Penelope Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Rewulf said: What has it got to do with her ? What does it have to do with 'them' ? Ill ask you this , does this committee start sending letters out every time theres an allegation of sexual assault involving a celebrity? Every time a footballer is alleged to have raped or molested a young girl in a hotel room somewhere, do these letters go out asking their football clubs to 'confirm their stance' that they wont be getting their wages that month ?? Im not defending 'him' I dont particularly like him. But whats being done to him is wrong on so many levels. Its a modern day witch hunt, with the accused being burnt at the stake on the allegation of anonymous actors , who may not be acting on moral or truthful grounds. When hes arrested and charged Ill shut up Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Quote Every time a footballer is alleged to have raped or molested a young girl in a hotel room somewhere, do these letters go out asking their football clubs to 'confirm their stance' that they wont be getting their wages that month ?? A valid point. Members of the public who don't like him, can boycott his shows and You Tube. The bigger problem is that it isn't enough for them, they want others to share their view and seem intolerant of those who might have concerns. I have no time for Brand and at best, he is a truly sad, nasty individual, but this is going well beyond a media witch hunt. If he has committed a crime - settle it via the court system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, discobob said: Hands up who thinks Rumble will be blocked in the UK under the "Online Safety Bill" that has just been brought in to quash any free speech?? ✋ 🤚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 14 hours ago, clangerman said: they waited until we had a system which allows women to make false sexual allegations while hiding then when found to be liars allows them to walk away scot free! More probably it’s attitudes like this which have prevented them coming forward because they will not be believed nor respected as victims of sexual assault or rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: A valid point. Members of the public who don't like him, can boycott his shows and You Tube. The bigger problem is that it isn't enough for them, they want others to share their view and seem intolerant of those who might have concerns. I have no time for Brand and at best, he is a truly sad, nasty individual, but this is going well beyond a media witch hunt. If he has committed a crime - settle it via the court system. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, discobob said: Hands up who thinks Rumble will be blocked in the UK under the "Online Safety Bill" that has just been brought in to quash any free speech?? ✋ If you're in the business of running a VPN, the UK is about to become a very profitable market for you. 20 minutes ago, Scully said: This. Plus one. Thing is, I think they might've 'jumped the shark' somewhat by being so blatant. The chair of a parliamentary committee, a committee whose job it is to hold a government department to account, openly wanting people demonetised for mere allegations looks really bad. Committee chairs being less than impartial and openly pursuing an agenda is nothing new, see Harriet Harperson and Boris' cake. (Boris cake = The worst thing eva, Starmer Curry and beers = meh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Bobba said: More probably it’s attitudes like this which have prevented them coming forward because they will not be believed nor respected as victims of sexual assault or rape. It doesnt help when they report it , not to the police , but to the media , 15 years later. Operation Yew tree not only investigated , but convicted men , on the testimony of women who didnt report attacks for 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: VPN, the UK is about to become a very profitable market for you. Hence why Mr Tousi is advertising them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Bobba said: More probably it’s attitudes like this which have prevented them coming forward because they will not be believed nor respected as victims of sexual assault or rape. and what’s wrong with expecting women who make false allegations to face the same justice as those they accuse? the truth requires no over coat brands not hiding showing signs of body tells or hesitation stand on it there will be no arrest or trial for the fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 I can't stand the man and never have. That said, I'm uncomfortable with the trail by media, even the government has got involved. He is currently innocent and should be treated as such until otherwise proven in a court of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 I think the BBC has a lot of nerve considering they harboured Jimmy saville for years..we won't mention the princess Diana interview and how they have told untruths in the past....the media have wrecked people's lives with their witch hunts..it ain't right...innocent until proven guilty under proper processs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 Regardless of if you like him or not and I never have will he be able to get a fair trial concidering how the media has gone on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, B725 said: Regardless of if you like him or not and I never have will he be able to get a fair trial concidering how the media has gone on? Maybe that is the point by design. Ruin him publicly in the media (without a shread of proof), thus insuring it never goes to court. Silencing him because his agenda doesn't align with theirs. Why else go to the media and not the police. I should add I cannot stand the bloke at all. Of course this is merely speculation from a sceptic, of things like this, when the accuser chooses the media route ,over police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Ruin him publicly in the media (without a shread of proof), thus insuring it never goes to court. Silencing him because his agenda doesn't align with theirs. The media attention and mass publicity certainly does ensure the impossibility of a fair trial. That leaves an unfair trial, or no trial at all. His agenda , whatever it is , has obviously hit multiple nerves, whether he will ever get back to doing this is debateable. But free speech has certainly been dealt a blow here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, tweedledee said: I think the BBC has a lot of nerve considering they harboured Jimmy saville for years..we won't mention the princess Diana interview and how they have told untruths in the past....the media have wrecked people's lives with their witch hunts..it ain't right...innocent until proven guilty under proper processs That has been the general push for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: Maybe that is the point by design. Ruin him publicly in the media (without a shread of proof), thus insuring it never goes to court. Silencing him because his agenda doesn't align with theirs. Why else go to the media and not the police. I should add I cannot stand the bloke at all. Of course this is merely speculation from a sceptic, of things like this, when the accuser chooses the media route ,over police. It couldn't happen to nicer person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, amateur said: It couldn't happen to nicer person. Ok, and what about when it happens to someone that you do like? An injustice is an injustice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, amateur said: It couldn't happen to nicer person. I very nearly posted that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Genghis said: Ok, and what about when it happens to someone that you do like? An injustice is an injustice. Exactly. Sadly it seems there are a high percentage of people who if you aren’t on their friends list or agree with them in every aspect of life then you don’t deserve anything except guilt and persecution whether guilty or innocent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 sadly if you are in the industry of luvies....darlings....Z list ..............they should all be aware "you stick your head above the parapit ...and you will be shot at" arrogant ***** the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) I haven't read all replies so If I repeat anything previously said, excuse me but I don't get much free time. I'm disappointed by the number of people effectively stating "well, I don't like him, and he seems a bit unsavoury so he must be guilty" What has happened to innocent until proven otherwise? If we are all saying that deplatforming and vilifying a man, to the extent that for some reason Parliament has to poke their noses in (it's nothing to do with them), on the say so of allegations years old where victims identities are protected, then we are not just heading to a dark place, we are already there. A little while back David Icke was due to attend a rally in the Netherlands (this sounds like a crazy tangent but it is relevant), and he, like Brand was already unpopular with the authorities to say the least for getting a bit too close to the truth on a number of current matters; so he was banned from entering not just Holland but the whole of the EU. Icke has no criminal record, nor was there any acceptable reason for banning him, so he was labelled an anti semite- because that now seems to be one of the default allegations if they can't find anything on you. The media have destroyed Brand, and would do the same to Icke, only thats more difficult because other than saying he's a conspiracy theorist they can't fabricate anything as yet. This is not just about Brand, it is as discbob says the end of free speech - that is coming faster than most of us think Edited September 24, 2023 by Acerforestry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 08:49, Acerforestry said: This is not just about Brand, it is as discbob says the end of free speech - that is coming faster than most of us think Yep Online Safety Bill being what the will take it with.... Energy Bill - what they will take your property with.... CBDC - What they will control you with... ESG's - how they get companies to go along with them Climate Emergency - to catch everything else..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, discobob said: Yep Online Safety Bill being what the will take it with.... Energy Bill - what they will take your property with.... CBDC - What they will control you with... ESG's - how they get companies to go along with them Climate Emergency - to catch everything else..... Looking very much like that if you join the dots up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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