mick miller Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) I broadly agree, but also be very aware of the terms, words and evidence used to add weight to a stance, particularly when that represents the diametrically opposite to what has been stated, with some considerable emphasis, previously. Those opposed to shooting will exploit any chink, however small, and apply leverage to prise open debate and, in their eyes, expose the 'truths' as they believe them to be. It needs more thought than, on the surface, it currently appears to have had (the statement by cartridge manufacturers a case in point). Edited March 3, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 MICK MILLER...I have never read much of anything that you have posted that isn't reasoned, reasonable, and sound common logic. I certainly agree with a large amount of what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just been reading the posts on mark Avery blog, this is how he views banning lead; banning lead is only one of his objections! I think we all know the other objections he and WJ have. Marksays: March 3, 2020 at 11:18 am John - this is One of my objections to shooting! Shooting has gone through decades, to be at our most generous it's a very concentrated decade, of denial of any problems, denigration of all who raised the scientific case against lead, defiance over the consensus, delay over acceptance and we are now in the dawdling stage of doing anything about it. Shooting interests in the UK, inm constrast to many elsewhere in the world, have been disgracefully dishonest over lead and are now dishonouraqbly disinclined to do very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said: Just been reading the posts on mark Avery blog, this is how he views banning lead; banning lead is only one of his objections! I think we all know the other objections he and WJ have. Marksays: March 3, 2020 at 11:18 am John - this is One of my objections to shooting! Shooting has gone through decades, to be at our most generous it's a very concentrated decade, of denial of any problems, denigration of all who raised the scientific case against lead, defiance over the consensus, delay over acceptance and we are now in the dawdling stage of doing anything about it. Shooting interests in the UK, inm constrast to many elsewhere in the world, have been disgracefully dishonest over lead and are now dishonouraqbly disinclined to do very much. Much as i hate to say this the fat **** has a valid point, Game shooters shooting ducks with lead . Come on beyond belief, what were these criminals thinking. We are under their cloud not trusted by anybody not just Averey and his cretins. We have little credibility now largely down to this. The game dealers mistrust us , and quite rightly so, given our abysmal track record. We are repeat offenders year on year. He is also right about our reluctance to change, a great many of us do not want to change from Lead. I wish i could counter the Fat ****** but i just can not he is to put it quite bluntly Right. ! We are at the T junction one way " sinister" left Certain death with Lead the Other ""dexter" right Life after Lead. We need to take control of this situation right now, regain credibility regain the trust of others, and try an right the wrongs of those that would bring our sport into disrepute. Our vipers in the bosun are the Lead shooters who would Break the law so openly so blatantly and have it that we continue to use a toxic shot that has brought us to this junction where we are right now. The shooting Orgs are here offering a way forward, banging drums and shouting was all done on this subject 20 years ago, and got nowhere then. BASC did a great job upholding Lead , but Now the Game dealers its No good, we have to change or disappear its that simple. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Let's not forget the rabbit shooters, pigeon shooters, crow shooters, rat shooters, fox shooters and deer stalkers all getting tarnished with the title of 'raptor persecutors' due to the actions of a few representatives of large, commercial interests and the pressure put on them by land owners to ensure a 'good day's sport'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Could someone post references to papers published in the UK appertaining to the Scientific Case against Lead Shot I have not read any in depth examination of this in any UK shooting magazine . Was all this information deliberately kept from us over the years to stall the introduction of non lead shot? I am aware of American information on the extent of wildfowl being poisoned in shallow pools where they were able to access spent shot but nothing at all on the extent of the problem on the UK foreshore or on UK flight ponds. Regardless ,change or disappear I won’t be disappearing and would like to counter my scepticism on the lead shot debate by reading some science based reasoning for the ban as opposed to the highly emotive “ your poisoning the environment” as I am suspicious that no science based evidence is being quoted to strengthen the case for a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Konor, maybe contact Colin Shedden at BASC Scotland for a list ? In his earlier employment with BASC he did an extensive review into the lead problem and his earliest references were from the 19th century. I still have a copy somewhere but it was about 1984 (!) as I had some involvement with all this before the regulations came in twenty odd years back. Anser2 if he is still on here might help. Suffice it to say that as a sometime professional scientist I would like there to be a case for lead but is a hard one to make. There is unpublished work on the uptake of lead by other than waterbirds but that does not help ! BASC fought a long rearguard action which gave us time to acquire decent NTS for fowling. They did not "sell us down the river" as they were quite powerless after the Blair government signed up to the AEWA. My personal view is that the organisations have taken a brave but necessary step BUT the way it has been handled has been appalling. It has upset many people, confused the issues, and given comfort to our enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 hours ago, mick miller said: I broadly agree, but also be very aware of the terms, words and evidence used to add weight to a stance, particularly when that represents the diametrically opposite to what has been stated, with some considerable emphasis, previously.Those opposed to shooting will exploit any chink, however small, and apply leverage to prise open debate and, in their eyes, expose the 'truths' as they believe them to be. It needs more thought than, on the surface, it currently appears to have had (the statement by cartridge manufacturers a case in point). Ive read a few birding mags and the general consensus i got from them is that, They dont understand why us posh people enjoy killing things, I cant imagine they will ever think differently and eventually it will be down to who has the most money/support wins the day.. unless a serious catastrophe happens to fix their minds elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, islandgun said: Ive read a few birding mags and the general consensus i got from them is that, They dont understand why us posh people enjoy killing things, I cant imagine they will ever think differently and eventually it will be down to who has the most money/support wins the day.. unless a serious catastrophe happens to fix their minds elsewhere So it is a class action because we are all toffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: So it is a class action because we are all toffs! was it ever anything else?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: So it is a class action because we are all toffs! Thats the impression I get, we are the people that needlessly kill things, meat eaters intent on a dubious pleasure to the detriment of the planet, our only recourse [along with livestock farming] is to prove them wrong.. Edited March 3, 2020 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, islandgun said: Ive read a few birding mags and the general consensus i got from them is that, They dont understand why us posh people enjoy killing things, I cant imagine they will ever think differently and eventually it will be down to who has the most money/support wins the day. You raise an interesting historical point. Humans have for millennia killed animals and birds to eat. In winter in the more northern/southern latitudes, fruit and vegetables weren't growing - and preservation wasn't very good - but meat could be obtained fresh. This could be a rabbit, bird or bit of farmed animal (lamb, beef, pork). Hunting was the domain of Royalty and the very wealthy - who could afford all the food they needed from their estates, but enjoyed the thrill of the chase (and the venison/game where applicable. Things have evolved a bit - but the underlying ideas have similarities ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 hours ago, 8 shot said: Why are wildfowlers happy to pollute our shores with plastic wads ? Most