old'un Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Just read Avery’s latest blog titled “A chat on a train” what a load of bull **** this man comes out with, if you reload cartridges your days are numbered… Mark Avery. i sat next to a young man and we got chatting, as you do, about delayed trains, rain and power cuts. He told me he was interested in nature and had reared Kestrels and Barn Owls as a kid. He now kept Harris’s Hawks which he fed on rabbits, some of which he shot. Spontaneously, he told me about how lead is a poison and that it’s very important to use non-toxic ammunition to shoot rabbits for his birds and for his family. He even told me that handling lead pellets is a foolish thing to do because the lead can be absorbed through the skin and as a vapour. He had no idea who I was: why should he? He showed me his BASC membership card and said that he was only a member because of the insurance aspects. I asked whether he knew BASC’s line on lead and he said he didn’t, but he didn’t really care because he had researched it himself. We shook hands as I left at Milton Keynes. Nice young man. We’ll probably never meet again. Edited August 23, 2019 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Odd conversation to strike up on a delayed train! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Cod's Wallop like everything else he writes. Wonder how long it took him to make that lot up? I'm sure we all run around on commuter trains with our BASC cards at the ready. Edited August 23, 2019 by Grandalf Error in text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Sadly he wasn’t sat next to me the conversation would have been a lot different 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Avery on field sports Britain “ I’m a scientist you are not” that’s as maybe ,but I wouldn’t trust u to look after my kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, sam triple said: Avery on field sports Britain “ I’m a scientist you are not” that’s as maybe ,but I wouldn’t trust u to look after my kids This is exactly my worry, if he gets his way the countryside that supports a wide variety of wildlife now will be destroyed, your children will only get to see a curlew if they go to a museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just realised. He has the same surname as that of a famous Weighng Scale manufacturer but obviously didn't receive a free sample just weighing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 The conversation would be a bit like this I sat next to a large man who was eating a pie so to make the time pass I struck up a conversation he told me he was interested in nature 🤭 do you actually own any land maybe 2or 3 thousand acres? Er no well maybe if you did and tried to make a living from it you could have a better idea of the real world have you got any pets or do you keep any animals at-all chicken ducks maybe? Do you hunt /shoot your own food? Growing your own fresh veg and fruits? Er no so you prefer something from a supermarket that you don’t know the origin of ? Er yes he went on to tell me about the expense account lunches he had and the carbon footprint of each of the meals that he freeloads on a regular basis i left at Audley street I doubt that I’ll see him again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Old farrier said: The conversation would be a bit like this I sat next to a large man who was eating a pie so to make the time pass I struck up a conversation he told me he was interested in nature 🤭 do you actually own any land maybe 2or 3 thousand acres? Er no well maybe if you did and tried to make a living from it you could have a better idea of the real world have you got any pets or do you keep any animals at-all chicken ducks maybe? Do you hunt /shoot your own food? Growing your own fresh veg and fruits? Er no so you prefer something from a supermarket that you don’t know the origin of ? Er yes he went on to tell me about the expense account lunches he had and the carbon footprint of each of the meals that he freeloads on a regular basis i left at Audley street I doubt that I’ll see him again Class ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, old'un said: He even told me that handling lead pellets is a foolish thing to do because the lead can be absorbed through the skin and as a vapour. Two utter muppets who'll believe everything they read, without the merest hint of introspection or critical thinking. I wonder how many houses have still have some lead piping in the water supply somewhere, completely unbeknown to the occupier, say buried in the floor between the outside stop tap and the shut-off valve inside? Small off-topic anecdote: At the height of the GL fiasco, I was travelling back from Barrow-in-Furness to Bristol via train (for work). Had to change trains - the name of the station escapes me, but stood next to me on the platform was Adam Henson, of TownieFile fame. I was sorely tempted to ask him to have a word with his producer and ask where the coverage of the GL was? Surely it affected him as a sheep farmer? ...But I was far too British and polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Grandalf said: Cod's Wallop like everything else he writes. Wonder how long it took him to make that lot up? I'm sure we all run around on commuter trains with our BASC cards at the ready. My thoughts exactly....utter carp. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 My feelings are that the more rubbish he spouts, the less people will believe him and stop listening to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 11 hours ago, udderlyoffroad said: Two utter muppets who'll believe everything they read, without the merest hint of introspection or critical thinking. I wonder how many houses have still have some lead piping in the water supply somewhere, completely unbeknown to the occupier, say buried in the floor between the outside stop tap and the shut-off valve inside? Small off-topic anecdote: At the height of the GL fiasco, I was travelling back from Barrow-in-Furness to Bristol via train (for work). Had to change trains - the name of the station escapes me, but stood next to me on the platform was Adam Henson, of TownieFile fame. I was sorely tempted to ask him to have a word with his producer and ask where the coverage of the GL was? Surely it affected him as a sheep farmer? ...But I was far too British and polite. well there we have the problem of everything...............the "people".....have in years gone by been releived of all desision making responsibility....they are becoming totally inept....... and that is how it is engineered............if folk are like that ...they are easy to control........and they really cant see it that happened in the medievil times ....the lords owned you body and soul...but they gave you the church....which kept them quiet...as they knew everything would be fine when they died......... the same is now cept it is football......sport........social media ...mobile phones etc.....so as long as the people are engaged in those activities....then the govt can get on and do what it wants............. yes it is all toungue in cheek...............but not that far from the truth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 It's interesting that in Averys world it's ok to keep captive birds, I presumed he would be anti it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchdickason Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 What a load of tosh. This is just a made up storey, unfortunately Avery has the platform to publish this twaddle. I must remember to take my shotgun certificate and my CA membership with me when I travel by train, find a fat complete stranger and etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 16 hours ago, old'un said: Just read Avery’s latest blog titled “A chat on a train” what a load of bull **** this man comes out with, if you reload cartridges your days are numbered… Mark Avery. i sat next to a young man and we got chatting, as you do, about delayed trains, rain and power cuts. He told me he was interested in nature and had reared Kestrels and Barn Owls as a kid. He now kept Harris’s Hawks which he fed on rabbits, some of which he shot. Spontaneously, he told me about how lead is a poison and that it’s very important to use non-toxic ammunition to shoot rabbits for his birds and for his family. He even told me that handling lead pellets is a foolish thing to do because the lead can be absorbed through the skin and as a vapour. He had no idea who I was: why should he? He showed me his BASC membership card and said that he was only a member because of the insurance aspects. I asked whether he knew BASC’s line on lead and he said he didn’t, but he didn’t really care because he had researched it himself. We shook hands as I left at Milton Keynes. Nice young man. We’ll probably never meet again. Exactly, you then go on to clarify. Why should he indeed; are you someone special? The man seems to make a habit of travelling on trains in order to strike up conversations with complete strangers judging by some of his outporings. Methinks he needs watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 I wonder if he asked if he was a scientist to!? Because they belittle, don't believe, listen to or want to engage with anyone that isn't. . . . Petition has slowed up but looks like they gona make the 100k sigs needed. It at three times more than Avery got last time he tried now. They moaning about how the gov have delayed dealing with it for so long. Hinting at some wrong doing! NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, wymberley said: Exactly, you then go on to clarify. Why should he indeed; are you someone special? The man seems to make a habit of travelling on trains in order to strike up conversations with complete strangers judging by some of his outporings. Methinks he needs watching. I have been saying that about him for years Wymberley! No one seem bothered! I hope they are right!!! He's a smiling knife! Got his book Inglorious when it first came out to help find out what they about. It one of the few books i'll never finish! Load of one sided protectionist Bull! NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Maybe there was some magic mushrooms in his pie he had and it was just a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 hours ago, sam triple said: Avery on field sports Britain “ I’m a scientist you are not” that’s as maybe ,but I wouldn’t trust u to look after my kids 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 seein avery likes trains,,,we could set him up in a signal box on settle carlsle line so he could look out across a grouse moor,,,,,and he could be the new "fat controller" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 I would love BASC to email all its members asking if they were the guy on the train and if true what was actually said, over to you David (BASC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 He been chatting to BASC members again! (Are they stalking him)! This time an all nighter with 2 members in a hotel bar. Debating what corvids should come off the GL apparently. NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 The question of lead shot is just another stick to beat us with. For twenty odd years we as a club used to hire a clay layout from a farmer in Cupid Green in Hertfordshire one Sunday a month. The layout was used by other clubs the rest of the time, and during the week so it was booked practically every day. We alone contributed about a ton of lead a year onto his fields and so it would be a very low estimate to say twenty tons a year went down every year for over twenty years. His dairy herd grazed those same fields during that time every day. He used to complain the Milk Marketing Board were always on his case, testing his milk for lead. It was a very strained relationship but in twenty years the MMB never found a trace of lead in the milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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