Dave-G Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Amazing that BBC finally reports on French yellow vest protests rampaging the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 What is it about really? Push back against taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 You can access their manifesto of demands on the internet, I posted it here several weeks ago. It’s basically asking for a revision of uber capitalism and its unjust effects on the great majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: What is it about really? Push back against taxes? That and much more, the people of France are really not happy with their government, over 4 months of rioting every weekend, deaths, injuries, pretty brutal police crackdowns. President Macron still thinks he can ride the storm and survive this, but his unpopularity is the key issue. Any normal leader would step down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Dave-G said: Amazing that BBC finally reports on French yellow vest protests rampaging the country. To be fair, the BBC have reported on this at various times since the protests started, although admittedly the coverage has been sporadic and hardly in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Apparently their demands now include a redistribution of wealth. Fat chance of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 This seems to be a rolling bandwagon with any dissident group chucking on a yellow vest and promoting their cause whatever it is. I understood that it originally started as a fuel tax protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) its the french way.............alot of them are complaining about fuel costs............... anyone know what the price is of petrol and desiel over there is at the moment ? Edited March 17, 2019 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 I saw a video a couple of weeks ago of the Fire Service actually attacking the Police - very bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: its the french way.............alot of them are complaining about fuel costs............... anyone know what the price is of petrol and desiel over there is at the moment ? Looking at various comparison websites, petrol is a few pence dearer and diesel is a few pence cheaper per litre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, ditchman said: its the french way.............alot of them are complaining about fuel costs............... anyone know what the price is of petrol and desiel over there is at the moment ? Petrol a bit more expensive than here, diesel about the same or a bit less or at least it was at the end of November. Witnessed a guy cutting the barriers off the toll booths with a portable angle grinder on the A8 exit for Antibes in the South just outside Nice, looked like he was on his fourth one before the gendarmerie arrived although it wasn't immediately obvious that they were even going to arrest him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Scully said: To be fair, the BBC have reported on this at various times since the protests started, although admittedly the coverage has been sporadic and hardly in depth. Thank's, I had not seen it before, I also noticed SKY reported it - which I have not seen much of. It occurred to me something may have changed about their position on the EU/Brexit status which altered their stance on it - and not much other news apart from the New Zealand killings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 9 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: What is it about really? Push back against taxes? More people struggling to keep up and not content with the inevitable erosion of living standards of the West as other economies grow and take a share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Petrol a bit more expensive than here, diesel about the same or a bit less or at least it was at the end of November. Witnessed a guy cutting the barriers off the toll booths with a portable angle grinder on the A8 exit for Antibes in the South just outside Nice, looked like he was on his fourth one before the gendarmerie arrived although it wasn't immediately obvious that they were even going to arrest him. thats interesting...............i thought it was a lot cheaper there................thats why the lorry drivers fill up extra tanks when coming over here so they dont have to use our filling stations........... but that appears not to be the case anymore,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchers Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Went to France three times by car last year, in May, July and october. There was a large increase between the summer trip and the autumn one, probably more than 10% in fuel prices. Think it was after Macrons fuel rise that the yellow jackets started up. What was started by ordinary people always gets hardliners jumping in later just to cause trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Main stream media are likely portraying them as making unreasonable demands and being either extreme left or right, in reality I think there's a lot of ordinary folk on the street who are sick of Macron and sick of being ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 And sick of the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Main stream media are likely portraying them as making unreasonable demands and being either extreme left or right, in reality I think there's a lot of ordinary folk on the street who are sick of Macron and sick of being ripped off. I think your right with it being mostly ordinary people. Would it make any different who was at the helm? France has an unsustainable social structure and when you row it back it hurts. This has to happen more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: And sick of the EU Yeah I thought of that to but didn't want to start another brexit debate on a separate thread, but I agree. 12 minutes ago, oowee said: I think your right with it being mostly ordinary people. Would it make any different who was at the helm? France has an unsustainable social structure and when you row it back it hurts. This has to happen more and more. Your probably right to an extent, although I think Macron is a particularly divisive individual. Edited March 17, 2019 by 12gauge82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 There seem to be a few reports that the army will be deployed to back up the police this weekend. General Bruno Leray says they may be allowed to open fire if lives are threatened by the yellow vests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, wyn said: There seem to be a few reports that the army will be deployed to back up the police this weekend. General Bruno Leray says they may be allowed to open fire if lives are threatened by the yellow vests. Reported as a ‘biggy’ When In fact this already exists with the Police, all are armed and if the situation dictates then they are able/will shoot. The Army is reinforcing the Police who are fatigued in having to deal, week in , week out, of the protests. So move along, nothing to see but media hype once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 I think what there after should be already in place. Not unreasonable at all, government has given away or sold off and sold its people down the river. The government spends more and thinks they will just tax more, especially stealth taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 I saw a video on you tube about the protests and when you get away from Paris the protesters look very well behaved with fire service and police joining in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, bluesj said: I saw a video on you tube about the protests and when you get away from Paris the protesters look very well behaved with fire service and police joining in. Correct. Where our place is in the South, they sit out every day on one of the roundabouts having a bbq and general socialising. In the next largest town on the coast they are doing the same just off the AutoRoute exit- only difference is they have charity donation type bucket and a few are selling what can only be described as lapel mini yellow vests for €2. No pressure selling or aggression- just a cheery smile and “Bon weekend” given. Work wise, our Company have issued Crew Alerts to be vigilant in and around the hotels that we stay at ( Bordeaux, Lyon, Nice, Toulouse) and I have not heard of a single crew member reporting anything sinister. Paris it does seem, is the epicentre of the protest which in my opinion have been hijacked/ infiltrated, by others who’s intentions are not in the mainstream protesters best interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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