ditchman Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 i hate to say it but Mr Biden looks like death warmed up..........even Rocket Ron Reagan looked better than that just after he had been shot........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jega said: Give it six month's top's and the his running mate the lady of colour will moved up from vice president and into the big chair, while Grandpa Joe will be safely esconced in his nursing home dribbling soup inbetween nap's . Methinks this was always the master plan anyway . On the nail. Right from the off I have said he is just the Trojan Horse. She would be worse the the American people than if we had Corbyn in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 One of the lads in work has just said North Carolina is flipping?? This has made me look at the votes again. Pennsylvania 49.8/49.1% Wisconsin 49.6/48.9% Arizona 49.5/49% They are all very very close, are those states normally do close in the votes? Other areas are much clearer but less than a percentage point in three states does seem strange. I hope there is a twist 😃😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mice! said: One of the lads in work has just said North Carolina is flipping?? This has made me look at the votes again. Pennsylvania 49.8/49.1% Wisconsin 49.6/48.9% Arizona 49.5/49% They are all very very close, are those states normally do close in the votes? Other areas are much clearer but less than a percentage point in three states does seem strange. I hope there is a twist 😃😃 Seriously? I can't see that. The margin's almost 75k, the gap's 1.3% with 98% counted. That's been reasonably static since election night. Biden's clawed back 0.1% in the last day or so, but it's going red, surely! Those were all battleground states and expected to be both close and have high turn outs. In the last week or two of the campaigns, both teams hammered the Midwest. Arizona's got interesting because of Trump's appeal with some Latino voters, but has still got a lot of dem voters in the cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Jega said: Give it six month's top's and the his running mate the lady of colour will moved up from vice president and into the big chair, while Grandpa Joe will be safely esconced in his nursing home dribbling soup inbetween nap's . Methinks this was always the master plan anyway I have no problem with that. Thats the way the system is supposed to work, you elect the vice president as well. /Markus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 hours ago, oowee said: Just watching the news . I thought Trump was a total embarrassment during his term in office but the last few days have been off the scale. Can you imagine anything like this over here? All as we need now is Trump escorted from office Yes, Brexit. Remainers carried on in much the same way, now they're at the front of the queue to slate Donny **** Pants for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 I don’t believe that’s true. Whilst remainers complained and moaned at length about the result I do not recall a national campaign to say the vote was fraudulent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: I don’t believe that’s true. Whilst remainers complained and moaned at length about the result I do not recall a national campaign to say the vote was fraudulent. I do! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_unlawful_campaigning_in_the_2016_EU_referendum https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/17/vote-leave-broke-electoral-law-and-british-democracy-is-shaken Gina Miller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Big difference between breaking laws on campaign rules vs. rigging a ballot / fraudulent votes. Just now, WalkedUp said: I don’t believe that’s true. Whilst remainers complained and moaned at length about the result I do not recall a national campaign to say the vote was fraudulent. Exactly. Indications are that the losing side in this election will follow suit. I'd suggest more was at stake with Brexit but that probably depends on perspective. Personally I find suggestions that the US will become a third world nation under Biden ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: Yes, Brexit. Remainers carried on in much the same way, now they're at the front of the queue to slate Donny **** Pants for it! Absolutely spot on that. They cried and lied, while accusing the leave side basing their entire election campain on lies,the hypocrisy of it was unbelievable and they still haven't given up despite 3 elections since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 If Biden had won fair and square, Trump would have no traction, the problem is that due to the irregularities from software 'mistakes', ballot tampering through date and witness fraud, counts being 100% for Biden with no votes at all for Trump, multiple votes from same person and dead people voting etc etc no one can be 100% certain who won and whilst this an ongoing repeating failure of the American voting system, it allows the candidates to ask the courts to rule on evidence presented before confirmation of the winner. All the "Trump must concede" mutterings are from those who support Biden, trying to cover over any fraudulant activities and prevent the dirty linen being washed in public. Legally (and that is what counts) Trump is acting within the law and his rights to do what he is doing, the Supreme Court will decide on any rights or wrongs. 17 hours ago, amateur said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 This is interesting and can be viewed in two ways, 1 he's quit in disgust. 2 he's afraid of what the investigation will uncover. