Winter of discontent.

[Walker570]

22 hours ago, ditchman said:

the problem is THERE ARE NO TORIES...............they are all a bunch of unqualified self serving wasters.....the tories just dont exist in westminster anymore.........

100% and most of them have never done a proper job either...Uni...runner/aide...... shoehorned into a seat.

The BIG problem is 85% maybe higher of the public are so thick they do not look at the suitability of the person putting up but vote the Party, hence the bunch we have in power across the board.

[semi-auto]

RMT striking from the 24th  to the 27th December. Now there's a surprise.

[wymberley]

Bit too late for me now but if I were a few years younger I'd hop on one of those RIBs but going in the opposite direction.

[Mice!]

2 hours ago, semi-auto said:

RMT striking from the 24th  to the 27th December. Now there's a surprise.

They already were were they? Plus a few  other dates, weekends on the run up to Xmas, nothing like getting the public behind you.

I can't imagine anyone who relies on the trains backing the strike action. 

[Newbie to this]

1 hour ago, Mice! said:

I can't imagine anyone who relies on the trains backing the strike action

I don't rely on the trains, and I don't back them. I don't back any strike or union.

It's nothing more than legalised blackmail.

If these people aren't happy in their job, go and get a different one.

[old man]

3 hours ago, wymberley said:

Bit too late for me now but if I were a few years younger I'd hop on one of those RIBs but going in the opposite direction.

Mm, you possibly wouldn't be alone?

Sometimes reflect now of opportunity missed?

[Dave-G]

2 hours ago, Mice! said:

They already were were they? Plus a few  other dates, weekends on the run up to Xmas, nothing like getting the public behind you.

I can't imagine anyone who relies on the trains backing the strike action. 

Except various militant union members and other shirkers who would exploit any excuse to claim they can't get to work. 

[Bobba]

1 hour ago, Dave-G said:

Except various militant union members and other shirkers who would exploit any excuse to claim they can't get to work. 

In a not strike related but similar circumstance bus operators in Bristol have stripped out many routes due to lack of drivers and many of the remaining drivers say they can’t get to work because of lack of buses !!

[Dougy]

6 hours ago, semi-auto said:

RMT striking from the 24th  to the 27th December. Now there's a surprise.

Very limited service on the 24th anyway, and 27th is very very low in passengers numbers 25,26th no service so wont have much impact but it will give them a better break over the festive season. 

[Vince Green]

On 07/12/2022 at 21:02, Newbie to this said:

What is being asked, is about bringing the Tory government down.

It may not be for the workers, but is for the unions.

This ^^^^^

[Vince Green]

On 08/12/2022 at 06:50, Rim Fire said:

Here in Wales free prescriptions if had to pay you wouldn't have so many   in the Doctors with nonsense ailments a lot of it should be means tested  

A family member told me they were going to the doctors because they had athletes foot. (mild)

I said you don't have to go to the doctor, they sell the cream for that in Boots. 

She said yes but if I go to the doctor I don't have to pay for it (true story)

So she would rather waste everybody's time to avoid having to pay about £4 for a tube of anti fungial cream in the chemist. Where she has to go to anyway to take in the prescription

Edited December 10, 2022 by Vince Green

[Mice!]

5 hours ago, Newbie to this said:

I don't rely on the trains, and I don't back them. I don't back any strike or union.

It's nothing more than legalised blackmail.

If these people aren't happy in their job, go and get a different one.

It's probably down to the union bosses, they don't want the ticket offices to close, fair enough,  the cleaners want more money but everyone else is on a good wage already.

Sometimes going on strike is needed, but I don't agree with their reasons. 

4 hours ago, Dave-G said:

Except various militant union members and other shirkers who would exploit any excuse to claim they can't get to work. 

They probably get free train travel anyway,  it's people commuting for work or wanting to go Xmas shopping who are being hit.

I hope people who pay extortionate rail fees can claim money back.

We really are a laughing stock when compared with other countries when it comes to rail travel. 

2 hours ago, Dougy said:

Very limited service on the 24th anyway, and 27th is very very low in passengers numbers 25,26th no service so wont have much impact but it will give them a better break over the festive season. 

I said they must have ran out of holidays,  I hope they will all be outside the train stations while I'm eating my Xmas lunch.

[12gauge82]

While I absolutely agree going on strike is not the right way to get things done, society needs drastic change. Since the crash of 2008, the very wealthy have got far richer, while the average working person has become poorer, even inflation massively benefits the rich as they will move their wealth into assets that will go up as prices rise. Average people are simply not being fairly renumerated for their labour, its getting to the point many would be better off on benefits than working. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

46 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

A family member told me they were going to the doctors because they had athletes foot. (mild)

I said you don't have to go to the doctor, they sell the cream for that in Boots. 

