TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Dr. Jordan Peterson: Britain will be 'Venezuela for 20 years' if Starmer wins the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 hello, any Link TC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Dr. Jordan Peterson: Britain will be 'Venezuela for 20 years' if Starmer wins the next election. I follow him quite a bit on youtube a very well spoken and interesting person to listen to. He becomes. Very passionate about things he strongly believes in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, johnphilip said: I follow him quite a bit on youtube a very well spoken and interesting person to listen to. He becomes. Very passionate about things he strongly believes in . Including the supernatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Dr. Jordan Peterson: Britain will be 'Venezuela for 20 years' if Starmer wins the next election. A bit of context would be good? I don't really see much difference between the cons and labour these days, especially on issues like overpopulation and immigration, high taxation, the NHS, and looney green policys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I don't really see much difference between the cons and labour these days The steepness of the downward trend??? Labour will be a cliff edge, whereas Conservatives is a slope you could chase cheese down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's in the Telegraph behind a paywall - I read it the other day, on one of the handful of free views you are allowed each month. From memory, there wasn't much to illuminate the statement, but I was hungover - I think it just serves the purpose of that particular paper, which is to try and terrify pepole into line in a fairly Blimpish way. Before everyone jumps on, I'm not a huge fan of the Labour Party, and I certiantly don't appreciate their view's on 'the right to roam', private schools or country sports - but really? Venezuela? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/12/17/jordan-peterson-britain-venezuela-for-20-years-labour-wins/#:~:text=Britain will be “Venezuela for,would be a “catastrophe”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Full article here….https://archive.is/O69f0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 I think we need a complete revamp of how do things, the whole system is rotten to the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, old'un said: Full article here….https://archive.is/O69f0 He is right in what he is saying. The Labour Party is broken ( and so the tories) Starmer could at one point. Not Identify what a woman was , this gender issue brought. The downfall of the SNP leader. Think I read somewhere in the UK a teacher is in prison. Because he would. Not agree. To a pupil who was been mis gendered. Our country is been invaded by all these boat people arriving and all folks can do is talk about how. They Identify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, discobob said: The steepness of the downward trend??? Labour will be a cliff edge, whereas Conservatives is a slope you could chase cheese down That is an excellent analogy. Though, on thinking about it....I will say that the previous New Labour administration was death hired armies of civil servants and resulted in avalanches of legislation. Subsequent governments have barely slowed that down. The public sector is now so bloated and full of openly-Labour supporters that there's no stopping 'the blob', only diverting its attention and reacting to consultations. When we're inevitably dragged, kicking and screaming, back into the ponzi scheme that is the EU, they'll be so busy trying to work out how legislation they've invented marries up with the EU stuff (that other member states continue to ignore unless convenient) that we might even get break. My that's depressing for a Monday morning. 🤣 Back on topic, JP is becoming a bit of a parody of himself. He's got some good advice for young men going through an educational environment that actively seems to hate them. But beyond that, I find his analysis of politics occasionally spot on, occasionally wildly off. But I suppose he is also the product of his environment, i.e. the 'progressive' hell-scape that is Canadian Politics with that Blair 2.0 creature, ****-eau. 2 hours ago, oowee said: Including the supernatural. I assume you mean his new-found enthusiasm for the 'mythology' in the book of Genesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, discobob said: The steepness of the downward trend??? Labour will be a cliff edge, whereas Conservatives is a slope you could chase cheese down Agreed, however ultimately it's not far off the same destination, which is why I'll vote for neither of them. The fact the Cons think they can oust BJ and Liz Truss and reinstall David Cameron should tell us all the contempt they hold those who voted for Brexit, it's almost like they had a plan all along 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, chesterse said: I think we need a complete revamp of how do things, the whole system is rotten to the core. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Jega said: +1 If only it was possible to get one? we can't? they have ensured we can't? A too lucrative and cozy living, with snouts sunk in the trough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 hours ago, johnphilip said: Starmer could at one point. Not Identify what a woman was He still can't, he is just saying what he thinks will help him get votes. People are too stupid to see through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: He still can't, he is just saying what he thinks will help him get votes. People are too stupid to see through it. People are too fickle to see through labour or the cons, they're nearly one and the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 If Starmer wins heaven forbid it will enable BLAIR to go for EU president unelected like the rest of the beurocrats just imgine Blair jetting round the world in BLAIRFORCE ONE and then preaching to us about climate change yuk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, armsid said: If Starmer wins heaven forbid it will enable BLAIR to go for EU president unelected like the rest of the beurocrats just imgine Blair jetting round the world in BLAIRFORCE ONE and then preaching to us about climate change yuk! 🤣 I doubt he would want the drop in salary or influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 And under the Tories it will become what? Also Venezuela. But quicker. In fact in terms of corruption and cronyism the Tories have already made the UK into Venezuela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, enfieldspares said: And under the Tories it will become what? Also Venezuela. But quicker. In fact in terms of corruption and cronyism the Tories have already made the UK into Venezuela. Just watching some of that Mone corruption stuff. I hope a whole life term is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, oowee said: Just watching some of that Mone corruption stuff. I hope a whole life term is possible. caught the jv show on mone only word to describe callers was hatred she’s like the Tories have a rattle snake biting them nonstop! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 hello, she cannot be the only one who has made money from government contracts during the time the UK was hit with Covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, she cannot be the only one who has made money from government contracts during the time the UK was hit with Covid That is the problem there was that many with their snouts in the trough we will never know and there seems to be nobody trying to retrieve any of the losses back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 She is not the only one by far, Hancock had his hand in the till as well, and god knows how many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) What folk seem to have forgotten, is that the world suddenly had this unknown, Chinese-made plague descend upon them, which appeared to kill sufferers in unprecedented numbers and for which there appeared to be no cure, other than isolation. The government took what they perceived to be the most appropriate steps. Throw money at developing a vaccine, throw money at buying up what scarce protective equipment there was (when everyone else in the world was doing the same) and impose quarantine. Yes, had there been more time, more stringent checks on the spend should have been imposed, yes, lowlives like Mone and others benefitted unduly, but, what was the alternative? In the main, the UK populace responded well. PW members made protective equipment for free, as did others Yes, we can all now say that things might have done differently, but I fail to see what a Labour government could have done better. Corruption exists on both sides of the House. Hindsight is wonderful. Edited December 19, 2023 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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