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54882647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, WalkedUp said: I don’t believe that’s true. Whilst remainers complained and moaned at length about the result I do not recall a national campaign to say the vote was fraudulent. But unless I’m mistaken, there was a nationwide campaign to get the result overturned, involving politicians, big business and factions of society in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 This apparantly is part of Trumps modus operandi. Claiming corruption, bribes, false accounting etc to smear business rivals and renege on contracts long before he ever went into politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 As of this mornign JB sits on 259 vs DJT on 214. No clear mandate to call himself 'President-Elect', yet. However, the media for some strange reason appears to have crowned him already; that's not how the constitution works. Why is Biden and the Democratic party flat-out refusing to allow the results and ballots to be independently verified? It would clear this mess up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 can Trump "pardon" himself ? Tony Blare more or less did so.. before he left office...deleting / shedding his paper trail before he left ....which was his right to do so !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, WalkedUp said: I don’t believe that’s true. Whilst remainers complained and moaned at length about the result I do not recall a national campaign to say the vote was fraudulent. Really ? Russia ? Cambridge Analytica ? Peoples vote ? 'You didnt know/understand what you were voting for' ? 'You will be dead soon, so its unfair' 'Only the 'old' voted for Brexit' Various high court writs to frustrate its implementation ? I think America needs some Brit style remainer logic Thats waaay to close to call , needs a second vote , a PEOPLES VOTE ! Keep Trump in situ for 4 years while they hash it out 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, Scully said: But unless I’m mistaken, there was a nationwide campaign to get the result overturned, involving politicians, big business and factions of society in general. Spot on, Gina Miller took the government to court twice from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: can Trump "pardon" himself ? Tony Blare more or less did so.. before he left office...deleting / shedding his paper trail before he left ....which was his right to do so !!! Usually done when a Vice President becomes President because of a problem and the new President can pardon the old President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Really ? Russia ? Cambridge Analytica ? Peoples vote ? 'You didnt know/understand what you were voting for' ? 'You will be dead soon, so its unfair' 'Only the 'old' voted for Brexit' Various high court writs to frustrate its implementation ? I think America needs some Brit style remainer logic Thats waaay to close to call , needs a second vote , a PEOPLES VOTE ! Keep Trump in situ for 4 years while they hash it out 😆 Incorrect. Correct results are here. No media bias (note for the hard of thinking, media companies don;t call elections). Note 'grey' states, where the count hasn't finished, including Pennsylvania. The AP just lumped that in for Biden too, fits the narrative, ummm... you can't decide that unless you're living in a banana republic. Edited November 11, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, mick miller said: Incorrect. Correct results are here. Thanks, Im aware the AP one (who have called it) that I showed is not correct, but projected. It was actually part of a meme that didnt get copied over correctly, but just showed the correlation % between Brexit and the US election. It seems 90 % of the media are rubbing their hands with glee that they have finally 'ousted ' the Donald. Oh what beautiful irony it would be if their dreams were shattered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Back to reality. Looks like (if the US version of the phone call is anything to go by) we don't need to care who is president or what their views might be now we have become a free and independent sovereign nation. No doubt our donkey is thoroughly peed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Trump has set an impossible conundrum because what ever happens he won't accept it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) No evidence? Have a watch of this...https://www.pscp.tv/w/1BdGYYjgkgQGX?t=777 There is no way this pattern is credible. None. Unless this is addressed, and answered, Biden's tenure will be more tarnished than a ****. Edited November 11, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Vince Green said: This apparantly is part of Trumps modus operandi. Claiming corruption, bribes, false accounting etc to smear business rivals and renege on contracts long before he ever went into politics. Yep, my understanding too and he clearly set his stall out on this early in his re-election campaign. 6 hours ago, Rewulf said: Really ? Russia ? Cambridge Analytica ? Peoples vote ? 'You didnt know/understand what you were voting for' ? 'You will be dead soon, so its unfair' 'Only the 'old' voted for Brexit' Various high court writs to frustrate its implementation ? I think America needs some Brit style remainer logic Thats waaay to close to call , needs a second vote , a PEOPLES VOTE ! Keep Trump in situ for 4 years while they hash it out 😆 Did anyone really query the actual vote count in Brexit? I don't believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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