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2 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said:

Nope.

Most employment contracts include a clause whereby if they don’t like what you say on social medja (sic), you’re out the door. 
 

Linekar is way out of line on this one, and lower-ranking BBC employees have been fired for far less.

Ultimately, all he’s doing is adding to the slow, public demise of the BBC, whilst laughing all the way to the bank.

Freedom of speech/cancel culture are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

consider him nothing short of a weasel but he’s still entitled to tweet on his own account an opinion can’t be irrelevant if your entitled to have the same freedom he’s not allowed 

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It isn't anything to do with his right to speak, it's about his employment. For example, if you were in the Police, you couldn't publicly advocate the abolition of the Police. Linker's public view is at odds with his employers standards. The BBC pays his wage and have specific rules regarding what you can or can't say. Others have been fired for less and he has already been warned. 

He just thinks he is so important that he can ignore the rules. Speak as freely as he wants, but he should resign or get the sack. 

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1 minute ago, clangerman said:

consider him nothing short of a weasel but he’s still entitled to tweet on his own account an opinion can’t be irrelevant if your entitled to have the same freedom he’s not allowed 

The problem there is you are comparing him to the ordinary man on the street, keep in mind he is paid out of licence payers money, and the fact that he has a large audience on social media, its not quite the same as Joe Bloggs opinion who has 40 followers on Twitter.
The BBC is state funded  and is supposed to be impartial, if anyone believes the impartial bit , they they are likely brain dead and living in some kind of left wokey dream world , where the middle ground is somewhere between socialism and hard core communism.
If their highest paid presenter , a man who talks about football for £1.3 million a year, cant stop running his mouth off at every opportunity to prove how woke and PC he is, then he should be sacked , and I reckon he will be.

If the BBC want to prove how great they are, how inclusive and diverse , why not let them embrace the socialist principles that seem to run through the ranks ?
Put everyone across the board on £`15 an hour, no exceptions , let them see what its like to be 'one of the people' who have to listen to their drivel, and need a licence for the privilege.

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1 hour ago, arjimlad said:

Lineker did voice concerns about Qatar.

He's not spouting off about government whilst commenting on football on the BBC, but making comments on his personal twitter account which does not mention the BBC in the description or title. 

People can read his personal twitter account or not, as they wish. 

It seems to me that the people saying "Fire Gary Lineker for expressing his views condemning the illegal migration bill"  are the same ones who would say "Stop this woke cancel culture. Defend our freedom of speech."

Lineker's freedom of speech is under attack. He's as entitled to express his views about the government as anyone else.

 

 

Your right, they probably are, but it's because of the hypocrisy of it. 

Either allow free speech both ways or sack everyone equally. 

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9 minutes ago, Flashman said:

He’s not sacked. This is a temporary suspension. 

I quote from the BBC's news pages  "has decided that he will step back from presenting Match of the Day until we've got an agreed and clear position on his use of social media".

My reading of that is "until you agree to follow the BBC's rules"  The rules are clarified here;

The BBC said it considered Lineker's "recent social media activity to be a breach of our guidelines".

It added he should "keep well away from taking sides on party political issues or political controversies".

Quotes from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64920557

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24 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I quote from the BBC's news pages  "has decided that he will step back from presenting Match of the Day until we've got an agreed and clear position on his use of social media".

My reading of that is "until you agree to follow the BBC's rules"  The rules are clarified here;

The BBC said it considered Lineker's "recent social media activity to be a breach of our guidelines".

It added he should "keep well away from taking sides on party political issues or political controversies".

Quotes from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64920557

If he has any credibility and belief in what he says and his freedom to say it, he'll not return.

An interesting view, is that as a 60 odd year old white man, he went woke to stay at the BBC. If so, a cynical ploy to keep the money. He'll be back in August.

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7 minutes ago, Penelope said:

If he has any credibility and belief in what he says and his freedom to say it, he'll not return.

An interesting view, is that as a 60 odd year old white man, he went woke to stay at the BBC. If so, a cynical ploy to keep the money. He'll be back in August.

I know very little about him (not being a follower of football - I have probable seen more of him in Walkers crisp adverts than football programmes!) - but I understand he has a 'worth' of £26M.  If so, he has the luxury of not needing a salary and can follow his political principles and continue to dabble in politics - or he can keep his views to himself and collect his £1.36M BBC pay packet.  I'm sure he has plenty of other 'pay packets' such as Walkers Crisps.  Maybe other broadcasters who don't have a charter requiring impartiality will make him an offer?

His choice.

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2 hours ago, Flashman said:

He’s not sacked. This is a temporary suspension. 

The language is 'suspension' to save him from embarrassment, and to avoid legal issues. 

The reality is, get yourself off! In a time when criticism of the BBC is at an all time high, they don't need a loose cannon, firing his wokey nonsense  off whenever he wants to feel good about himself. 

He's gone, and the other two can go too, and the BBC regains some credibility, plus saving 2 million quid. 

3 minutes ago, Good shot? said:

Lineker read out a statement written by the BBC as I understand it.

Hypocrites. 

Pair of them bleating about injustice and racism when behind their ivory towers, get over there, take the wads of cash and say nothing. 

Principles don't survive when there's heaps of money being thrown around. 

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6 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

The language is 'suspension' to save him from embarrassment, and to avoid legal issues. 

The reality is, get yourself off! In a time when criticism of the BBC is at an all time high, they don't need a loose cannon, firing his wokey nonsense  off whenever he wants to feel good about himself. 

He's gone, and the other two can go too, and the BBC regains some credibility, plus saving 2 million quid. 

Hypocrites. 

Pair of them bleating about injustice and racism when behind their ivory towers, get over there, take the wads of cash and say nothing. 

Principles don't survive when there's heaps of money being thrown around. 

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