Scully Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 As posted earlier had to go into big town to organise new debit card after previous one was compromised. Had a bank statement and SGC plus credit card and debit card with me but obviously staff in big town don't know me and after a cursory look at my credit and debit cards and bank statement and SGC I was asked if I had any other proof of ID. I asked if my SGC was not good enough and was told my passport would have been better ! After explaining the process involved prior to being granted a FAC/SGC, including a GP's letter, she sought further advice and returned 10 minutes later and asked me loads of further security questions, which was fair enough; I wouldn't expect anything else. The lady was pleasant enough and just doing her job and we had quite good craic, and I have no complaints, but just wondered if anyone else had found that their SGC or FAC was not valid for some companies as proof of ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffwales Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) I needed clearance for working in a nuclear site, I showed my sgc they said it was possibly the best I'd you could have. Edited September 12, 2015 by geoffwales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 You would hope a certificate is on par with a passport, but i suppose there are people out there who have never seen a certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Few years back i had to cash something at the PO and it asked for id on the form. My passport had expired so i took along my FAC & SGC,but they said no. So i then took out my very old and very tattered pink paper driving licence. My old licence was in such a bad way that parts of it were unreadable. It also dont have a picture,but they accepted it without question. Now i have a photocard licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think it's more of what Bank I'd code of practice is basically,if it's not on their list then they won't accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think rules, procedures or 'tick lists' have taken the place of initiative. If the person who produced the list of 'acceptable' proofs of identity did not include SGC or FAC, then you're often 'out' if you wave one about as evidence of your identity. Believe it not, it's not unheard of for HM Forces Identity cards to be equally inadmissible because someone didn't put them on the company 'list'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 this one has always puzzled me , i can only assume that its because most average folks wouldnt know what a fac/sgc is. i dont have a passport so i use mine from time to time , it mainly just gets a blank stare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 It's because most normal folk have never seen a FAC or SGC so would have no reference as to whether it is genuine or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy trigger Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I to have had my SGC refused as proof of who I am, but they accepted my Bus Pass !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 But don't let them copy your SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think in general the police advise against using sgc as proof and as some take copies not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpoonlouis Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Bonkers most of the time. I went to buy some US Dollar from the Post Office counter and I was asked to produce photo ID which I took exception to. I was trying to pay with a debit card, which would have left an audit trail anyway, then I was told that I didn't need ID if I paid cash! I stepped 2 paces to the left and used an ATM in the Post Office and then paid for my dollars in cash leaving no audit trail.......I was told ( wrongly) that this was all to do with Money Laundering Regs. Total muppets. Edited September 12, 2015 by harpoonlouis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Bonkers most of the time. I went to buy some US Dollar from the Post Office counter and I was asked to produce photo ID which I took exception to. I was trying to pay with a debit card, which would have left an audit trail anyway, then I was told that I didn't need ID if I paid cash! I stepped 2 paces to the left and used an ATM in the Post Office and then paid for my dollars in cash leaving no audit trail.......I was told ( wrongly) that this was all to do with Money Laundering Regs. Total muppets. The money laundering paranoia is as you say out of hand.I gave my daughter a bungalow for free and the solicitor went into a total panic as she said it came under the money laundering. Surely there would have to be some money involved for it to be as such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think in general the police advise against using sgc as proof and as some take copies not a good idea. Mine wasn't photocopied. I told her she couldn't do that as it is Crown copyright. She did make a note of the issuing office, expiry date and cert' number however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Sorry, but I wouldn't be using either my SGC or a FAC if I had one for ID What are you thinking? Hi My name is ****** and I have guns in my house? Call me a cynic, but is that not a bit silly??? You dont know the person your showing it to has no past, nor current connection to gangs, or criminal rings etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I have shown SGC/FAC as proof of identity at Banks, etc., but normally when I wasn't expecting to have to show proof. They have always been accepted as they are a "photographic identity". When I know I need to show proof, I take my Passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpoonlouis Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Bostonmick, agreed, Tried selling a piece of land lately? ID1 or ID2 forms? I get my solicitor to witness them and chuck some money in the Air Ambulance fund as we both roll our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Sorry, but I wouldn't be using either my SGC or a FAC if I had one for ID What are you thinking? Hi My name is ****** and I have guns in my house? Call me a cynic, but is that not a bit silly??? You dont know the person your showing it to has no past, nor current connection to gangs, or criminal rings etc I would agree, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, the police generally advise against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Always show mine shove shooting in folks faces invited to Buck House garden party last year had to show photo ID at the gate Guy said do not get many of these in you go. Next person in my good lady yep another shotgun cert. If its good enough for HRH it should be good enough anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I took my fire arms and shotgun certs for my SIA licence and they accepted them but as one item of proof and said I still needed another LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 But don't let them copy your SGC. I tried to photocopy mine to have a'carry about copy'. The word FRAUD appeared on the home made copy. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Sorry, but I wouldn't be using either my SGC or a FAC if I had one for ID What are you thinking? Hi My name is ****** and I have guns in my house? Call me a cynic, but is that not a bit silly??? You dont know the person your showing it to has no past, nor current connection to gangs, or criminal rings etc A tad paranoid perhaps? There are many many people out there who know I own guns and where I live, from the ladies at the local NFU office where my guns are insured (cost me 7 quid to insure my Perazzi incidentally) to all the GP's and staff at my local clinic, to all the staff in my local bank and all those in my local building society, to all the local bobbies and licensing staff at Carleton Hall Police HQ, to almost everybody in my local town and many Pw'ers I've swapped addresses with over the years. I don't think I'll lose much sleep over another bank employee knowing likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I had to show photo ID at a military base and had a photo of my SGC on my iPhone which was ok for the army. They didn't like my company-issue ID card but a photo of my gun licence was ok!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I broke down on the A1 on the way to Glasgow ,so needed to hire a car to continue my journey as the car was not instantly repairable, as luck would have it my certificate and permission letters were in the car which cam in handy as apparently I needed 3 proofs of ID with address to hire a car!! Never had that issue abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Passport as evidence of ID - someone is 'avin' a larf. The most I have come across is one person with 11 passports issued to them, in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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