wildfowlers offset this when they do their marsh clean ups. You should see the amount of plastic bottles, beer cans, car tyres etc etc etc that we clear up each year. Our small amount of plastic pales into insignificance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Does anybody actually believe, hand on heart, that us voluntarily giving up lead will protect our sport from constant restrictive legislation that will , sooner rather than later, outlaw our love of Guns and Shooting? This current proposal is no more than another nail in our Coffin. The fact that the vast majority of us, and those who speak for us at a higher level, are all bending over and dropping their trousers must have the likes of Packham and his chums laughing at our paltry resistance. I'M NOT VOLUNTEERING TO STOP USING LEAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Push and pull, thanks I'll do that, I'm surprised that Avery et al haven't quoted scientific sources in their acknowledgement of the poisonous effects of lead. And even more surprised that they haven't taken that information and exaggerated it instead just dealing in very general terms that lead in the environment is poisonous. Hence the obvious observation why are the government allowing us to be slowly poisoned by lead water pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Whilst there is no safe lower limit of lead, I have to add, there is also no safe lower limit for alcohol. Now, how many die from lead poisoning annually as opposed to alcohol poisoning? The arguments that lead shot is a toxic threat to humans are, to me, null and void (take the example of the. I think, Slovakian world champ clay shooter who, after firing countless thousands of cartridges over her short lifetime, has no higher level of lead in her system than the mean). The arguments that lead shot kills birds through ingestion and subsequent metabolising into the bloodstream are somewhat stronger, although I'd argue that the risk is an order of magnitude lesser than that posed by vehicles, pylons, disease, other predators, wind farms and the humble pane of glass. The argument that lead shot game is no longer going to be accepted by the EU seems to me to be the real reason why this sudden about face has come about. I feel insulted that this has been forced onto everyone else and then dressed up with announcement about the sudden risks of exposure to lead for everyone else, from pregnant women to waterfowl or that the relatively few duck shot with lead are a justification for it. If you're going to **** everyone else, at least be honest about the reasons you're ******* them. Too much to ask? Edited March 3, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 The one thing that Fatman and Packman can't abide is being ignored which therefore is exactly what we should do. Totally. They have no ability to actually do anything. All they can do is approach the powers that be with their points of view. As long as we remain able to converse with the powers and present our case - science based where applicable - then and as shown with the GLs, common sense can prevail. If you treat something as though it does not exist, sooner or later it won't - East Germany for example. Successive failures will mean that eventually their crowdfunded supply of readies will dry up and then instantly they become yesterday's people. The one major factor in all of this is the fact that they are nothing and have nothing which when faced with the fact that the more people have, the harder they'll fight to keep it. The folk who have it are and always have been a constant and if you think about it, we have just seen a prime example of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Konor said: Push and pull, thanks I'll do that, I'm surprised that Avery et al haven't quoted scientific sources in their acknowledgement of the poisonous effects of lead. And even more surprised that they haven't taken that information and exaggerated it instead just dealing in very general terms that lead in the environment is poisonous. Hence the obvious observation why are the government allowing us to be slowly poisoned by lead water pipes. Because of the cost of replacing the lead pipes with plastic. Edited March 3, 2020 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, mick miller said: Let's not forget the rabbit shooters, pigeon shooters, crow shooters, rat shooters, fox shooters and deer stalkers all getting tarnished with the title of 'raptor persecutors' due to the actions of a few representatives of large, commercial interests and the pressure put on them by land owners to ensure a 'good day's sport'. It is the rabbit shooters, pigeon shooters, crow shooters, rat shooters, fox shooters and deer stalkers who are in the minority when it comes to shooting live quarry, and certainly more so when it comes to the gathering of revenue for the big organisations. Driven game is HUGE business in the UK, worth so much more in monetary value than a few ratters and rabbits. If driven game were to cease tomorrow, how do you think the big organisations would fare? Think about it. I shoot rabbits and pigeons and crows, but I also shoot driven game. As you're so set against big bag days, how many birds released each year would you find acceptable or justifiable, to shoot for sport, and more importantly, how many do you think WJ, Packham, LACS, PETA etc etc would find acceptable or justifiable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, bruno22rf said: Does anybody actually believe, hand on heart, that us voluntarily giving up lead will protect our sport from constant restrictive legislation that will , sooner rather than later, outlaw our love of Guns and Shooting? This current proposal is no more than another nail in our Coffin. The fact that the vast majority of us, and those who speak for us at a higher level, are all bending over and dropping their trousers must have the likes of Packham and his chums laughing at our paltry resistance. I'M NOT VOLUNTEERING TO STOP USING LEAD. exactly why we should be annoyed we can pull our own trousers down and bend over we don’t need ANYONE else doing it for us claiming it’s voluntary is rubbish once you put something like this out there you have no choice but to adopt it’s like packham giving us a concession without being asked he wouldn’t dream of doing so this is starting to really smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Scully said: It is the rabbit shooters, pigeon shooters, crow shooters, rat shooters, fox shooters and deer stalkers who are in the minority when it comes to shooting live quarry, and certainly more so when it comes to the gathering of revenue for the big organisations. Driven game is HUGE business in the UK, worth so much more in monetary value than a few ratters and rabbits. If driven game were to cease tomorrow, how do you think the big organisations would fare? Think about it. I shoot rabbits and pigeons and crows, but I also shoot driven game. As you're so set against big bag days, how many birds released each year would you find acceptable or justifiable, to shoot for sport, and more importantly, how many do you think WJ, Packham, LACS, PETA etc etc would find acceptable or justifiable? I really have no idea, presumably there is an upper limit to what a parcel of land could hold without being overly dense. Equally there must be a lower limit that would make it a pointless exercise. On the farm here they release around 1,500 annually (I think), it's a 250 acre farm. Most of those tend to vanish before the season starts as it's only keepered on a part-time basis. But they have several good days with around 90 - 150 shot between the guns, almost all are picked, returned and shared amongst the guns, beaters and locals. Nothing is wasted, everyone seems to have a good day without having to have a sky blackened with birds. It is nice to see an admission however that it really isn't all about conservation, environmental enrichment, shooting as a whole, target shooting, clay shooting, pest control, toxicity or supporting shooting sports in general but rather about making money and maintaining access to it for the big four organisations. That does rather explain why they appear to have done naff all of use to the rest of us for years and why I no longer bother to support any of them. The nutters in WJ et al would not support any, although Avery himself admits to not being against pest control or deer stalking, likely Packman too although I find it hard to trust a word he says on the matter either. Edited March 3, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: So it is a class action because we are all toffs! In recent years that's all its been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Konor said: Could someone post references to papers published in the UK appertaining to the Scientific Case against Lead Shot I have not read any in depth examination of this in any UK shooting magazine . Was all this information deliberately kept from us over the years to stall the introduction of non lead shot? I am aware of American information on the extent of wildfowl