Dave-G Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 So who thinks it WILL now kick off? I see three sides of Ukraine now contain Russian forces - that's either a lorra lorra threat or impending action to my mind. Umpteen diplomatic visits appear to have got nowhere. The 'exercises' seem likely to be rehearsals - or at least serious posturing for possible war but I'm wondering if what is really happening could be that the UN is about to accept Ukraine into its fold, hence sending it plenty of armaments and getting our nationals out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 Well, if uk and us citizens have been “told” then it surely means one thing and one thing only…….it’s going to kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 Aye looks like it's going to go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 I feel like if the where going to invade we wouldn’t hear about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 With Biden calling the shots who knows. Four big ones landed at Fairford yesterday and I am sure a few people know far more about what the Russians intend than is being let out. As said, the suggestion British and American citizens leave seems the future doesn't look good for the good citizens of Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 If it does all kick off out there are we getting involved ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 when you get your call up papers..........thats when you need to worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, ditchman said: when you get your call up papers..........thats when you need to worry Drrr Simon , and you have just got yer new Telly , I will look after it for you till you get back 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 minute ago, johnphilip said: Drrr Simon , and you have just got yer new Telly , I will look after it for you till you get back 😀 dodged my call up once....im too old now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: I feel like if the where going to invade we wouldn’t hear about it. Exactly. Makes no sense, you don't campaign in winter, you don't advertise your intentions, and why would you move your border even closer to NATO? There's nothing in it for Russia, its a good old sabre rattling bluff at best, siezed upon by the Whitehouse and MSN, as Russian aggression. When no invasion happens , Biden can say he prevented it , and any idiot that believes it ,will punch the air and whoop, whilst singing the team America theme song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 53 minutes ago, Rewulf said: whilst singing the team America theme song. I wonder if the Film Actors Guild, will make an appearance as well the leader is quite handy with a gun now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Rewulf said: Exactly. Makes no sense, you don't campaign in winter, you don't advertise your intentions, and why would you move your border even closer to NATO? There's nothing in it for Russia, its a good old sabre rattling bluff at best, siezed upon by the Whitehouse and MSN, as Russian aggression. I thought this at first but now I'm not so sure 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, countryman said: If it does all kick off out there are we getting involved ? Apart from to supply weapons no. Edited February 12, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 Hello, according to the Arm Forces minister will will not be sending in any of our Army , am I right in thinking in previous conflicts we've said that before ? then did just that ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 My sister lives in Ukraine, her husband is in the RAF, she was flown back, along with many others nearly 3 weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Rewulf said: Makes no sense, you don't campaign in winter, you don't advertise your intentions, and why would you move your border even closer to NATO? There's nothing in it for Russia, its a good old sabre rattling bluff at best, siezed upon by the Whitehouse and MSN, as Russian aggression. Nobody expects you to campaign in winter, but it can and has been done. I haven't followed this like I would have years ago, but I imagine Russia can just stroll over the border any time they feel like, everybody knows they are there so what's to stop them? Would the Ukraine fight back or just except there's no point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Apart from to supply weapons no. Appears we are hosting four seriously big bombers on our soil and along with numerous other fighters. We ARE involved make no doubt. We only need the French to start shipping arms to Putin like they did in Argentina. Edited February 12, 2022 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 I meant in terms of UK troops going in. We have already supplied alot of weaponry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Newbie to this said: I wonder if the Film Actors Guild, will make an appearance as well the leader is quite handy with a gun now. Probably lost to most 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 Just now, Jaymo said: Probably lost to most 😉 No, not lost, just not worthy of comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No, not lost, just not worthy of comment! Your no fun… Just remember, that’s bad intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Walker570 said: We only need the French to start shipping arms to Putin like they did in Argentina. Unlikely because Russia is the worlds second largest exporter of arms. France has only got a couple of lightly used rifles which have been dropped a couple of times by comparison Russia exports to over 45 countries. Russia uses conflict zones such as Syria to showcase its military equipment to other potential buyers. they couldn't give a monkeys about the human cost. You've only got to look at the death toll or Russian forces in WW2. People like Putin only recognise a severe beating to make them stop doing bad things.. Still he can just sit there being a threat. It ain't costing him any losses of men or materials. YET. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+countries+does+russia+export+arms+to&client=tablet-android-samsung&ei=qh8IYs37Ho32gAbN2ZmoDQ&oq=how+many+countries+does+Russia++export+arms+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEEcQsAM6BggAEAcQHjoICAAQCBAHEB46CwgAELEDEIMBEJECOgUIABCRAjoHCAAQsQMQQzoECAAQQzoICAAQBxAKEB46BAgAEB46CggAEAgQBxAKEB46BggAEAgQHjoECB4QCjoICCEQFhAdEB5KBAhBGABQ0ShYkb0DYPnUA2gBcAF4AIAB1ByIAapmkgEUNS4yNy41LjEuMS4xLjEuMC4xLjGYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Walker570 said: Appears we are hosting four seriously big bombers on our soil and along with numerous other fighters. We ARE involved make no doubt. We only need the French to start shipping arms to Putin like they did in Argentina. B52s and F15s are not first wave planes. They are massive planes that carry massive payloads. It’s a slide of hand. The punch will come from B2s that take off from NewMexico and kick the door in. Or some new plane we never heard of. The thing about America is when a real war breaks you see new technology that you never new existed. America is not going to fight a war with Russia with B52s and f15s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 I agree and understand that BUT my point was they are on our soil and very welcome in my view but that does mean we are involved because there is no doubt that the arrival and shuffling of these pieces of kit are designed as a show of support for the Ukrainians and should it kick off big time the whole world will shudder and we will need more than tin hats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just a quick observation from the Sandringham resurrectionist......... all what everyone wants is to be able to keep warm to be able to afford to eat so right thro the ages the same old reason keeps cropping up........."old men start wars , and young people die in them"....it has always been the same and will never change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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