Tougher laws on buying knives online

[steve_b_wales]

There will now be two forms of identification that any online retailer of knives must ask before a sale is agreed. This is all well and good considering that a vast majority of knives used are household/kitchen knives.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Oh come on Steve, this is a classic case of "locking the stable door after the horse has bolted".

 

Knives occasionally kill people in the wrong hands of a tiny minority, but it is far easier to bring in a pointless new set of regulations, than to actually address the BROKEN SOCIETY in this once great country.

[Westley]

As 'Dunblane ' was quoted in interview this morning,  by the ex head of CPS, and how it introduced tougher gun laws, they are going to do the same with knives  ?  How out of touch with reality are these people  ?  All they will do is penalise the GENUINE knife users and sellers. After all banning handguns really worked........didn't it  ?   🙄

[steve_b_wales]

5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Oh come on Steve, this is a classic case of "locking the stable door after the horse has bolted".

 

Knives occasionally kill people in the wrong hands of a tiny minority, but it is far easier to bring in a pointless new set of regulations, than to actually address the BROKEN SOCIETY in this once great country.

Indeed. That's my point.

[Penelope]

12 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Oh come on Steve, this is a classic case of "locking the stable door after the horse has bolted".

 

Knives occasionally kill people in the wrong hands of a tiny minority, but it is far easier to bring in a pointless new set of regulations, than to actually address the BROKEN SOCIETY in this once great country.

Where targetted stop and search would be far more effective.

[johnphilip]

4 minutes ago, Penelope said:

Where targetted stop and search would be far more effective.

Ah but now they would rather. Go after. The. pen (  keyboard) rather. Than the sword.  Proves it has been the case many times just recently. 

[ditchman]

a while ago some MP (i dont remember who).....surgested putting a law thro Parliament that ALL KNIVES should have round blunt points....................i did think that was very funny ...until i realised that the person putting this forward as a solution was an MP elected by the people to run our country........

[Dougy]

So, so frustrating they never target the route course that's far too difficult to actually resolve, and they know its unachievable without loosing face. 

It would be interesting how many involved in knife crime are UK citizens, or putting it slightly differently  are born from a culture as i am and all people i know. 

 

I have in my kitchen draw 3 x 14inch steak knives, 5 x 7 inch boning knifes, 1 machete 6 Mora 1 custom knife plus umpteen dinner and butter knifes and NOT ONE OF THESE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ANYTHING BUT THERE INTENDED PURPOSE. . 

Its not the knifes, its not the guns. its the people with the mindset to use them as weapons, 75% are from this tyrpe of culture. 

Its stating the bloody obvious. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Dougy

[Pushandpull]

According to this morning's paper, the weapon used at Southport was a 20 cm kitchen knife.

[Newbie to this]

10 minutes ago, Pushandpull said:

According to this morning's paper, the weapon used at Southport was a 20 cm kitchen knife.

Yep, maybe we will have to install a cabinet fixed to the structure of the building, to,store our kitchen knjves in...... oh no wait making it harder to buy knives onlne, will stop these scumbags from opening the kitchem drawer.

Just for clarity, the first bit was tongue in cheek.

Edited 12 hours ago by Newbie to this

[old man]

1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said:

There will now be two forms of identification that any online retailer of knives must ask before a sale is agreed. This is all well and good considering that a vast majority of knives used are household/kitchen knives.

Officialdom never misses an opportunity to make some gains through applied difficulties wether the laws are appropriate or not. It's all about more control?

[old man]

36 minutes ago, Dougy said:

So, so frustrating they never target the route course that's far too difficult to actually resolve, and they know its unachievable without loosing face. 

It would be interesting how many involved in knife crime are UK citizens, or putting it slightly differently  are born from a culture as i am and all people i know. 

 

I have in my kitchen draw 3 x 14inch steak knives, 5 x 7 inch boning knifes, 1 machete 6 Mora 1 custom knife plus umpteen dinner and butter knifes and NOT ONE OF THESE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ANYTHING BUT THERE INTENDED PURPOSE. . 

Its not the knifes, its not the guns. its the people with the mindset to use them as weapons, 75% are from this tyrpe of culture. 

Its stating the bloody obvious. 

Calm down bud, you are wasting your brain cells and energy. Those who dream up this hope that any activity is taken as a real result.

How long before we can't take knives out when stalking? *********.

[ShootingEgg]

I bought a cheap knife for home butchery from bushwear this week. Ordered and arrived in two days. I was out, delivery driver just handed the box of bits over to my better half and that was that.. 