being poisoned in shallow pools where they were able to access spent shot but nothing at all on the extent of the problem on the UK foreshore or on UK flight ponds. Regardless ,change or disappear I won’t be disappearing and would like to counter my scepticism on the lead shot debate by reading some science based reasoning for the ban as opposed to the highly emotive “ your poisoning the environment” as I am suspicious that no science based evidence is being quoted to strengthen the case for a ban. GWCT.https://www.gwct.org.uk/advisory/briefings/lead-ammunition/#human Effects of lead on wildlife Can lead be dangerous to wildlife?Yes. When any bird or mammal ingests spent lead ammunition by mistaking it for grit or foodstuffs, or by scavenging unretrieved shot quarry, it can result in lead poisoning. In addition, animals that are shot but not killed may carry lead shot in their bodies and this adversely affects their wellbeing. How long does lead remain available in the environment for ingestion by wildlife? Lead ammunition degrades very slowly and so may take several decades or longer to become unavailable to foraging wildlife. How big is the problem? Recent published estimates (2015) suggest 50,000-100,000 wildfowl die each year from lead poisoning in the UK, with between 200,000 and 400,000 thought to suffer welfare effects from ingestion or through embedded lead. Is this likely to result in population-level effects in any species? Computer modelling of bird populations and correlative studies suggest that lead poisoning may be affecting population growth rates and sizes in a number of bird species in the UK, including dabbling ducks, diving ducks and grey partridges, and in common buzzards and red kites in Europe. What species are susceptible to lead poisoning? Effects of lead poisoning have been documented extensively in waterbirds, and also in terrestrial birds including game and predatory species. In some species present in the UK, namely mallards, whooper swans and golden eagles, recent studies have shown effects at lower blood concentrations than previously reported. This development reflects conclusions that there is no clear threshold below which human health is not affected by lead exposure. Are there also sub-lethal effects? Yes. Although these are difficult to measure there is increasing evidence of welfare impacts and behavioural change, including in reproduction, predator avoidance, foraging ability and in avian flight. Is this why lead ammunition was banned over wetlands across Europe? The wetland ban came about because, historically in Britain and elsewhere in Europe, the process of lead shot ingestion and its harmful effects were documented first for waterfowl. To alleviate these effects, legislation restricting the use of lead was introduced in England in 1999, Wales in 2002 and Scotland in 2004. Why are wildfowl susceptible to the harmful effects of lead? Wildfowl can ingest lead shot in place of either grit, which they use in their gizzard to aid with digestion, or food. The diving or dabbling feeding habits of wildfowl make it more likely that they will take in shot than species that use other feeding strategies. This shot can then pass either to the stomach, where lead begins to degrade because of the acidic conditions, or to the gizzard, where it is gradually ground down over time, and some of the released lead will be absorbed into the bloodstream. Is this legislation the same across the UK? No. The regulations in England and Wales are based on species as well as habitat, but Scotland and Northern Ireland differ by restricting lead use in certain habitats only. What are these restrictions? In England and Wales the use of lead shot is prohibited: On or over any area below the high-water mark. On or over certain Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSIs). For the shooting of ducks, geese or swans of any species, coots or moorhens, even on terrestrial habitats and farmed land. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the use of lead shot is prohibited for shooting anything on or over all wetland areas. How are the estimates for the number of wildfowl that die from lead poisoning generated? The estimates are based upon published lead shot ingestion incidence in different species, corrected for hunting bias, turnover of lead shot in the alimentary canal, and increases in mortality as a result of ingesting different numbers of lead pellets. Wildfowl that die outside the shooting season will be additional, as will birds dying from the indirect results of lead poisoning. As mortality estimates are relatively high, why are so few dead birds found? Wildfowl that have died of lead poisoning remains largely invisible because sick birds die a few at a time, may hide themselves away, and are more vulnerable to predation (so their dead body may look like a predator kill). The body may also be scavenged or lie in an inaccessible wetland location. Is there any evidence that lead shot exposure is having an impact on gamebirds? A GWCT study published in 2005 found that 4.5% of discovered dead birds contained lead shot in their gizzards and estimated that 1.2% of living wild grey partridges contained ingested lead shot at any one time. Other UK studies report similar findings in pheasants and red-legged partridge but do not record impacts on bird health and welfare. A Canadian study found elevated levels of lead in American woodcock that were traced back to lead shot ingestion. Is there any evidence that lead shot exposure is having an impact on other terrestrial wildlife? Yes. Although little evidence is available from the UK, an increasing number of studies worldwide have shown that predatory birds suffer from lead poisoning through ingestion of spent lead ammunition while scavenging carcasses of unretrieved quarry or discarded offal (‘grallochs’). The most famous example is that of the California condor, which was driven to the brink of extinction by such lead poisoning. It was saved by captive breeding and reintroduction to the wild, combined with a ban on the use of lead ammunition initially across the reintroduction zone and since 2019 throughout California. Is lead shot the only remaining source of lead exposure for wildlife? No. Some areas of the UK have high levels of naturally occurring lead minerals on the ground, but these are localised, whereas exposure to lead ammunition sources is much more widespread and likely to be increasing. Water run-off from lead roof sheeting and the agricultural use of sewage sludge and manure are additional minor sources of wildlife lead exposure, as is the presence of lost lead fishing weights in water bodies (noting that weights under 1 oz have been illegal in the UK since 1987). Is there evidence of non-compliance with existing lead ammunition legislation? Yes. Informal purchases of duck from game dealers in England suggest that up to 70% are still being shot illegally with lead. The GWCT condemns this illegal activity and has periodically emphasised the need for compliance in its publications. Has anyone been prosecuted for illegally using lead ammunition? Not yet. Compliance with and enforcement of the current legislation, designed to protect wildlife in our wetland areas, is essential. Alternatively, it is suggested that a complete ban is the only way to ensure compliance, as has been the case in Denmark since 1996. Would changing to non-lead ammunition reduce lead in the environment? Yes. Data from Denmark suggest that it does reduce environmental lead. In Denmark, compliance with the ban on lead is close to 100% and wildlife exposure has reduced, benefiting the environment, the species and also the hunters. Effects of lead on human health Note: The GWCT, along with most other wildlife organisations, does not have human health experts on its staff. The following advice has been produced by human health experts at the Food Standards Agency (FSA), who are qualified to give advice on the consumption of game shot with lead ammunition. What is the FSA’s advice on eating lead-shot game?