chrisjpainter Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 This has been bubbling along in the background for sometime. Joe McCann was killed in 1972 after resisting arrest. The two soldiers don't deny they shot him, but they claimed they acted lawfully. They've been formally acquitted after the prosecutions case collapsed Joe McCann: Trial of two soldiers collapses - BBC News McCann was part of the official IRA. He was killed in April 1972, but the evidence relied heavily on testimonies given in 2010 Historical Enquiries Team, but that evidence was ruled inadmissible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Should never have been in court in the first place.A disgrace and Gov should be ashamed of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Agree with the above. I’m just watching a film called 71 on Amazon Prime about a soldier that accidentally gets left behind ‘enemy lines’ in Ireland when deployed there. It’s a good watch to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Good film, and about time they dropped the case, a soldier needs to be able to make a decision and not be hung drawn and quartered by his her own country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Should not have been prosecuted in first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) And where are the two men sentenced for the murder of the two poor b's Derek Woods and David Howes from the Royal Signals that were murdered in 1988? Released in 1998! The "Good Friday Agreement" should have granted amnesty for any future proceedings against members of the British Army also for all crimes committed (or alleged to have been committed) before 1998...including the (so called) "Bloody Sunday" killings. Edited May 4, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 I was aware the trial had collapsed as I have good friends there in court every day. About time sense was shown. Now the rest need throwing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarta Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 And credit to Jonny Mercer MP who resigned from the cabinet to stand by the two soldiers. A rare thing, a member of parliament with honour and integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 the gov had no intention of allowing a prosecution to succeed same as they had no intention of making those bombers who murdered people face justice just to get a deal done shame on the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 hours ago, matone said: Should never have been in court in the first place.A disgrace and Gov should be ashamed of themselves. Agreed. 51 minutes ago, Stuarta said: And credit to Jonny Mercer MP who resigned from the cabinet to stand by the two soldiers. A rare thing, a member of parliament with honour and integrity. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 The terrorists orgnishions clamed there was a war and their members were soldiers, but when one of them was killed they cried foul you can't have it both ways. He was a well known killer he ignored a challenge and was shot, their actions probably saved lives a medal would have being more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Some sense at last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Excellent news 4 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: I’m just watching a film called 71 on Amazon Prime about a soldier that accidentally gets left behind ‘enemy lines’ in Ireland when deployed there. It’s a good watch to be fair. Yes, a good film, shows the good and bad on both sides. A good watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Do gooders loose again! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Excellent news, for once it looks like all PW is in agreement 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Excellent news, for once it looks like all PW is in agreement 👌 Give it time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ordnance said: Give it time. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 It would be hard to find anyone who believes this is anything other than good news. If only BoJo would honour the commitments he made to Mercer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 The problem is that soldiers are trained to be soldiers - Not police. They should never have been put in the position that they found them selves in. If it was essential that the army was used - and it probably was at the time - then the rules of engagement should have been much clearer. Trouble is that this will all rise up again and again when the next bloke is charged fifty years after the event. Until the politicians face up to their obligations this will go on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Unfortunately politicians have used armed forces as scapegoats since politicians came into existence. As for the rest ,it`s very easy to say what should or should not have happened when you are not on the spot in an environment of fear and confrontation. These cases must stop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted May 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 It seems PigeonWatch has more power than it realises! The government is looking to include a ban on prosecutions for British soldiers for actions done during the troubles. Troubles: Anger at proposed 'ban' on prosecutions - BBC News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: It seems PigeonWatch has more power than it realises! The government is looking to include a ban on prosecutions for British soldiers for actions done during the troubles. Troubles: Anger at proposed 'ban' on prosecutions - BBC News That's because PW is the voice of reason 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: It seems PigeonWatch has more power than it realises! The government is looking to include a ban on prosecutions for British soldiers for actions done during the troubles. Troubles: Anger at proposed 'ban' on prosecutions - BBC News The only issue with that is it will apply to terrorist actions as well, that is equating security forces with terrorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, ordnance said: The only issue with that is it will apply to terrorist actions as well, that is equating security forces with terrorist. The terrorists will never be brought to justice whichever way. Let’s accept that and then we can give our soldiers the peaceful retirement they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: The terrorists will never be brought to justice whichever way. Let’s accept that and then we can give our soldiers the peaceful retirement they deserve. Its not the matter of terrorists being brought to justice, a amnesty for both its equating security force actions with terrorist actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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