krugerandsmith Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 12 hours ago, thepasty said: I have it every year, never had a problem with it. Same ... Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 14 hours ago, The Heron said: I had this years flu jab a week ago I have never been so ill in all my life all its like proper flu x 2 I will never have this jab EVER AGAIN. And if you hadn't had the jab, and had been ill this week, what would you have blamed it on instead ? I had the flu jab in work (I work in the NHS) on the first day it was being done (19th September), as did all the team I work with. All 8 of us were perfectly fine - apart from one, who was celebrating his 30th birthday the weekend after, and was been decidley ropey on the Monday. But he isn't blaming that on the flu jab ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I shall go and get it done as soon as I can fit it in, I have it every year as I wouldn't want to succumb to the real flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: I have it every year as I wouldn't want to succumb to the real flu. My feeling exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksopener Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, yates said: I was told in meeting with public health England the week before last and they are going to make it compulsory for all care workers(nurses, care staff and doctors etc), who have close contact with vulnerable people to have the flu vac. Staff who refuse will be prevented from attending work as they believe that a significant proportion of the flu deaths from last year could have been prevented if more staff had been inoculated and therefore not spread the infection . This may come into force by as early as next year Practically with the health system on its **** do you ever think that is going to happen? Roll on November i am glad I’m getting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, lksopener said: Practically with the health system on its **** do you ever think that is going to happen? Roll on November i am glad I’m getting out. Yes I think it be forced on all staff. I have never had one in 30 years working in the health industry. Public health really are pushing to make the vaccine compulsory for all staff. Money is always the deciding factor and the cost of the flu epidemic was monumental last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I was ill first year i had the flue jab,times after that light symptoms for a day or so. Might get it this year as i didn't bother last year after reports it was no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I have had the flu jab for several years, I have never had a noticable reaction to it! Fingers crossed I don't this year either! Edited September 30, 2018 by panoma1 Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, panoma1 said: I have had the fue jab for several years, I have never had a noticable reaction to it! Fingers crossed I don't this year either! +1 my company pay for mine and the rest of the lads in the service center so carnt complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 14 hours ago, ordnance said: How do you know you had Aussie flu, sounds more like a cold. It wasn't a cold. Slight fever, dry cough, loss of appetite, a bit low in energy and a few aches that's all. I just kept warm carried on with life. My wife and I never get things badly, the fact that we pay attention to nutrition, health and fitness may just be coincidence of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Westward said: It wasn't a cold. Slight fever, dry cough, loss of appetite, a bit low in energy and a few aches that's all. I just kept warm carried on with life. My wife and I never get things badly, the fact that we pay attention to nutrition, health and fitness may just be coincidence of course. Then it was not the Flu. All they seem to call them these days is a "virus" not a cold . And some of these can last for weeks , i have had my fare share of them , with having M.E. these viruses are getting stronger, and lasting longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I have it done for free every year, never had a problem with it. A mate died of swine flu a few years ago and he wasn’t even 50, he was recovering from leukaemia at the time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 had it for years and never any problem. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 hours ago, yates said: Yes I think it be forced on all staff. I have never had one in 30 years working in the health industry. Public health really are pushing to make the vaccine compulsory for all staff. Money is always the deciding factor and the cost of the flu epidemic was monumental last year I work in a hospital, and they can't force anyone to have an injection into their body that they do not want. Very seriously doubt it will be forced at all. I believe they had a lot of talk about this in 2011, and following taking in-depth legal advice the national health went quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Anyone sticking anything into you, without your permission, is at the very least assault.........as Harvey Weinstein is finding out! 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Anyone sticking anything into you, without your permission, is at the very least assault.........as Harvey Weinstein is finding out! 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I have one every year and don't normally have any ill effects. I had this years last Wednesday, woke up this morning feeling horrible, banging head, runny nose and a temperature. But I reckon a day or to of this is better than getting the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: I work in a hospital, and they can't force anyone to have an injection into their body that they do not want. Very seriously doubt it will be forced at all. I believe they had a lot of talk about this in 2011, and following taking in-depth legal advice the national health went quiet. The implication from the meeting was that staff who declined/refused to be inoculated would not be able to work with vulnerable people in group care settings as the risk of cross infection from staff to residents/patients would be too great a risk. Therefore the only option for people who wanted to work would be to have the injection. If you refused you would not be able to work. I cannot remember the exact terminology as the minutes from the meeting have not yet been circulated but the suggestion it is the care professionals ‘ duty of care’ to be inoculated. It is not something that I personally agree with but all care workers should be aware that this will probably become reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, yates said: The implication from the meeting was that staff who declined/refused to be inoculated would not be able to work with vulnerable people in group care settings as the risk of cross infection from staff to residents/patients would be too great a risk. Therefore the only option for people who wanted to work would be to have the injection. If you refused you would not be able to work. I cannot remember the exact terminology as the minutes from the meeting have not yet been circulated but the suggestion it is the care professionals ‘ duty of care’ to be inoculated. It is not something that I personally agree with but all care workers should be aware that this will probably become reality Like I said, that’s what they said in 2011 before taking legal advice and finding out it’s a non- starter. The vast vast majority of issues comes from poor hygiene processes, eg not cleaning down units, surfaces, trays and not washing hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Like I said, that’s what they said in 2011 before taking legal advice and finding out it’s a non- starter. The vast vast majority of issues comes from poor hygiene processes, eg not cleaning down units, surfaces, trays and not washing hands. From what I observe in hospitals I couldn’t agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Like I said, that’s what they said in 2011 before taking legal advice and finding out it’s a non- starter. The vast vast majority of issues comes from poor hygiene processes, eg not cleaning down units, surfaces, trays and not washing hands. The biggest sources of cross infections of colds, flu, norovirus and other stomach bugs etc are supermarket trolleys, public transport and lift buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Only had 28 days illness in my life since leaving school, NOT going to possibly make myself ill on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dead eye alan said: Only had 28 days illness in my life since leaving school, NOT going to possibly make myself ill on purpose. Part of the reason for that good fortune, and the reason, statistically, that most of us old fogeys on this forum are still alive to post is because we have all been vaccinated against most of the killer diseases that used to wipe us out in years gone by. Before the first world war the average life expectation for a man was 49 years. Flu is still a serious killer today and not just old people. The Spanish Flu epidemic in 1918-19 killed three times as many people worldwide as had been killed in the previous four years of war. Many of the victims were young and otherwise healthy, once contracted it could kill in 48 hours, the lungs just filled up with fluid. I have a flu jab every year and had no side effects what so ever, about 25 years ago I had real flu and I can easily see how it could kill you, anything is better than that. Edited October 1, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Had it a couple weeks ago as well as a pneumonia jab apart from a sore arm and feeling a bit low have been fine,in fact the pneumonia jab was more uncomfortable for about a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 I have it every year and only get a sore arm for a couple of days. I’ve had flu once.....that was enough and before I started getting the flu jab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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