“Consuming lead is harmful; health experts advise to minimise lead consumption as much as possible. Anyone who eats lead-shot game should be aware of the risks posed by consuming large amounts of lead, especially children and pregnant women”. “To minimise your risk of lead intake, if you frequently eat lead-shot game meat, particularly small game, you should cut down your consumption. Exposure to lead can harm the developing brain and nervous system. So, cutting down the amount of lead-shot game eaten is especially important for toddlers, children, pregnant women and women trying for a baby”. Has the FSA given advice on the number of portions of game that should be eaten? No, but they do say: “There is no agreed safe level for lead intake. Independent scientific expert groups across the European Union advise that exposure to lead should be reduced as far as possible.” So how do I know if I am a frequent consumer of lead-shot game? We contacted the FSA to clarify this. They stated that: “The levels of lead in game are very variable so that the people who consume the largest quantity of game shot with lead ammunition may not have the highest lead exposure. Because of this, the FSA has not given advice in terms of only consuming a certain number of game portions, as it could be misleading. However, broadly, lead exposure and the risk of adverse effects associated with lead is likely to increase as game consumption increases. Therefore, individuals who consume a lot of game (more than a few times a month as a rough guide) should reduce consumption, particularly of small game or gamebirds killed with lead shot. This is particularly important for children and pregnant women because of the risk to the developing nervous system, even at very low levels of lead exposure.” The term ‘high consumer’ of game meat and offal used by EFSA (2010) described adults with a mean frequency of consumption of game meat of one 200g game meat meal per week, averaged over a year. Is the FSA advice the same for everyone? No. Toddlers, children, pregnant women and women trying for a baby should avoid eating lead-shot game because exposure to lead can harm the developing brain and nervous system. Is lead toxic?Lead is toxic and has a threshold tolerance of zero, which means it is not possible to set a level of intake below which no health impacts would be expected for either wildlife or humans. How does the toxicity of lead compare to other metals? Other metals we are exposed to such as cadmium, mercury, tin, aluminium and copper are less toxic than lead; some of them require at least ten times the dose to reach the same level of toxicity. Unlike lead, they all have tolerance thresholds for either wildlife or humans, so exposure below that level would be considered safe. I thought the human body needed some of these metals? Yes. Copper is an essential element required at low levels for proper functioning of the body, but it is toxic in high doses. However, lead is not required by the human body and remains toxic in even the smallest quantity. How does lead enter the human body? By breathing in air, drinking water, eating food, and (particularly children) ingesting soil and dust. Water and food are the main sources of lead in adults, while lead in air is now at very low concentrations. What happens to the lead that is ingested? The amount of ingested lead that the body absorbs depends on various other dietary factors, for example calcium and protein intake. In a well-nourished adult, around 20% of dietary lead is absorbed and the rest excreted. Where in the body is lead found? Lead in the body is distributed to the brain, liver, kidney and bones. It is stored in the teeth and bones, where it accumulates over time. Human exposure is usually assessed through the measurement of lead in blood. More than 95% of lead in the body is in bones and teeth, and less than 5% is in blood and soft tissues. How long does lead stay in the body? Lead levels in the blood and soft tissues vary quite rapidly, rising and falling in line with exposure over the course of a month or so. Longer-term lead accumulation occurs in the bones and teeth, which can store lead for decades and can therefore be an indicator of lifetime exposure. Does lead stored in the bones stay there for life? Lead in the bones and teeth usually exchanges very slowly with the blood but can be released gradually over a long period of time. This exchange may happen more rapidly during certain illnesses such as kidney disease, or events such as pregnancy, breastfeeding, or broken bones. How does lead affect human health? Increased levels of lead in the blood are associated with effects such as reduced IQ and hearing, increased blood pressure, and reduced kidney function. Children are particularly vulnerable to IQ reductions, even at very low levels of lead. Was lead removed from pipes, paint and petrol on human health grounds? Yes. Increased knowledge about lead toxicity and its impact on human health prompted the removal of lead from pipes, paint and petrol. Has this reduced human lead exposure? Yes. Human blood lead levels in the UK are ten times lower than they were 30 years ago. The main source of lead exposure now is from food and drink. The food includes lead-shot game; the FSA advises people who eat such game regularly to reduce their consumption. Which foods do humans get the most lead from? Intake of lead from background sources is unavoidable. In the average diet, humans ingest lead through a variety of foodstuffs such as bread, tap water, beer, tea and potatoes, as well as those we are encouraged to eat more of for health reasons (fresh vegetables, cereal products). Although these foods and drinks contain very low levels of lead from background sources, they are consumed in relatively large quantities and consequently make up a significant proportion of lead exposure in the average diet. Although the consumption of lead-shot game is avoidable, people consuming this meat, even at low to moderate levels, will substantially increase their exposure to lead. How do levels of lead in game meat differ from those in non-game meat? A report published by the EFSA in 2012 gives the average measured level of lead in non-game meat as 16 parts per billion (ppb), with 5% of samples having levels above 60 ppb. Putting these numbers in context, the EU maximum regulatory level of lead in non-game meat (excluding offal) is 100 ppb. The same report gives an average measured lead level of 48 ppb for venison, 155 ppb for hare and 344 ppb for pheasant meat, with 5% of samples having levels above 124, 475 and 982 ppb respectively. The report states: “Particularly high results were recorded for […] pheasant meat, presumably associated with the use of lead ammunition.” What contribution does lead-shot game make to overall dietary exposure? Meat shot with lead ammunition forms a very small part of the average UK diet. However, there are people who consume shot game regularly, often throughout the year, and this is likely to increase exposure. FSA advice is that those who eat lead-shot game should minimise the amount they eat, especially if eating small game animals such as pheasant and partridge. Can I reduce my exposure by removing lead from the meat? Removing lead shot and some tissue from around the impact area and wound channel (see this video) can help reduce the total lead content of the meat. However, lead ammunition fragments on impact, particularly if it comes into contact with bone structures within the carcass, and these micro-particles are impossible to detect during meat preparation. If these particles are so small, surely they won’t contribute significantly to exposure? Smaller particles have a relatively larger surface, which leads to proportionately greater exposure than may come from intact pellets. A single shot carcase has been shown to contain many of these undetectable fragments. Exposure can be further exacerbated where the meat is cooked in an acidic liquid such as wine. Who advises the UK government on the safety aspects of lead in human food? The UK’s Food Standards Agency (FSA), which works closely with the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the UK Committee on Toxicity (COT). Current advice on lead-shot game is based on a study of consumers of wild game, conducted by the FSA in Scotland and published in 2012. Does the EFSA set a lead risk level? There is no agreed safe level for lead intake. The European Food Safety Authority’s expert Panel on contaminants (CONTAM Panel) concluded in 2010, following a review of the available data, that the Provisional Tolerable Weekly Intake (PTWI) was no longer appropriate and that a new guidance level could not be established, as there was no clear threshold below which the panel was confident that adverse effects would not occur. The opinion concludes that current levels of exposure to lead pose a low to negligible health risk for most adults, but there is potential concern over possible neurodevelopmental effects in young children. This conclusion was confirmed by the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives in 2010. How many people consume game in the UK? It has been estimated that at least one million people in the UK consume wild game at least once per year. Surveys indicate that at least tens of thousands of people from the shooting community are high-level consumers of game, much of which will have been shot with lead ammunition. Background reading Why is lead ammunition under scrutiny? Lead ammunition is now the main source of human lead emissions to soil and has been linked to risks to wildlife and human health. Each of these aspects is considered in more detail below. What are current environmental regulations on the use of lead ammunition? Restrictions on the use of lead ammunition were introduced in England in 1999, Wales in 2002 and Scotland in 2004. Legislation is different across the UK. In England and Wales, the use of lead shot is prohibited: a) On or over any area below the high-water mark. b) On or over certain Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSIs). c) For the shooting of ducks, geese or swans of any species, coot or moorhens. The shooting of species restricted in c) applies to both wetlands and terrestrial habitats. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the use of lead shot is prohibited for shooting anything on or over all wetland areas. Why have the health risks now come to the fore for people consuming game shot with lead ammunition? Medical opinion has altered in recent years and experts have set a zero threshold for exposure to lead. This means that even the smallest quantity will have a deleterious effect. Current Food Standards Agency advice can be found here. Why is lead used for ammunition?Ever since the invention of firearms, lead has been the metal of choice for bullets and shotgun pellets because its high density and softness gives the projectiles good range, penetration and killing power, and its low melting point makes it easy to cast into ammunition. Are there alternatives to lead ammunition? Alternatives to lead ammunition are being continually developed using other metals including steel, copper, tungsten or bismuth. How much of the lead produced is used as ammunition, compared to other uses? Between 10 and 12 million tonnes (2014-2018 statistics) is produced each year worldwide. Lead in ammunition is a relatively minor use (3%), but nevertheless is now the main source of human-induced lead emissions to soil, accounting for 67% of emissions compared with 7% for the next highest source, lead sheet. 80% of lead produced is used to make car batteries and backup batteries for computer and telecommunications networks. In the past, considerable amounts were used in pipes, paint and petrol, but lead has now been removed from those products. What is the Lead Ammunition Group (LAG)? The Lead Ammunition Group was set up in 2010 at the invitation of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) and the Food Standards Agency (FSA). The group was chaired by John Swift (BASC Chief Executive until 2013) and included a range of stakeholders such as the RSPB, Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust, Countryside Alliance, Gun Trade Association, Game Dealers Association and the GWCT, as well as other professionals and academics. On the government side, the Food Standards Agency and Defra, were present; the latter initially provided the secretariat. The group submitted reports to Government in 2015. What was the aim of the LAG? Defra requested that the LAG evaluate the published scientific evidence of the impact of lead ammunition on human health (for people eating shot game), on wildlife and the environment generally, and on livestock grazing on shot-over land. The group were asked to focus on the likely impact in England, pay particular attention to population-level effects, to examine mitigation strategies, and to bring forward consensus recommendations. Did the group deliver a consensus on the future use of lead in ammunition? No. Instead, the 2015 report recognised that viewpoints diverged. Some stakeholders believed that the risks from lead ammunition were not sufficiently proven to justify further restrictions. Others believed that, as the body of scientific evidence globally is compelling, and since replacements for lead ammunition are available and have been successfully used in other countries, it would be prudent to phase out lead ammunition. Furthermore, as some members resigned from the group and were not replaced, a consensus outcome was not reached. This meant that the report did not fulfil the group’s terms of reference. Why did some members of the group resign? They were unhappy with the structure and workings of the group. As a result, there was a dispute over the evidence used and the process followed to produce it. Documents published after a Freedom of Information request supported the view that some members of the group were working to eliminate all risk rather than establish strategies to mitigate risk. What was the conclusion of the final report submitted to Defra? The report concluded that: “It is a matter of political judgment whether the actual and potential risks to wildlife and human health described in the report and associated risk assessments merit further mitigation effort in addition to the regulations for wetlands already in place. If it is decided that the risks to wildlife and human health need to be better addressed, there is no convincing evidence, yet available, that anything other than an eventual phase-out of lead ammunition and phase-in of the non-toxic ammunition alternatives will do it.” What was the response of the secretary of state to the report? The Defra Secretary of State Liz Truss MP wrote a letter to John Swift in July 2016, which said: “…it was disappointing that a number of Group members resigned and that a whole group consensus could not therefore be reached on this important issue. However I fully appreciate the challenges the divergence of opinions within the Group presented you with. “Following receipt of your report, the Food Standards Agency (FSA) sought independent scientific advice from the Committee on Toxicity about the human health risk assessment within it. This has led the FSA to conclude that the evidence provided in your report does not affect their current advice. This advice, which has been in place since 2012 […] “With regard to the impact of lead ammunition on wildlife, we note that the report does not provide evidence of causation linking possible impacts of lead ammunition with sizes of bird populations in England. “In both instances – human health and wildlife – the report did not show that the impacts of lead ammunition were significant enough to justify changing current policy; we therefore do not accept your recommendation to ban the use of lead ammunition. “The use of lead ammunition is already banned on all foreshores, certain SSSIs and for the shooting of all ducks, geese, coot and moorhen. I do, however, recognise that there appears to be an issue with poor compliance with the Lead Shot Regulations and I can confirm that Defra will look at how the existing Regulations on wildfowling can be better implemented. We also understand that the FSA will be considering if action is required to raise awareness of their advice amongst the at-risk population. “As you know the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) has been asked by the European Commission to gather information on the potential risks presented by metallic lead, to establish if there is a case for regulating its use within the European Union; we will keep the evidence presented by the ECHA under review.” Did the Secretary of State seek further clarification of any aspects of the recommendations from the remaining members of the LAG? No. The letter stated that “…this marks the end of the Group which the Government established in 2010, I have no doubt that the evidence you have gathered together will form a useful input to the exercise the ECHA is taking forward. I would like to thank you again for your efforts.” What is the current status of the LAG? LAG was stood down as an official body after the 2015 report but continues to operate independently. However, the government is considering whether any changes to current regulations are required following an update report produced by LAG in April 2018 and the findings of the ECHA review. What additional evidence does the LAG update report present? The 2018 update provides further evidence of the effects of lead ammunition on wildlife, expanding previous evidence to include non-wetland bird species, an additional pathway of exposure resulting in higher estimates of the number of birds suffering welfare effects and population-level effects (an area of weakness in the 2015 report identified by the secretary of state – see letter above), and human health. It also reviews recent developments in international policy and practice. It concludes “that the numerous peer-reviewed papers and other information published since production of the LAG report both support and strengthen its conclusions.” Does the new evidence demonstrate population-scale effects occurring in species in the UK? No, none of the new evidence, except a paper based on computer models, relates to studies in the UK, although a number of species that occur in the UK are shown to be affected. What did the ECHA report to the European Commission conclude? In September 2018, the ECHA reported that its investigation into non-wetland uses of lead in ammunition (gunshot and bullets) and in fishing weights had found sufficient evidence of risk to justify regulating the use of lead ammunition in terrestrial environments as well as those proposed for wetlands. The report was issued in November 2018. The Commission is expected to take a decision mandating the ECHA to take forward the restriction in terrestrial environments, most likely when a new Commission is appointed following the recent (June 2019) European elections. The proposed restriction on the use of lead shot over wetlands is currently being taken forward by the Commission according to REACH process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, lancer425 said: GWCT.https://www.gwct.org.uk/advisory/briefings/lead-ammunition/#human