Pensioner arrested after fatally stabbing burglar

[RockySpears]

2 hours ago, dougall said:

if it is as reported no Jury will put him away.

  If he is charged with anything it will mean he has a record, this will be on a "Disclosure" report and will disqualify him from many volunteer roles.  I may be wrong but as yet, there is no way to "remove" a charge from your history, even if you are found not guilty.  So, if he were a younger man, there are many positions he would be unable to apply for.

  A completely innocent person, found to be so by a jury, still has a record I think,

RS

[Hamster]

Really hoping they let this man go before the day is out. 

[DanBettin]

If he's convicted, it means, in essence, that he was presented with a right and a wrong decision, and chose the wrong decision, and must be punished for it.

In which case, I'd like to know what prosecutors would suggest the right thing to do was.

 

Edited April 4, 2018 by DanBettin

[mossy835]

good on him, give him a medal.

[loriusgarrulus]

He deserves a medal not arresting.

[Pistol p]

I'm hoping that when it all comes out in the wash, that it reads something like,

" retired soldier confronts tracksuit wearing chav thief with a fixed bayonet".

Hopefully it wasn't a family issue involved.

[amateur]

May be they will make a film of it with, perhaps, Michael Caine in the lead role.

I wonder what it would be called?

[TriBsa]

How can the charge be murder, I thought by definitition it needed to be premeditated?

[decoy1979]

Local ward Councillor Mark Ingleby described the killing as a "tragedy" and said it had come "out of the blue".

So now it's a tragedy that a person entered a vulnerable mans home armed with a weapon and gets killed as a result? Just about sums this Country up for me.  What would he have said if the homeowner took an absolute pasting, homeowner gets what he deserves for confronting intruder? 

[kenholland]

made my day when I heard about this, one brain dead reject that won't be doing any more crime, hope he has gone to the devil to do his time.

[Remimax]

On 4/4/2018 at 17:54, decoy1979 said:

Local ward Councillor Mark Ingleby described the killing as a "tragedy" and said it had come "out of the blue".

So now it's a tragedy that a person entered a vulnerable mans home armed with a weapon and gets killed as a result? Just about sums this Country up for me.  What would he have said if the homeowner took an absolute pasting, homeowner gets what he deserves for confronting intruder? 

mark ingleby obviously lives in a bubble what  an ********.

charged with murder , thought April the 1st had been and gone.

[Gordon R]

The Police have erred on the side of caution. There has been a burglary, then a struggle and someone is dead. I will lose no sleep whatsoever that a burglar has died, but feel sorry for the householder.

On the facts, as we know them, there would seem little prospect of a charge and successful prosecution. A lot might well have depended on what the householder said at the time.

[stumfelter]

1 minute ago, Gordon R said:

The Police have erred on the side of caution. There has been a burglary, then a struggle and someone is dead. I will lose no sleep whatsoever that a burglar has died, but feel sorry for the householder.

On the facts, as we know them, there would seem little prospect of a charge and successful prosecution. A lot might well have depended on what the householder said at the time.

He probably said "have some of this you robbing b*******!"

[Gordon R]

The elderly householder, whilst in a state of obvious shock, might well have said something which he would not have said in a calmer moment.

[Vince Green]

One less to bother about, I don't suppose the world will miss him.

They will never be able to put the old boy on trial, that's just not going to be a possibility 

Edited April 4, 2018 by Vince Green

[Retsdon]

I imagine that he's been arrested and released on bail while they try to establish exactly what  happened. Doing things by the book...

[Bazooka Joe]

He should be carried shoulder high.

The only thing he done wrong was he didn't give the same fate to the second cretin upstairs.

I hope the arrest is a formality & he isn't charged.

[The gouse]

This scum pray on the vulnerable got all what was coming to him good on the old chap

[Retsdon]

'..and if it comes to it, make sure you shoot them inside the house - it saves a moerse load of paperwork ' was the advice I was given by a Cape Town cop after my place got burgled for the second time. Luckily it never came down to it; although during that period I carried a compact 9mm all the time and had more or less steeled myself to using it in earnest. 

The man was being held prisoner by thugs in his own kitchen, in his own house. Who knows what they planned to do with him once they'd finished robbing the place? Consequently any court in the land would deem that he acted in self-defence. He will never, ever be tried in a court. But it's a shame that at his age he should have the worry.

An Englishman's home is his castle - whatever happened to that whole conceor?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Did you mean concept?

[JohnfromUK]

1 hour ago, Gordon R said:

The Police have erred on the side of caution. There has been a burglary, then a struggle and someone is dead. I will lose no sleep whatsoever that a burglar has died, but feel sorry for the householder.

On the facts, as we know them, there would seem little prospect of a charge and successful prosecution. A lot might well have depended on what the householder said at the time.

+1

IF (and I think it highly unlikely) the CPS chose to prosecute, everyone should call for the immediate cancellation of all charges.  I would certainly join any organised peaceful protest (like the anti hunting one for instance) in support of him.

[ordnance]

I am not surprised he was arrested to be questioned under caution.  The police would not be doing their job did not investigate what happened, his age is irrelevant to the need to collect the facts. 

[Wymondley]

7 minutes ago, ordnance said:

I am not surprised he was arrested to be questioned under caution.  The police would not be doing their job did not investigate what happened, his age is irrelevant to the need to collect the facts. 

This.

The  police would be failing in their duty if they didn't carry out a full and proper investigation.

Things are not always as they first appear.

[Lloyd90]

My old boss was in a serious car accident which was caused by the other driver, the other driver was killed in the collision. 

The police had to arrest him and he went to trial. The police apologised to him but said as there was a death involved they had been told it had to go to court by CPS. 

He was acquitted in about 5 minutes and even the Police officers gave evidence to say that the accident was clearly caused by the other driver and it was not his fault. 

Sometimes they have to follow procedure, as they should do in such serious circumstances. 

[Lloyd90]

My old boss was in a serious car accident which was caused by the other driver, the other driver was killed in the collision. 

The police had to arrest him and he went to trial. The police apologised to him but said as there was a death involved they had been told it had to go to court by CPS. 

He was acquitted in about 5 minutes and even the Police officers gave evidence to say that the accident was clearly caused by the other driver and it was not his fault. 

Sometimes they have to follow procedure, as they should do in such serious circumstances.