blankfirer Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 I don't know if you lot know Mr Burnham has brought a clean air charge 10a day for any commercial vehicle older than 2016 private use or not that's a lot of pickups around grtr man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Whats 10a, if you mean £10 he is just jumping on the Khan Woke bandwagon. Not sure why we need any mayors or devolved Parliaments, they are all a total and utter waste of money adding needless bureaucracy and Political point scoring at the Taxpayers expense. Edited January 1, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Going to be happening in alot of Cities, Bristol has been saying about one for ages and I'm sure it's to come in later this quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Not sure why we need any mayors or devolved Parliaments, they are all a total and utter waste of money adding needless bureaucracy and Political point scoring at the Taxpayers expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Going to be happening in alot of Cities, Bristol has been saying about one for ages and I'm sure it's to come in later this quarter. now you know why the council has been turning all the short cuts into cul de sacs had to congest the town so they could start charging i mean scamming us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, clangerman said: now you know why the council has been turning all the short cuts into cul de sacs had to congest the town so they could start charging i mean scamming us Nah, they have just made a few major roads busses and taxis only. That's how Bristol work... They want to close roads to make them pedestrian only yet there are very few other routes to where these roads go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Hello, Oxford will be doing this , already closing roads like the above post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Vehicle checker. I knew mine was OK anyway...as all Euro 2 rated private cars....as I had to have a French Crit Air sticker for it when I worked in France even though it was registered in the Uk and standard RHD. https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 What will the money be used for? Cleaner air - do me a favour. The lightweight Burnham couldn't wait to increase revenue, without a care as to the cost to the average person. In five, ten years time, the air will be just the same, but you won't get a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Gordon R said: What will the money be used for? Cleaner air - do me a favour. The lightweight Burnham couldn't wait to increase revenue, without a care as to the cost to the average person. In five, ten years time, the air will be just the same, but you won't get a refund. Exactly this, just like every other clean air tax by every other council in the country. It’s all about revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookandrabbit Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gordon R said: What will the money be used for? Cleaner air - do me a favour. 18 hours ago, clangerman said: scamming us 19 hours ago, blankfirer said: Mr Burnham has brought a clean air charge Great if we lived on a planet that did not spin had little or no gravitational force to cause pressure and winds…………… Do they not realise that the wind might blow unclean air into their pure air environment? REALLY did we not suffer acid rain from North American industrial processes? Did the Scandinavians suffer from ours? nice try maybe these politicians should ask the major polluters and see we reply they get! Not saying something needs to be done but if they think they are helping disabled people to breath more easily, have they not considered where they can park as public transport is not always suitable or close enough for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 If we boycott the cities which charge with any luck they will become ghost towns. See how they like that. I’m already doing my bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookandrabbit Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, London Best said: If we boycott the cities which charge with any luck they will become ghost towns Yes another nail in the coffin of city centre shops creating more unemployment unless new shopping centres are built on green belt land ……..but that would mean no more shooting perms! As the people who went to the city centres are now going to out of town to the generic shops and they want to see fluffy furry animals running wild in the car parks feeding on the remains of their fast food generic store bought lunch or dinner EXCELLENT EXCELLENT no more shooting permissions no more guns!!! goodbye to a way of live and the end to ALL PROBLEMS. I bet this is some psychologists plan from some nudge department. I certainly do not wish to criticise London Best as we are all shooters who enjoy our sport in our individual ways. New Years Eve showed that people are willing to travel long distances from where pubs and clubs are closed , as in Scotland to England where they remained open. So charging in a city will make people go elsewhere causing more pollution and congestion. I do not have any answers but whatever is done there is always people loosing out. I feel very sorry for these people: https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/16796893/couple-furious-forced-pay-driveway-londons-emission-zone/ there will always be people who loose out and yes it is another stealth tax which motorists have to pay because we know whilst industrial countries around the world continually pump out pollution we are nailing jelly to the wall. When the wind blows? Is it hot cold wet or dry or does it contain particulates and acid rain but it still blows. just climbing down from this soap box !