Effects of lead on wildlife Can lead be dangerous to wildlife?Yes. When any bird or mammal ingests spent lead ammunition by mistaking it for grit or foodstuffs, or by scavenging unretrieved shot quarry, it can result in lead poisoning. In addition, animals that are shot but not killed may carry lead shot in their bodies and this adversely affects their wellbeing. How long does lead remain available in the environment for ingestion by wildlife? Lead ammunition degrades very slowly and so may take several decades or longer to become unavailable to foraging wildlife. How big is the problem? Recent published estimates (2015) suggest 50,000-100,000 wildfowl die each year from lead poisoning in the UK, with between 200,000 and 400,000 thought to suffer welfare effects from ingestion or through embedded lead. Is this likely to result in population-level effects in any species? Computer modelling of bird populations and correlative studies suggest that lead poisoning may be affecting population growth rates and sizes in a number of bird species in the UK, including dabbling ducks, diving ducks and grey partridges, and in common buzzards and red kites in Europe. What species are susceptible to lead poisoning? Effects of lead poisoning have been documented extensively in waterbirds, and also in terrestrial birds including game and predatory species. In some species present in the UK, namely mallards, whooper swans and golden eagles, recent studies have shown effects at lower blood concentrations than previously reported. This development reflects conclusions that there is no clear threshold below which human health is not affected by lead exposure. Are there also sub-lethal effects? Yes. Although these are difficult to measure there is increasing evidence of welfare impacts and behavioural change, including in reproduction, predator avoidance, foraging ability and in avian flight. Is this why lead ammunition was banned over wetlands across Europe? The wetland ban came about because, historically in Britain and elsewhere in Europe, the process of lead shot ingestion and its harmful effects were documented first for waterfowl. To alleviate these effects, legislation restricting the use of lead was introduced in England in 1999, Wales in 2002 and Scotland in 2004. Why are wildfowl susceptible to the harmful effects of lead? Wildfowl can ingest lead shot in place of either grit, which they use in their gizzard to aid with digestion, or food. The diving or dabbling feeding habits of wildfowl make it more likely that they will take in shot than species that use other feeding strategies. This shot can then pass either to the stomach, where lead begins to degrade because of the acidic conditions, or to the gizzard, where it is gradually ground down over time, and some of the released lead will be absorbed into the bloodstream. Is this legislation the same across the UK? No. The regulations in England and Wales are based on species as well as habitat, but Scotland and Northern Ireland differ by restricting lead use in certain habitats only. What are these restrictions? In England and Wales the use of lead shot is prohibited: On or over any area below the high-water mark. On or over certain Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSIs). For the shooting of ducks, geese or swans of any species, coots or moorhens, even on terrestrial habitats and farmed land. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the use of lead shot is prohibited for shooting anything on or over all wetland areas. How are the estimates for the number of wildfowl that die from lead poisoning generated? The estimates are based upon published lead shot ingestion incidence in different species, corrected for hunting bias, turnover of lead shot in the alimentary canal, and increases in mortality as a result of ingesting different numbers of lead pellets. Wildfowl that die outside the shooting season will be additional, as will birds dying from the indirect results of lead poisoning. As mortality estimates are relatively high, why are so few dead birds found? Wildfowl that have died of lead poisoning remains largely invisible because sick birds die a few at a time, may hide themselves away, and are more vulnerable to predation (so their dead body may look like a predator kill). The body may also be scavenged or lie in an inaccessible wetland location. Is there any evidence that lead shot exposure is having an impact on gamebirds? A GWCT study published in 2005 found that 4.5% of discovered dead birds contained lead shot in their gizzards and estimated that 1.2% of living wild grey partridges contained ingested lead shot at any one time. Other UK studies report similar findings in pheasants and red-legged partridge but do not record impacts on bird health and welfare. A Canadian study found elevated levels of lead in American woodcock that were traced back to lead shot ingestion. Is there any evidence that lead shot exposure is having an impact on other terrestrial wildlife? Yes. Although little evidence is available from the UK, an increasing number of studies worldwide have shown that predatory birds suffer from lead poisoning through ingestion of spent lead ammunition while scavenging carcasses of unretrieved quarry or discarded offal (‘grallochs’). The most famous example is that of the California condor, which was driven to the brink of extinction by such lead poisoning. It was saved by captive breeding and reintroduction to the wild, combined with a ban on the use of lead ammunition initially across the reintroduction zone and since 2019 throughout California. Is lead shot the only remaining source of lead exposure for wildlife? No. Some areas of the UK have high levels of naturally occurring lead minerals on the ground, but these are localised, whereas exposure to lead ammunition sources is much more widespread and likely to be increasing. Water run-off from lead roof sheeting and the agricultural use of sewage sludge and manure are additional minor sources of wildlife lead exposure, as is the presence of lost lead fishing weights in water bodies (noting that weights under 1 oz have been illegal in the UK since 1987). Is there evidence of non-compliance with existing lead ammunition legislation? Yes. Informal purchases of duck from game dealers in England suggest that up to 70% are still being shot illegally with lead. The GWCT condemns this illegal activity and has periodically emphasised the need for compliance in its publications. Has anyone been prosecuted for illegally using lead ammunition? Not yet. Compliance with and enforcement of the current legislation, designed to protect wildlife in our wetland areas, is essential. Alternatively, it is suggested that a complete ban is the only way to ensure compliance, as has been the case in Denmark since 1996. Would changing to non-lead ammunition reduce lead in the environment? Yes. Data from Denmark suggest that it does reduce environmental lead. In Denmark, compliance with the ban on lead is close to 100% and wildlife exposure has reduced, benefiting the environment, the species and also the hunters. Effects of lead on human health Note: The GWCT, along with most other wildlife organisations, does not have human health experts on its staff. The following advice has been produced by human health experts at the Food Standards Agency (FSA), who are qualified to give advice on the consumption of game shot with lead ammunition. What is the FSA’s advice on eating lead-shot game?“Consuming lead is harmful; health experts advise to minimise lead consumption as much as possible. Anyone who eats lead-shot game should be aware of the risks posed by consuming large amounts of lead, especially children and pregnant women”. “To minimise your risk of lead intake, if you frequently eat lead-shot game meat, particularly small game, you should cut down your consumption. Exposure to lead can harm the developing brain and nervous system. So, cutting down the amount of lead-shot game eaten is especially important for toddlers, children, pregnant women and women trying for a baby”. Has the FSA given advice on the number of portions of game that should be eaten? No, but they do say: “There is no agreed safe level for lead intake. Independent scientific expert groups across the European Union advise that exposure to lead should be reduced as far as possible.” So how do I know if I am a frequent consumer of lead-shot game? We contacted the FSA to clarify this. They stated that: “The levels of lead in game are very variable so that the people who consume the largest quantity of game shot with lead ammunition may not have the highest lead exposure. Because of this, the FSA has not given advice in terms of only consuming a certain number of game portions, as it could be misleading. However, broadly, lead exposure and the risk of adverse effects associated with lead is likely to increase as game consumption increases. Therefore, individuals who consume a lot of game (more than a few times a month as a rough guide) should reduce consumption, particularly of small game or gamebirds killed with lead shot. This is