Walker570 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 to be announced on Wednesday(tomorow?) It is all now getting very silly and these so called experts and politicians are making themselves the laughing stock. I listened to three women on about allowing children back to school this next week .... no wonder the country is in a mess if these types of people are running it. They have had 12 months now to get things sorted and make arrangements. It was them who told us we may go into a third outbreak but absolutely no effort has been mae to increase the capacity of the NHS cover and I understand the Nightigale units are being taken down. Beyong ridiculous. OH!!! huge increase in infections recorded , my oh my, who would have dreamt that a big increase in testing that there would be more people found with the covid but it is all blown up to suggest it is extreme. The media do not help of course. It is not going away soon and that was apparent back in June so we need to learn to live with it and closing and destroying businesses is not the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Well these lockdown don't seem to be working do they .if they did there wouldn't be any virus now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) What is Tier 5, lock yourselves in and throw away the key? On our local news tonight....Lakeland Mountain Rescue have appealed for people not to travel to the Lakes from other areas after rescuing a woman on Christmas Day.....from a Tier 4 area. 🙂 Edited December 29, 2020 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Well these lockdown don't seem to be working do they .if they did there wouldn't be any virus now . They are not working because too many people are not following the rules. Nobody catches it unless somebody gives it to them. 2 minutes ago, Scully said: On our local news tonight....Lakeland Mountain Rescue have appealed for people not to travel to the Lakes from other areas after rescuing a woman on Christmas Day.....from a Tier 4 area. 🙂 exactly, same in Cornwall. Edited December 29, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 It won't work until idiots like this get hit hard in the pocket https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55474533 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Vince Green said: They are not working because too many people are not following the rules. Nobody catches it unless somebody gives it to them. This ^^^^^^ good post treat everyone like they have it !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: It won't work until idiots like this get hit hard in the pocket https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55474533 Dam right us welsh love a good old get together and a mountain walk during lock down. *** I won't even throw dog in car and nip couple miles up the road to a farm so I let dog have belt around and these idiots just don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Whatever tier we are in , or heading for , I don't think we will be in a lower one anytime soon , these higher tier's will carry on until a large part of the country have had the long awaited jab and that won't be for a while , me and my wife are in the 70s and no sign of a phone call yet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, captainhastings said: Dam right us welsh love a good old get together and a mountain walk during lock down. *** I won't even throw dog in car and nip couple miles up the road to a farm so I let dog have belt around and these idiots just don't care I am with you. I can see snow on the hills but a twenty mile drive for a bit of hill walking just isn’t on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Even the couple from Ponty in that report are stretching the regulations quite a bit. They are supposed to exercise 'locally' Whats Pontypridd to the falls? Must be 25 miles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Going to take two years for anywhere near a total vacinations of the nation. Tell me, what are all the businesses supposed to do for a living in that time if the population is closed down. How does getting in your car and driving 25 -100miles then taking a walk in the open countryside got to do with catching or passing on this flu virus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Woooaaahhh . I'm sorry but tier 5 will have to be postponed for a little while ,at least until I can get my head around what the xxxx tier 4 is all about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangolin Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Ultrastu said: Well these lockdown don't seem to be working do they .if they did there wouldn't be any virus now . True, we had a pretty strict one at the beginning and it didnt do much, even when the vast majority of people followed the rules. I'm not a fan of people blaming the public for not following the rules as this plays into the government's hands of gaslighting the public to make more restrictions easier for them to get through. Other countries in Europe have had tighter policies on masks and restrictions and it hasnt done much. Now you meet more and more people who see it as all as a complete farce, sickened by the government sinking the country into debt, reporting huge positive test results to peddle fear, using the 'protect NHS' card to shut down any questioning of their decisions. People ******* themselves over something that is barely dangerous for the majority of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Scully said: What is Tier 5, lock yourselves in and throw away the key? On our local news tonight....Lakeland Mountain Rescue have appealed for people not to travel to the Lakes from other areas after rescuing a woman on Christmas Day.....from a Tier 4 area. 🙂 We have no effective enforcement, not like the continent where restrictions are actively policed by the police and army - but thats not the british way apparently.... sooner we were a bit harder on enforcement and idiots who break the rules the better. It bemuses that I cant travel to see pals in Kelso from Northumberland but folk can go on holidays to Switzerland...... surely we need to close our borders to other than freight? / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Walker570 said: How does getting in your car and driving 25 -100miles then taking a walk in the open countryside got to do with catching or passing on this flu virus? It’s fine if your trip goes without incident, but if you do require help, and it’s well documented at the moment that lots of walkers are requiring help or having accidents out on the hill, then it does expose a lot of locals to the potential risk of exposure to COVID, or vice versa. There’s also a lot of people heading out into the countryside who wouldn’t normally do so, which is increasing their chances of needing direct help, putting them in direct contact within rescuers etc in situations where it is difficult to have hospital levels of PPE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangolin Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, Walker570 said: OH!!! huge increase in infections recorded , my oh my, who would have dreamt that a big increase in testing that there would be more people found with the covid but it is all blown up to suggest it is extreme. The media do not help of course. