das Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Picked this share up today, shows you where a lump of the donations go. Yes people have to run and organise the charities but just how much gets to the sharp end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, das said: Picked this share up today, shows you where a lump of the donations go. Yes people have to run and organise the charities but just how much gets to the sharp end? Not much, they all make their money from vulnerable people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, das said: Picked this share up today, shows you where a lump of the donations go. Yes people have to run and organise the charities but just how much gets to the sharp end? How accurate is it? Have you verified it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 40yrs ago a senior official of one of those charities lived on my patch. House in a very nice location and drove a top of the range car as did his wife. Things have not changed over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted November 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Scully said: How accurate is it? Have you verified it? No, but it is in public view, I could mail the CEO and ask them to confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 I work with the Macmillan benefits team, I know how much money we help people claim that they didn't know they were entitled to. Without someone leading the organisation and pointing it in the right direction I therefore know how much they wouldn't get in those benefits. You may not like what people get paid but someone has to do it, and get paid for doing it.....also remember, they don't demand those wages, there is a group of people that employ those CEO's and it's them that set the wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted November 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) As I said, yes, people and staff need to be paid but to me no one is worth some of these amounts, quite frankly no one needs some of these amounts. Edited November 23, 2018 by das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, das said: No, but it is in public view, I could mail the CEO and ask them to confirm. Will they confirm? Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 The irony being that most of these charity CEO's probably have sociopathic traits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 National Trust CEO allegedly £191,000 - the mind boggles because on the estate where we live there is no money in the budget to repair the tenants houses which are falling apart! I could write a book on the wastage and PC correctness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 I refuse to give to a lot of charities inc cancer . It’s not that I don’t care as I’ve lost another friend last week( absolutely heart broke) at 52 years old. It’s the fact it’s not going the right places. To much is lost in admin . I’ve heard of over 80% lost . I give to epilepsy and air ambulance. I can’t see why those figures are paid ? If your working for a charity surely you only take what you need not want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Although I think most charities are only set up to help themselves and use a topical sad news story to extract cash.. £200k isn’t much for a vaguely ok CEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, das said: As I said, yes, people and staff need to be paid but to me no one is worth some of these amounts, quite frankly no one needs some of these amounts. I don’t give to lots of charities for reasons like this, I do support some such as Bernardo’s as I see first hand what their money stops, such as supporting children who are being sexually exploitated and basically pimped out. That aside, it doesn’t matter what YOU think is an acceptable pay. If you want someone to do that job with the level of knowledge and experience to do it well then that’s what you have to pay. Good luck getting some middle management yuppie who’s past roles we’re managing a Tesco store for £40k a year with no experience on this scale to run a multi-national multimillion pound organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 I still can’t believe David Milliband gets between £400k to £600k as CEO for International Rescue! Not a bad salary for a former middling British politician.🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Some charities are clearly really businesses operating in the charity sector. Anyone can register a charity and start collecting money from the public, you only have to look at the RSPCA to realise how easy it could be. Many charities spend more on fundraising than the do on the cause they claim to support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 hello, on the subject of your post and charities, a few years back i read a list of the top 10 in the UK, it was based on for every £ given how much went in salaries and admin, Oxfam then it was 90p with only 10p going to those intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 And then you get stuff like this happening as well https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-46291977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 hours ago, PPP said: £200k isn’t much for a vaguely ok CEO This: They are actually running a significant sized 'business' with a large money turnover and large staff. That needs someone with ability and experience. Such people don't come cheap, but these are not high salaries in the world of Chief Execs. Some take really high salaries and for less worthwhile stuff https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/21/bet365-denise-coates-paid-herself-an-obscene-265m-in-2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 hours ago, team tractor said: I refuse to give to a lot of charities inc cancer . It’s not that I don’t care as I’ve lost another friend last week( absolutely heart broke) at 52 years old. It’s the fact it’s not going the right places. To much is lost in admin . I’ve heard of over 80% lost . I give to epilepsy and air ambulance. I can’t see why those figures are paid ? If your working for a charity surely you only take what you need not want cancer research pays out a big chunk of money raised in salaries, but if you want the best you have to pay the going rate. If you worked as a research chemist for a large pharmaceutical company and an organisation like cancer research head hunted you, would you take a huge drop in salary to move or would you want to be paid the going rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 43 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Some take really high salaries and for less worthwhile stuff https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/21/bet365-denise-coates-paid-herself-an-obscene-265m-in-2017 500 million salary over the last 2 years. 200 million paid in tax, over 100 million donated to charity including large amounts to local causes. Unlike other big companies she pays her way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 It's hardly a lot for what they manage. Pay peanuts get monkeys. These are largely high profile jobs making often difficult decisions, managing media, staff, budgets and politics. Without looking at individual cases they deserve the cash. You do not get a lot of CEO for £100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, toontastic said: 500 million salary over the last 2 years. 200 million paid in tax, over 100 million donated to charity including large amounts to local causes. Unlike other big companies she pays her way. She earns it. It's her company she pays tax on it get on with it. All good in my book. If you want more work harder if that does not work then work smarter. I have just re read the top. Is that right that the CEO of Oxfam only gets £119k that's just not enough. Edited November 24, 2018 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, toontastic said: cancer research pays out a big chunk of money raised in salaries, but if you want the best you have to pay the going rate. If you worked as a research chemist for a large pharmaceutical company and an organisation like cancer research head hunted you, would you take a huge drop in salary to move or would you want to be paid the going rate. Nothing wrong with paying for the research side as that’s what it’s about. I’m just angry at the admin side/top bosses draining it. as I said before mate ... take what you need , not what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, team tractor said: Nothing wrong with paying for the research side as that’s what it’s about. I’m just angry at the admin side/top bosses draining it. as I said before mate ... take what you need , not what you want Why would we want these charities to be run by numpty's on half pay? Do you expect the people working there to be a charity to themselves? We want these things run properly. Poor management is a cost to the business and proper management costs money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, oowee said: . 44 minutes ago, team tractor said: Nothing wrong with paying for the research side as that’s what it’s about. I’m just angry at the admin side/top bosses draining it. as I said before mate ... take what you need , not what you want You don't half talk rubbish, cruk executive pay amounted to 1.7 million last year while 125 million was spent on salaries of all other staff. So in reality it's the scientists and researchers who are draining the funds. The actual costs of running things also took up a huge amount of funds ( office space, laboratorys, energy costs, phone bills, office equipment and other office supplies) Still can't see where 80% of the money is wasted. Edited November 24, 2018 by toontastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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