rovercoupe Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just looking at crossbows for a bit of fun and came across this thing, legal but for how long? Can even be delivered to your door! http://www.outdoorhobbies.co.uk/benjamin-pioneer-airbow-scope-package-free-target-4997-p.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 At that price i cant imagine there are many to ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) I understand the shooting community opposition's towards supporting further legislation given the precedent's that given an inch the authorities will take a mile, however I see no justification for such a ‘firearm'. Hunting with such a device is illegal and it is of no use to target shooters. Its appearances alone naturally attracts undesirable owners who will undoubtedly tar law abiding crossbow and archery owners with the same reputation! Edited February 8, 2017 by zipdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 £1,099.99. I'll have 4. Have the boy bring them around in the morning. What is it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I understand the shooting community opposition's towards supporting further legislation given the precedent's that given an inch the authorities will take a mile, however I see no justification for such a firearm'. Hunting with such a device is illegal and it is of no use to target shooters. Its appearances alone naturally attracts undesirable owners who will undoubtedly tar law abiding crossbow and archery owners with the same reputation! I reckoned n compound bows should be banned for the same reasons. Why can these people stick to long bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I reckoned n compound bows should be banned for the same reasons. Why can these people stick to long bows.Please tell me this post is ironic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I understand the shooting community opposition's towards supporting further legislation given the precedent's that given an inch the authorities will take a mile, however I see no justification for such a ‘firearm'. Hunting with such a device is illegal and it is of no use to target shooters. Its appearances alone naturally attracts undesirable owners who will undoubtedly tar law abiding crossbow and archery owners with the same reputation! Respectfully, just because you can't see the justification, why would you assume someone else can't? That's a dangerous path because someone might think you can't justify what you have possess and where does that stop? I just love all of this let's ban it talk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I understand the shooting community opposition's towards supporting further legislation given the precedent's that given an inch the authorities will take a mile, however I see no justification for such a ‘firearm'. Hunting with such a device is illegal and it is of no use to target shooters. Its appearances alone naturally attracts undesirable owners who will undoubtedly tar law abiding crossbow and archery owners with the same reputation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I actually quite like the look of that. I also hate the word "ban". Why should it be banned? Certified somehow probably, but not banned. It seems that in this country the first thing to be shouted when something we don't like appears is "ban it". Having that coming from the shooting community of all places is quite surprising. Applying a logical control method could be a viable alternative and that would almost completely remove the issue of them being used by folk who want them for a criminal activity. Lets face it, at a grand a pop and a tenner a shot if you don't retrieve your bolt, I can't see many deprived area wannabe gangsters walking the streets with one of these and using it to take pot shots at Mrs Smith's cat. As far as danger is concerned, a car could do far more damage and they're everywhere. A little perspective is needed I think. For a real criminal, a black market Glock could be had for similar money. The ammo would be cheaper, the rate of fire higher and it's considerably more concealable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Respectfully, just because you can't see the justification, why would you assume someone else can't? That's a dangerous path because someone might think you can't justify what you have possess and where does that stop? I just love all of this let's ban it talk! I thought that. Then I saw the photo! Just make it a firearm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav05 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I certainly think certification is probably better than banning things.i was chatting to a bloke about bows and compound bows and was really impressed with the distance and FPS he was quoting and yet thease aren't licenced why? Thy hunt deer etc in other countries with bow so in the wrong hands they would be dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Bows aren't very gangster. You won't get much street cred running around downtown Manchester Robin Hood style.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Its a very niche market for such things,and as has been mentioned hunting with any type of bow is illegal in this country. In the US though ,these things have been available for a while now,and bow hunting is very popular over there. As for banning it ,no. But it should be a sec 1 simply because its an air weapon firing a projectile at over 12 ft lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Bows aren't very gangster. You won't get much street cred running around downtown Manchester Robin Hood style.... :lol: I think it looks pretty cool tbh, an air what ever its classed as dedicated to shooting arrows? What's not to like Edited February 9, 2017 by Hendrix's rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) youtube "twang & bang" does a review its very accurate in the test & with 156ft/lbs of energy pretty powerful. if i had more money than sense would have to own one . Edited February 9, 2017 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Army version of this would be deadly on sentrys eh,almost silent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagantino Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Respectfully, just because you can't see the justification, why would you assume someone else can't? That's a dangerous path because someone might think you can't justify what you have possess and where does that stop? I just love all of this let's ban it talk! What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think the shooting community is doomed, when I hear fellow sports people advocating banning others enjoyment because they can't see a need for it, what support can we expect off Joe public. I don't claim to know anything about this product, or much about bows in general, but I'd better a pound to a penny there's been very little problems caused by ownership of this product, so why ban it? I find it a very strange attitude, especially when it comes from fellow shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think the shooting community is doomed, when I hear fellow sports people advocating banning others enjoyment because they can't see a need for it, what support can we expect off Joe public. I don't claim to know anything about this product, or much about bows in general, but I'd better a pound to a penny there's been very little problems caused by ownership of this product, so why ban it? I find it a very strange attitude, especially when it comes from fellow shooters. Very True A shooters worst enemy is his fellow shooter. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Very True A shooters worst enemy is his fellow shooter. Feltwad Indeed, often evidenced right here on this Forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think the shooting community is doomed, when I hear fellow sports people advocating banning others enjoyment because they can't see a need for it, what support can we expect off Joe public. I don't claim to know anything about this product, or much about bows in general, but I'd better a pound to a penny there's been very little problems caused by ownership of this product, so why ban it? I find it a very strange attitude, especially when it comes from fellow shooters. I can see no reason to ban it - It is an air weapon of above 12 ft pounds and therefore covered by an FAC so to acquire and hold it needs to be on ticket. To put on ticket you need good reason to hold - if anyone in the UK can show good reason to hold this I say good luck to them, peronally I can't think of good reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 It's the sort of thing I could carry when I'm dressed in my black pyjamas, like a ninja and imagining I'm a secret agent assassin. Waste of time over here on targets - Possibly useful somewhere abroad where you can shoot an arrow at an animal and have more money than sense or something blocking you from having a gun licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Not my cup of tea - but "each to their own"... Of course they shouldn't be banned just because they're different. It's not a new concept, stomp rockets and McDonalds straw sheaths work the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I have no need for a semi-auto .22lr should we ban them? It's not my sort of thing but I don't see why it should be banned. All bows and crossbows are designed for hunting which is illegal here but we still find a legal use for them, why will this be any different. I could see this been good for disabled people to get in to the sport, looks like it would be easier for someone to cock than drawing a bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Maybe with short range but high accuracy over that range then maybe shooting those nice bunnies would be a good reason to change the law Bloody stupid film shooting a buffalo though, not clever even though Indians used to shoot them with bow and arrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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