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Burnhim, There's a pillock who likes nothing more than the sound of his own voice, or pic in the paper, a millionaire plastic scouser in charge of Manchester. Proves Labour supporters will vote for anything that wears a red rosette. s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 My OH's cousin runs a coach firm based in Middlesex. Transport firms whose vehicles have to go in to the city are currently circumventing the system using the "number plate game" as it is described to me. Every month they re-register their vehicles with a different number plate, at a cost of just over £100, which apparently means the DVLA system doesn't catch up with them. The fine for entering the ULEZ with a non-compliant vehicle is almost as much as the cost of changing number plates so they are dodging a lot of bullets for the cost of the re-registering, considering they may travel in to the city multiple times a week. DVLA are obviously going to get wind of it and close the loophole soon but at the moment it's saving a lot of transport firms from going bust having to invest in compliant vehicles. The mad thing is the emissions laws don't apply to marine craft... think of all the diesel fumes being splurged out on the Thames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 hours ago, London Best said: If we boycott the cities which charge with any luck they will become ghost towns. See how they like that. I’m already doing my bit. That unfortunately won’t work in Greater Manchester as it covers every borough in Greater Manchester which is 493 sq miles. As soon as as I walk out of my door and I live in village I have to pay unless I buy a euro 6 compliant vehicle. We even voted against having a mayor and a congestion charge but apparently democracy only works when it gives the answer they want in greater Manchester as I now have a mayor and congestion charge by another name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Timps: move house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 14 hours ago, London Best said: If we boycott the cities which charge with any luck they will become ghost towns. See how they like that. I’m already doing my bit. Same here....simples...just don't go and shop there, visit there etc etc. In the 60s a day out was a run down the M1 into London visit a few places , do a bit fo shopping and then do a show at a theatre before driving home. They turned the place into a ####hole and I wouldn't go there if you paid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingdragon Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Check your vehicle on this site and it will tell you where you have to pay https://vehiclecheck.drive-clean-air-zone.service.gov.uk/vehicle_checkers/enter_details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Quote Timps: move house. Living where he does, he would not want to move. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny tim Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 02/01/2022 at 18:07, London Best said: If we boycott the cities which charge with any luck they will become ghost towns. See how they like that. I’m already doing my bit. The problem is the Manchester zone covers 500 sq miles and I live in it. The Toyota hiace van I have had for 15 yrs will soon cost me £300 a month for the pleasure of leaving my drive ..it’s madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 I don’t get time to drive into town centres, I am to busy clearing the DPF filter on my pick up down the motorway, why do we put up with all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, tiny tim said: The problem is the Manchester zone covers 500 sq miles and I live in it. The Toyota hiace van I have had for 15 yrs will soon cost me £300 a month for the pleasure of leaving my drive ..it’s madness It's all a scheme IMHO to price the poor off the roads so that the wealthy can tootle along in their new limousines and etc.. Oh...and footballers in their sports SUV vehicles. And everyone else can take the bus. And Burnham likes to thinks he's a socialist? Yeah! He's merely an enabler for the wealthy to enjoy sole access to the roads that we all have actually paid for but now can't afford to drive on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 hours ago, tiny tim said: The problem is the Manchester zone covers 500 sq miles and I live in it. The Toyota hiace van I have had for 15 yrs will soon cost me £300 a month for the pleasure of leaving my drive ..it’s madness I feel for you. Sadly this is what happens when the population is duped into voting to install another layer of bureaucracy under the guise of democracy? Just gives another opportunity to be fleeced? Simples! and the majority trying hard not to work aren't affected and those involved get richer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, old man said: I feel for you. Sadly this is what happens when the population is duped into voting to install another layer of bureaucracy under the guise of democracy? Just gives another opportunity to be fleeced? Simples! and the majority trying hard not to work aren't affected and those involved get richer? Amen to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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