rbrowning2 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gordon R said: A lot of people will die before the inevitable happens. Russia will win this battle. Ukraine needs to accept the inevitability and deal with it. But who are we to tell somebody they do not have the right to die defending their country? Would we have given in to hitler without a fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Gordon R said: A lot of people will die before the inevitable happens. Russia will win this battle. Ukraine needs to accept the inevitability and deal with it. Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Biden isn’t boycotting oil now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bostonmick Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Rewulf said: The two comments conflict with logic. WW3 , and particularly a nuclear WW3, ARE defeat for Russia. Its like shooting yourself in the head, hoping it kills your enemy when it comes out the other So you are saying putin applies logic to all of his decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Hello, Putin's not go to stop the Ukrainian invasion until he's murdered every fighting citizen and broke the hearts of Ukrainian freedom, 23 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Putin's not go to stop the Ukrainian invasion until he's murdered every fighting citizen and broke the hearts of Ukrainian people Edited February 27, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Putin's not go to stop the Ukrainian invasion until he's murdered every fighting citizen and broke the hearts of Ukrainian freedom, Hello, this war could well have been avoided if all countries barring those like China had stood up to Putin's regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, this war could well have been avoided if all countries barring those like China had stood up to Putin's regime Brilliant hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, bostonmick said: So you are saying putin applies logic to all of his decisions. I'd say there's more chance of that being the truth than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Logic. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10553185/amp/ANDREW-NEIL-West-impotent-long.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Like anyone in power for a long time the vision of reality becomes impaired. Putin is no different. Breaking news. France stops and takes into port Russian ship breaking sanctions. Nice to see that France is able to intercept ships in the channel when it wants to. Edited February 26, 2022 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, oowee said: Like anyone in power for a long time the vision of reality becomes impaired. Putin is no different. Breaking news. France stops and takes into port Russian ship breaking sanctions. Nice to see that France is able to intercept ships in the channel when it wants to. It's small boats they don't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 worth a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-yJD_fAtk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, bluesj said: worth a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-yJD_fAtk Interesting, but misses out the major influx of the Volksdeutsche, also during Catherine the Great's time, which explains, to an extent, why so many Ukrainians served in the Wehrmacht and SS during WW2 and Russian suspicion of the Ukrainians. History is seldom simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Ukrainian stops to offer broke down tank crew a tow in the most epic troll in history. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdSQQEjs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I suspect the best chance of sorting this out is through the Russian people. In the modern age, folks will more easily be able to get the real picture of what’s going on, and many Russians have enjoyed the taste of a bit of the West .. football, McDonalds, Olympics etc Knowing they are being ostracised for a cause many don’t support isn’t going to be popular. Along with the middle classes and not wanting the war at all … this could build pressure and force something … not sure what as he’s past the point of no return, but hopefully something. Unfortunately this point may well come after Ukraine has succumbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: I suspect the best chance of sorting this out is through the Russian people. In the modern age, folks will more easily be able to get the real picture of what’s going on, and many Russians have enjoyed the taste of a bit of the West .. football, McDonalds, Olympics etc Knowing they are being ostracised for a cause many don’t support isn’t going to be popular. Along with the middle classes and not wanting the war at all … this could build pressure and force something … not sure what as he’s past the point of no return, but hopefully something. Unfortunately this point may well come after Ukraine has succumbed. I have Russian friends and while they don’t necessarily support Putin they do long for a place of respect in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 11 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: I have Russian friends and while they don’t necessarily support Putin they do long for a place of respect in the world. Hello, cannot ever see that happening , if that's the case why was he voted in power , despite the fraudulent votes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 13 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Ukrainian stops to offer broke down tank crew a tow in the most epic troll in history. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdSQQEjs/ Now that is funny 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, cannot ever see that happening , if that's the case why was he voted in power , despite the fraudulent votes, I don’t think anyone every runs against Putin do they? I know the last guy who ran against Putin was poisoned, almost died. Then given a 100years prison sentence for fake charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy18 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 26/02/2022 at 07:39, Rim Fire said: Just now, kingsy18 said: Made my day😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: I don’t think anyone every runs against Putin do they? I know the last guy who ran against Putin was poisoned, almost died. Then given a 100years prison sentence for fake charges. Hello, it makes you think how ordinary Russian citizens have no choice of President when this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 25/02/2022 at 22:49, Gordon R said: A lot of people will die before the inevitable happens. Russia will win this battle. Ukraine needs to accept the inevitability and deal with it. Would you surrender if somebody invaded your home ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) At least we now know what the Z means on his vehicles, Zapped. The Javelins are doing a great job. Edited February 27, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: At least we now know what the Z means on his vehicles, Zapped. The Javelins are doing a great job. Honestly I think Putin is following the old Soviet doctrine of probing for weakness. He will hold his main forces back for days while launching small attacks. The small attacks will find the ambushes and weak points. Then he will send in his main battle groups. The troops he is sending in now are expendable poorly trained conscripts. In a day or two you will here about the full attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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