She said yes but if I go to the doctor I don't have to pay for it (true story)

So she would rather waste everybody's time to avoid having to pay about £4 for a tube of anti fungial cream in the chemist. Where she has to go to anyway to take in the prescription

Well Vince, at least she isn't going A and E for the cream!  

[Vince Green]

35 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Well Vince, at least she isn't going A and E for the cream!  

That's true but should over the counter medicines be available on prescription?

[Mice!]

1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said:

While I absolutely agree going on strike is not the right way to get things done, society needs drastic change. Since the crash of 2008, the very wealthy have got far richer, while the average working person has become poorer, even inflation massively benefits the rich as they will move their wealth into assets that will go up as prices rise. Average people are simply not being fairly renumerated for their labour, its getting to the point many would be better off on benefits than working. 

I don't agree, what are the average workers earning? If they went on benefits then surely the standard of living drops.

[12gauge82]

23 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I don't agree, what are the average workers earning? If they went on benefits then surely the standard of living drops.

I don't know, it would depend on sector and area, you tell me? But the rest of my post is factual, during one of the western worlds largest economic crashes, the very wealthy have got a lot richer, while the working masses have got poorer. 

[Yellow Bear]

19 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I don't know, it would depend on sector and area, you tell me? But the rest of my post is factual, during one of the western worlds largest economic crashes, the very wealthy have got a lot richer, while the working masses have got poorer. 

I don't know what field you are in but front '97 to '08 my salary took quit e a massive hit compared to public services but picked up for the last 5 years before I retired in '13.  SWMBA 's salary  who worked in NHS rose rapidly during the period to '11 then levelled off up to '13.

Could the amount of cash the last labour government threw at the public services at the behest of it's paymasters, the unions, have confused the issue of wage levels.

[12gauge82]

8 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

I don't know what field you are in but front '97 to '08 my salary took quit e a massive hit compared to public services but picked up for the last 5 years before I retired in '13.  SWMBA 's salary  who worked in NHS rose rapidly during the period to '11 then levelled off up to '13.

Could the amount of cash the last labour government threw at the public services at the behest of it's paymasters, the unions, have confused the issue of wage levels.

I currently run several businesses. And while I agree there are some huge failures in the public sector, the far bigger issue is the complete inequality between the very rich and everyone else. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, the railway union man reminds me of Red Robbo 🤔 and look what happened to the motor industry 🤔

[Mice!]

10 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

I currently run several businesses. And while I agree there are some huge failures in the public sector, the far bigger issue is the complete inequality between the very rich and everyone else. 

The very rich have always been just that, nothing has changed. 

[12gauge82]

24 minutes ago, Mice! said:

The very rich have always been just that, nothing has changed. 

Agreed

[Scully]

25 minutes ago, Mice! said:

The very rich have always been just that, nothing has changed. 

Since Jesus’ dog was a puppy. 

[7daysinaweek]

On 10/12/2022 at 20:24, Vince Green said:

That's true but should over the counter medicines be available on prescription?

Occasionally I will write an over the counter (OTC) medicines on prescription for such cases when the otc product licence does not allow for it to be purchased otc for certain groups of patients. For example, a child under the age of twelve months may benefit from piriton syrup for treating a allergic urticarial rash, however the product specification licence does not allow it to be dispensed otc for use in infants under the age of twelve months. This would require a prescrition for this.

Patients and parents may find otc medicines helpful at times for treating some minor ailments such as the above which can only be obtained via a prescrition due to the use outside of the product specification at the prescribers discretion. 

I will also occassionally issue a otc medicine prescrition, say for example several children who have scabies in the same household.  Weighing up the probability decision of the parent/s going and paying forty odd quid to treat all the children, thus reducing the risk of a personal financial barrier and the children being treated with a appropriate medicine than the descison of the parent not to buy the treatment otc. If the children are not treated they run a higher risk of complications from the scabies infection. If the parents require treatment I will in most circumstances inform them that they can purchase the preparation over the counter. 

The descision which results in writing an otc prescription is made on a individual basis and thankfully it is not very often. Wherever possible writing a prescition generically which also allows easier access to the medicine and also reduces the overall cost.

As in most cases, OTC medicines are what they are meant for, treating a range of minor self limiting ailments and injuries that the individual can follow the simple self use steps or in addition with simple advice from a pharmacist. On the whole they should not be dispensed on prescrition as they are readily to patients, parents and carers without a prescrition for a smaller cost to the individual. 

On a daily basis I am asked by patients who are both exempt and non exempt from paying prescription charges to write prescriptions for otc medicines. As I have said above in most cases I kindly inform them that the otc medicine that I have suggseted they use for their minor ailment can be readliy obtained buying over the counter without a prescrition. 

Interistingly the second most requested medicine I am asked to write prescritions for is paracetamol, the first being antibiotics.

[Jaymo]

On 10/12/2022 at 20:24, Vince Green said:

That's true but should over the counter medicines be available on prescription?

Simple answer, NOPE