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, mel b3 said: Woooaaahhh . I'm sorry but tier 5 will have to be postponed for a little while ,at least until I can get my head around what the xxxx tier 4 is all about . Last week mel we were in tier two , now we missed tier 3 and went straight into tier four from Boxing day , this have more or less said goodbye to the rest of the game shooting season , although that is only a minor problem when you think what some people are going through with there health and livelihoods . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Tier 27a is being planned now. It will be 100% effective and see us covid free in 3 months. It will include closing all ports and all shops so you need to start panic buying at least 1000 toilet rolls and 4 freezers each to tide you over. It is time to get on as nothing has worked so far and it will be years before there are enough vaccines, assuming it does not mutate again. Like the common cold and flu this may just be something we all have to live with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, marsh man said: Last week mel we were in tier two , now we missed tier 3 and went straight into tier four from Boxing day , this have more or less said goodbye to the rest of the game shooting season , although that is only a minor problem when you think what some people are going through with there health and livelihoods . Is it tier 4 areas that will be bumped up into tier 5 , or any area that has an increase in infection rates ?, and , what other restrictions will their be ?. The whole lot is moving too fast for me to keep up with to be honest . I have very little time to sit and watch the news , so most of my information comes from pw😳. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, grahamch said: We have no effective enforcement, not like the continent where restrictions are actively policed by the police and army - but thats not the british way apparently.... sooner we were a bit harder on enforcement and idiots who break the rules the better. It bemuses that I cant travel to see pals in Kelso from Northumberland but folk can go on holidays to Switzerland...... surely we need to close our borders to other than freight? / The thing is though, that lockdowns only appear to work while they’re in practice ( but if they did worked wouldnt we have it beaten by now? ) the moment people are allowed to travel again the virus grows again, but it will do because it’s airborne. We can’t keep people and businesses furloughed and locked down until this thing is beaten; it just isn’t practical let alone the fact it doesn’t seem to be working. A friend in Spain who was over just before Christmas, was allowed out for about two hours in every 24 hour period when this was at its peak, and heavily policed, but Spain is now about where it was back then. People need to work to pay their bills. I don’t have any answers, but then again, does anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, grahamch said: We have no effective enforcement, not like the continent where restrictions are actively policed by the police and army - but thats not the british way apparently.... sooner we were a bit harder on enforcement and idiots who break the rules the better. It bemuses that I cant travel to see pals in Kelso from Northumberland but folk can go on holidays to Switzerland...... surely we need to close our borders to other than freight? / 10 months ago that may well of helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, grahamch said: We have no effective enforcement, not like the continent where restrictions are actively policed by the police and army - but thats not the british way apparently.... sooner we were a bit harder on enforcement and idiots who break the rules the better. It bemuses that I cant travel to see pals in Kelso from Northumberland but folk can go on holidays to Switzerland...... surely we need to close our borders to other than freight? / But European rates are just as high so even with the supposed stricter enforcement that you refer to its proof that lockdowns don’t work. Foreign travel is banned if travelling from a tier 4 area. So I assume the people who travelled to Switzerland did so ‘illegally’ and in the same way you can break the law to visit your friends in Northumberland. I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: They are not working because too many people are not following the rules. Nobody catches it unless somebody gives it to them. Lockdowns don't work. The sort of lockdown you are advocating seems to be to isolate yourself from life. You can feel free to do so, but don't expect others to follow. 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: treat everyone like they have it !!!!! What a thoroughly depressing way to live your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, treetree said: Lockdowns don't work. The sort of lockdown you are advocating seems to be to isolate yourself from life. You can feel free to do so, but don't expect others to follow. What a thoroughly depressing way to live your life. I think he’s right tho . Just keep your distance from anyone and let’s hope it passes over. my cousin turned up a few months ago and I told my boy to give her space . She now has it . my uncle has just came off oxygen thanks to it and my paramedic friend is really ill with it . ive seen all of these people over the last 3-4 months . Yes I know they only have it now but the point is no one knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 gun shop today had a no mask no entry policy had to dash back to the car for one just to hand over several grand quite nice they put safety above the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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