But then I am not going to use it for anything other than the intended purpose. 

That very deranged individual didn't have to buy a knife, he could have walked into the kitchen, picked up a number of options and gone out the front door.. 

New laws will NOT stop these crimes being committed.

[Dougy]

8 minutes ago, old man said:

Calm down bud, you are wasting your brain cells and energy. Those who dream up this hope that any activity is taken as a real result.

How long before we can't take knives out when stalking? *********.

I know i need to stop this interest in the worst ever government i have ever known, even that woman who lasted just a few weeks was better than this twerp. 

 

[clangerman]

23 minutes ago, old man said:

Officialdom never misses an opportunity to make some gains through applied difficulties wether the laws are appropriate or not. It's all about more control?

you nailed it starlin will bring in even more ways to keep us under control  

[Penelope]

Just now, clangerman said:

you nailed it starlin will bring in even more ways to keep us under control  

For once I can agree with you on that.

[nobbyathome]

When I was a youth I was regularly stopped and searched by the local police as st Mary cray was a bit of a rough area  I hated it but it never done me any harm long term police nowadays are stopped from stop and search due to wokeness and race issues I don’t understand what the general public want. After all there was only 15016 recorded knife crimes in London in 2024 roll on 2025 stats shall I guess 20000 at the end of this year ? 

[holloway]

Kitchen knives are to be licensed under new. government legislation ! security arrangements  will be inspected by local police forces to ensure they remain secure, hack saw blades and chisels to be reviewed over the next months  to ensure owners have a need for ownership .hot off the press ,

[DUNKS]

But it keeps the Wokes happy and they seem to be running the country now!

[JohnfromUK]

As in all things Parliament related - it's about VOTES.

Not safety, saving lives, preventing injuries, common sense, practicalities, making peoples lives easier - but VOTES.

There are vocal groups calling for bans on 'weapons' be they knives, firearms, and to an extent some other things that can 'be used' as weapons etc (e.g. various pepper sprays, and other 'personal protection' devices).  These groups - often including various 'known campaigners' (the same names seem to crop up in different pressure groups) are good at manipulating public opinion and tapping into the illogical responses that follow these very occasional tragic events.  The public is very easily convinced when the 'evidence' of people killed and injured is there for all to see.  What is not mentioned is that these tragic events are in fact a TINY minority of deaths and injuries compared to the overall annual total of 'premature deaths and serious injuries, and VERY often involve perpetrators who are known to the authorities and should not be 'at large'.

[Scully]

It’s the distraction of politics. 
Yvette Cooper first tried it when making a statement regarding the riots which followed the Southport stabbings. She used the riots as a distraction from having to make any statement about what her party and the government intended to do to stop or even reduce the number of stabbings which occur in an almost daily basis in this country nowadays. 
When she appeared on tv at the outset of the unrest she mentioned only how they intended to deal with those rioters, which is fair enough, but those girls in Southport weren’t mentioned once. It was a perfect distraction for her as HS.  As far as I’m aware no journalists asked her what she intended to do about knife crime. It became a racial, immigrant and civil unrest issue rather than yet more fatal stabbings. The rioters played right into her hands and gave her a fabulous get out of jail free ( for now til the dust settles a bit ) card. I don’t know who I was more angry with, the rioters or her. 
Anyhow. On we go. Starmer has announced an enquiry which is simply yet another distraction. Cooper has now announced yet more feeble and totally meaningless legislation to placate the gullible. Meanwhile, every politician in the country knows, and those of us who aren’t gullible know that if legislation was the answer there’d be no crime at all, of any kind. 
They will next be announcing that more police will protect the public and keep us safe, which of course is total b*****s; for that to happen the police would need to be there at the scene of the crime WHEN it happened. 
We need to hold this and every government to book regarding this, and not to allow the distraction of politics to distract us from letting this go. 
While law abiding people are rendered powerless by law to meet this epidemic head on, it will continue unabated, just as it does now. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Well said Scully.    

[JohnfromUK]

1 minute ago, Scully said:

They will next be announcing that more police will protect the public and keep us safe, which of course is total b*****s;

In fact our neighbouring force is making redundancies because although they had 'a little' more money, with NI changes etc, they can afford less staff (apparently)

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/gloucestershire-police-issues-redundancies-announcement-9881341

[welsh1]

On the subject of knives
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/suspect-arrested-after-two-killed-knife-attack-german-park-2025-01-22/

[Scully]

Meanwhile just as I was leaving the house , there appeared on the news of yet another stabbing in Birmingham. 15 year old. Kids eh! Little rascals.