particularly important for children and pregnant women because of the risk to the developing nervous system, even at very low levels of lead exposure.” The term ‘high consumer’ of game meat and offal used by EFSA (2010) described adults with a mean frequency of consumption of game meat of one 200g game meat meal per week, averaged over a year. Is the FSA advice the same for everyone? No. Toddlers, children, pregnant women and women trying for a baby should avoid eating lead-shot game because exposure to lead can harm the developing brain and nervous system. Is lead toxic?Lead is toxic and has a threshold tolerance of zero, which means it is not possible to set a level of intake below which no health impacts would be expected for either wildlife or humans. How does the toxicity of lead compare to other metals? Other metals we are exposed to such as cadmium, mercury, tin, aluminium and copper are less toxic than lead; some of them require at least ten times the dose to reach the same level of toxicity. Unlike lead, they all have tolerance thresholds for either wildlife or humans, so exposure below that level would be considered safe. I thought the human body needed some of these metals? Yes. Copper is an essential element required at low levels for proper functioning of the body, but it is toxic in high doses. However, lead is not required by the human body and remains toxic in even the smallest quantity. How does lead enter the human body? By breathing in air, drinking water, eating food, and (particularly children) ingesting soil and dust. Water and food are the main sources of lead in adults, while lead in air is now at very low concentrations. What happens to the lead that is ingested? The amount of ingested lead that the body absorbs depends on various other dietary factors, for example calcium and protein intake. In a well-nourished adult, around 20% of dietary lead is absorbed and the rest excreted. Where in the body is lead found? Lead in the body is distributed to the brain, liver, kidney and bones. It is stored in the teeth and bones, where it accumulates over time. Human exposure is usually assessed through the measurement of lead in blood. More than 95% of lead in the body is in bones and teeth, and less than 5% is in blood and soft tissues. How long does lead stay in the body? Lead levels in the blood and soft tissues vary quite rapidly, rising and falling in line with exposure over the course of a month or so. Longer-term lead accumulation occurs in the bones and teeth, which can store lead for decades and can therefore be an indicator of lifetime exposure. Does lead stored in the bones stay there for life? Lead in the bones and teeth usually exchanges very slowly with the blood but can be released gradually over a long period of time. This exchange may happen more rapidly during certain illnesses such as kidney disease, or events such as pregnancy, breastfeeding, or broken bones. How does lead affect human health? Increased levels of lead in the blood are associated with effects such as reduced IQ and hearing, increased blood pressure, and reduced kidney function. Children are particularly vulnerable to IQ reductions, even at very low levels of lead. Was lead removed from pipes, paint and petrol on human health grounds? Yes. Increased knowledge about lead toxicity and its impact on human health prompted the removal of lead from pipes, paint and petrol. Has this reduced human lead exposure? Yes. Human blood lead levels in the UK are ten times lower than they were 30 years ago. The main source of lead exposure now is from food and drink. The food includes lead-shot game; the FSA advises people who eat such game regularly to reduce their consumption. Which foods do humans get the most lead from? Intake of lead from background sources is unavoidable. In the average diet, humans ingest lead through a variety of foodstuffs such as bread, tap water, beer, tea and potatoes, as well as those we are encouraged to eat more of for health reasons (fresh vegetables, cereal products). Although these foods and drinks contain very low levels of lead from background sources, they are consumed in relatively large quantities and consequently make up a significant proportion of lead exposure in the average diet. Although the consumption of lead-shot game is avoidable, people consuming this meat, even at low to moderate levels, will substantially increase their exposure to lead. How do levels of lead in game meat differ from those in non-game meat? A report published by the EFSA in 2012 gives the average measured level of lead in non-game meat as 16 parts per billion (ppb), with 5% of samples having levels above 60 ppb. Putting these numbers in context, the EU maximum regulatory level of lead in non-game meat (excluding offal) is 100 ppb. The same report gives an average measured lead level of 48 ppb for venison, 155 ppb for hare and 344 ppb for pheasant meat, with 5% of samples having levels above 124, 475 and 982 ppb respectively. The report states: “Particularly high results were recorded for […] pheasant meat, presumably associated with the use of lead ammunition.” What contribution does lead-shot game make to overall dietary exposure? Meat shot with lead ammunition forms a very small part of the average UK diet. However, there are people who consume shot game regularly, often throughout the year, and this is likely to increase exposure. FSA advice is that those who eat lead-shot game should minimise the amount they eat, especially if eating small game animals such as pheasant and partridge. Can I reduce my exposure by removing lead from the meat? Removing lead shot and some tissue from around the impact area and wound channel (see this video) can help reduce the total lead content of the meat. However, lead ammunition fragments on impact, particularly if it comes into contact with bone structures within the carcass, and these micro-particles are impossible to detect during meat preparation. If these particles are so small, surely they won’t contribute significantly to exposure? Smaller particles have a relatively larger surface, which leads to proportionately greater exposure than may come from intact pellets. A single shot carcase has been shown to contain many of these undetectable fragments. Exposure can be further exacerbated where the meat is cooked in an acidic liquid such as wine. Who advises the UK government on the safety aspects of lead in human food? The UK’s Food Standards Agency (FSA), which works closely with the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the UK Committee on Toxicity (COT). Current advice on lead-shot game is based on a study of consumers of wild game, conducted by the FSA in Scotland and published in 2012. Does the EFSA set a lead risk level? There is no agreed safe level for lead intake. The European Food Safety Authority’s expert Panel on contaminants (CONTAM Panel) concluded in 2010, following a review of the available data, that the Provisional Tolerable Weekly Intake (PTWI) was no longer appropriate and that a new guidance level could not be established, as there was no clear threshold below which the panel was confident that adverse effects would not occur. The opinion concludes that current levels of exposure to lead pose a low to negligible health risk for most adults, but there is potential concern over possible neurodevelopmental effects in young children. This conclusion was confirmed by the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives in 2010. How many people consume game in the UK? It has been estimated that at least one million people in the UK consume wild game at least once per year. Surveys indicate that at least tens of thousands of people from the shooting community are high-level consumers of game, much of which will have been shot with lead ammunition. Background reading Why is lead ammunition under scrutiny? Lead ammunition is now the main source of human lead emissions to soil and has been linked to risks to wildlife and human health. Each of these aspects is considered in more detail below. What are current environmental regulations on the use of lead ammunition? Restrictions on the use of lead ammunition were introduced in England in 1999, Wales in 2002 and Scotland in 2004. Legislation is different across the UK. In England and Wales, the use of lead shot is prohibited: a) On or over any area below the high-water mark. b) On or over certain Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSIs). c) For the shooting of ducks, geese or swans of any species, coot or moorhens. The shooting of species restricted in c) applies to both wetlands and terrestrial habitats. