work, because for some it will be the only thing that does, but I'm not convinced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 8 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: That is the attitude that causes so many deaths from suicide, mostly amongst men. It's the attitude that stops people looking for help in the right areas and it's the attitude that drives them to drink. I've seen it far too often for it to feel anything other than commonplace. Then it's left to people like me to help pick up the pieces for their kids. You know what I hear from the adults about their drinking? 'I never thought it would happen to me'. Nobody chooses it. Some are much more prone to it than others, but for many, it's insidious. It creeps up without them ever aware it's happened. It is not THEIR choice. It's often too late way before they're conscious a choice could have ever been made. My issue with this method of treatment is that alcohol inhibits cognitive processing. Allowing people to keep drinking stops them from thinking clearly and hides the reality of their own situation. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that it does work, because for some it will be the only thing that does, but I'm not convinced yet. And another good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted February 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 19 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: That is the attitude that causes so many deaths from suicide, mostly amongst men. It's the attitude that stops people looking for help in the right areas and it's the attitude that drives them to drink. I've seen it far too often for it to feel anything other than commonplace. Then it's left to people like me to help pick up the pieces for their kids. You know what I hear from the adults about their drinking? 'I never thought it would happen to me'. Nobody chooses it. Some are much more prone to it than others, but for many, it's insidious. It creeps up without them ever aware it's happened. It is not THEIR choice. It's often too late way before they're conscious a choice could have ever been made. My issue with this method of treatment is that alcohol inhibits cognitive processing. Allowing people to keep drinking stops them from thinking clearly and hides the reality of their own situation. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that it does work, because for some it will be the only thing that does, but I'm not convinced yet. What a load of bull manure, " Nobody chooses it " ? I chose not to drink, i chose not to stick needles in my arm. Everyone has a choice, you either say yes or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: What a load of bull manure, " Nobody chooses it " ? I chose not to drink, i chose not to stick needles in my arm. Everyone has a choice, you either say yes or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Houseplant said: Come again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 11/02/2023 at 18:08, billytheghillie said: ...family situations....it doesnt wash with me. Doesn't have to, it is a big factor in learned behaviour. Have a Google or just stick with your "...doesn't wash with me." it's up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted February 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: Come again? He is agreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 13 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: Come again? Wrote a post while on a nightshift which is never a good time to express oneself, so thought better of it. Does arguing with strangers on the other side of the planet actually make anything better anyway? There's a lot of alcoholism in my extended family and even in my nuclear family (mother). Let's just say I'm not sympathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 My wifes family are funny with their Step-Dad - He "was an alcoholic" - for me it is Nope - he uses drink as an excuse to get out of things buut he isn't an alcoholic because he can walk into a pub and have a drink with or without a meal and leave it at that. He got made redundant just before my wedding to his daughter - got a bit of a payout - and then proceeded to spend all day in the pub drinking and playing pool - then come home and cry to my wife that he can't afford to pay anything towards the wedding. As soon as we were married he stopped drinking and went working on the taxi's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 SHES JUST RESIGNED........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, millrace said: SHES JUST RESIGNED........ You beat me to it!!!! But methinks that a lot more needs to go as well from there - as her mindset will be endemic in the party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 What’s that line from the Wizard of Oz 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, millrace said: SHES JUST RESIGNED........ Oh man, that just made me very happy 😃 (Had to suspend my glee until I checked the news 😂) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1100 press conference.. we will find out if just resigning from FM post or as an MSP as well... Bear in mind ,Polis are still investigating the missing £600k (could only be authorised By Krankie and her husband, not forgettinge there are numerous law suits pending over COVID deaths in care homes and that this might be the real reason together with the GRA fiasco, rather than the no doubt, "can only shoulder the burden for so long" lines that will be trotted out at the press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I’m amazed at how well the Welsh and the Scottish are doing on their respective journeys to independence - be careful what you wish for…. Mind you, there’s some people in Europe probably saying the same about us and Brexit 😆 Just now, Stonepark said: rather than the no doubt, "can only shoulder the burden for so long" lines that will be trotted out at the press conference. That’s a solid bet. The left, the brain dead woke and the luvvies lapped that ‘line’ up when that idiot in New Zealand jumped off her particular sinking ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mungler said: when that idiot in New Zealand jumped off her particular sinking ship. Did you see the body language analysis of her statement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 cant believe im writing this ..................what say you.... the scottish folk on here ....????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 its already on Cranky land thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: its already on Cranky land thread ahhh so it is sorry about that...........disregard this thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 if its true its the best thing that is ever happened for scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, scarecrow243 said: if its true its the best thing that is ever happened for scotland Depends who takes over.. sometimes better the devil you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Been a long time coming , to much in denial to see her own problems she has caused the last one been t he gender bill . Now close it down , not fit for purpose , another tony Blair mistake Edited February 15, 2023 by johnphilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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