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the use of lead shot is prohibited for shooting anything on or over all wetland areas. Why have the health risks now come to the fore for people consuming game shot with lead ammunition? Medical opinion has altered in recent years and experts have set a zero threshold for exposure to lead. This means that even the smallest quantity will have a deleterious effect. Current Food Standards Agency advice can be found here. Why is lead used for ammunition?Ever since the invention of firearms, lead has been the metal of choice for bullets and shotgun pellets because its high density and softness gives the projectiles good range, penetration and killing power, and its low melting point makes it easy to cast into ammunition. Are there alternatives to lead ammunition? Alternatives to lead ammunition are being continually developed using other metals including steel, copper, tungsten or bismuth. How much of the lead produced is used as ammunition, compared to other uses? Between 10 and 12 million tonnes (2014-2018 statistics) is produced each year worldwide. Lead in ammunition is a relatively minor use (3%), but nevertheless is now the main source of human-induced lead emissions to soil, accounting for 67% of emissions compared with 7% for the next highest source, lead sheet. 80% of lead produced is used to make car batteries and backup batteries for computer and telecommunications networks. In the past, considerable amounts were used in pipes, paint and petrol, but lead has now been removed from those products. What is the Lead Ammunition Group (LAG)? The Lead Ammunition Group was set up in 2010 at the invitation of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) and the Food Standards Agency (FSA). The group was chaired by John Swift (BASC Chief Executive until 2013) and included a range of stakeholders such as the RSPB, Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust, Countryside Alliance, Gun Trade Association, Game Dealers Association and the GWCT, as well as other professionals and academics. On the government side, the Food Standards Agency and Defra, were present; the latter initially provided the secretariat. The group submitted reports to Government in 2015. What was the aim of the LAG? Defra requested that the LAG evaluate the published scientific evidence of the impact of lead ammunition on human health (for people eating shot game), on wildlife and the environment generally, and on livestock grazing on shot-over land. The group were asked to focus on the likely impact in England, pay particular attention to population-level effects, to examine mitigation strategies, and to bring forward consensus recommendations. Did the group deliver a consensus on the future use of lead in ammunition? No. Instead, the 2015 report recognised that viewpoints diverged. Some stakeholders believed that the risks from lead ammunition were not sufficiently proven to justify further restrictions. Others believed that, as the body of scientific evidence globally is compelling, and since replacements for lead ammunition are available and have been successfully used in other countries, it would be prudent to phase out lead ammunition. Furthermore, as some members resigned from the group and were not replaced, a consensus outcome was not reached. This meant that the report did not fulfil the group’s terms of reference. Why did some members of the group resign? They were unhappy with the structure and workings of the group. As a result, there was a dispute over the evidence used and the process followed to produce it. Documents published after a Freedom of Information request supported the view that some members of the group were working to eliminate all risk rather than establish strategies to mitigate risk. What was the conclusion of the final report submitted to Defra? The report concluded that: “It is a matter of political judgment whether the actual and potential risks to wildlife and human health described in the report and associated risk assessments merit further mitigation effort in addition to the regulations for wetlands already in place. If it is decided that the risks to wildlife and human health need to be better addressed, there is no convincing evidence, yet available, that anything other than an eventual phase-out of lead ammunition and phase-in of the non-toxic ammunition alternatives will do it.” What was the response of the secretary of state to the report? The Defra Secretary of State Liz Truss MP wrote a letter to John Swift in July 2016, which said: “…it was disappointing that a number of Group members resigned and that a whole group consensus could not therefore be reached on this important issue. However I fully appreciate the challenges the divergence of opinions within the Group presented you with. “Following receipt of your report, the Food Standards Agency (FSA) sought independent scientific advice from the Committee on Toxicity about the human health risk assessment within it. This has led the FSA to conclude that the evidence provided in your report does not affect their current advice. This advice, which has been in place since 2012 […] “With regard to the impact of lead ammunition on wildlife, we note that the report does not provide evidence of causation linking possible impacts of lead ammunition with sizes of bird populations in England. “In both instances – human health and wildlife – the report did not show that the impacts of lead ammunition were significant enough to justify changing current policy; we therefore do not accept your recommendation to ban the use of lead ammunition. “The use of lead ammunition is already banned on all foreshores, certain SSSIs and for the shooting of all ducks, geese, coot and moorhen. I do, however, recognise that there appears to be an issue with poor compliance with the Lead Shot Regulations and I can confirm that Defra will look at how the existing Regulations on wildfowling can be better implemented. We also understand that the FSA will be considering if action is required to raise awareness of their advice amongst the at-risk population. “As you know the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) has been asked by the European Commission to gather information on the potential risks presented by metallic lead, to establish if there is a case for regulating its use within the European Union; we will keep the evidence presented by the ECHA under review.” Did the Secretary of State seek further clarification of any aspects of the recommendations from the remaining members of the LAG? No. The letter stated that “…this marks the end of the Group which the Government established in 2010, I have no doubt that the evidence you have gathered together will form a useful input to the exercise the ECHA is taking forward. I would like to thank you again for your efforts.” What is the current status of the LAG? LAG was stood down as an official body after the 2015 report but continues to operate independently. However, the government is considering whether any changes to current regulations are required following an update report produced by LAG in April 2018 and the findings of the ECHA review. What additional evidence does the LAG update report present? The 2018 update provides further evidence of the effects of lead ammunition on wildlife, expanding previous evidence to include non-wetland bird species, an additional pathway of exposure resulting in higher estimates of the number of birds suffering welfare effects and population-level effects (an area of weakness in the 2015 report identified by the secretary of state – see letter above), and human health. It also reviews recent developments in international policy and practice. It concludes “that the numerous peer-reviewed papers and other information published since production of the LAG report both support and strengthen its conclusions.” Does the new evidence demonstrate population-scale effects occurring in species in the UK? No, none of the new evidence, except a paper based on computer models, relates to studies in the UK, although a number of species that occur in the UK are shown to be affected. What did the ECHA report to the European Commission conclude? In September 2018, the ECHA reported that its investigation into non-wetland uses of lead in ammunition (gunshot and bullets) and in fishing weights had found sufficient evidence of risk to justify regulating the use of lead ammunition in terrestrial environments as well as those proposed for wetlands. The report was issued in November 2018. The Commission is expected to take a decision mandating the ECHA to take forward the restriction in terrestrial environments, most likely when a new Commission is appointed following the recent (June 2019) European elections. The proposed restriction on the use of lead shot over wetlands is currently being taken forward by the Commission according to REACH process. is it only now that GWCT worked all this out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Thanks Lancer 425 I’ll read through and hit google I’m a GWCT member but it’s only now with the voluntary ban that I’ve focused on the extent of the problem .I was aware of a lot of the earlier stuff that brought in the wetland restrictions here in Scotland but got an Extrema 3 1/2 chambered gun and some steel cartridges and thought that was that. After the LAG findings resulted in no further restrictions I thought that was the end of the matter. Edited March 3, 2020 by Konor Added comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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